Free Gold Period

[Admins]

You have 5 hours of real free playing time, the observer mode is starting after that.

[thesmoothcriminal]

Originally Posted by Stefan

You have 5 hours of real free playing time, the observer mode is starting after that.

Is 5 hours really enough, most other companies give players more time so that they make a significant investment (with their time) in the game and therefore will pay instead of losing that investment

[Ares]

Originally Posted by Stefan

You have 5 hours of real free playing time, the observer mode is starting after that.

if you're going to give them any free playing time, it may as well be 10 to 15 hours so new players can actually look through the variety of servers and see if they think upgrading would be worth it or not

[MiniOne]

Originally Posted by Stefan

You have 5 hours of real free playing time, the observer mode is starting after that.

When I Said free Gold Period
I meant free subscription period for new players to let them have a taste of what they'll receive.

It could help boost sells, the period doesn't even need to be long, like maybe
1-2 days for each computer.

For Stefan:
Just think about what the players think, because they are the current players and they should have a say in what happens with the game, and their ideas should be taken into account when you think about updating the game. I can clearly see that us players have alot of ideas which are just remaining ideas because you Stefan and Unimax just don't really take us seriously by the looks of things, which is irritating since we can all clearly see the game slowly degrading.

[Switch]

Originally Posted by MiniOne

For Stefan:
Just think about what the players think, because they are the current players and they should have a say in what happens with the game, and their ideas should be taken into account when you think about updating the game. I can clearly see that us players have alot of ideas which are just remaining ideas because you Stefan and Unimax just don't really take us seriously by the looks of things, which is irritating since we can all clearly see the game slowly degrading.

Current players should not have any say.
Suggestions should be wanted, but that doesn't mean that you should be able to say "Make my playerworld Gold because it's cool" and have Stefan do such.
It doesn't work that way. He develops the game how he wants, and that's what happens. Sometimes if there's a player (or a few players) that are respected by him/greatly respected by the community, he might do something small.
That's how the gaming/design business works. Deal with it.

[Matt]

Originally Posted by Stefan

You have 5 hours of real free playing time, the observer mode is starting after that.

For alot of people, it'd take atleast a full week to get into a game to decide whether it's worth their time or not. 5 hours is like a tease, and will just anger most people especially if they didn't experience much of anything interesting within the 5 hour period of game play. There's my opinion.

[DuBsTeRmAn]

Originally Posted by Stefan

You have 5 hours of real free playing time, the observer mode is starting after that.

Should be atleast 24 Hours... People have to get the game known and find out which server they like.

[pico57]

Originally Posted by DuBsTeRmAn

Should be atleast 24 Hours... People have to get the game known and find out which server they like.

that would be nice, but imagine on Zone... players are gold 24 hours... after it,
they are on observer mode...if they dont buy gold sub.

i think, most of players will not buy it; so Zone community will be more D.E.A.D. than what it is Right now.

[Darugo]

Trials don't work, look at WoW, I can just easily get a friend to invite me, get a 30 day trial and repeat over and over again.

look at Zone: People would CONSTANTLY create new accounts just to get the different classes, heads, and bodies
Also if this were to happen, do not let them go into hosted servers :/

[MiniOne]

Zone doesn't have a observer mode. They just made trials extremely crap with all the slow classes and ulgy looks.
And since you can make it so that each computer can only have 1 free gold trial period each.

[Pimmeh]

Originally Posted by Darugo

Trials don't work, look at WoW, I can just easily get a friend to invite me, get a 30 day trial and repeat over and over again.

look at Zone: People would CONSTANTLY create new accounts just to get the different classes, heads, and bodies
Also if this were to happen, do not let them go into hosted servers :/

In WoW the level limit is 20 and you cant own more then 2gold though, that is nothing. You might be able to experience the first dungeon, but it doesnt give a good image of the game.

I think Observer is a good idea, but I would honestly, for kingdoms, just limit players to the main island and the surface world, not to let them get higher then level 16 or so, and not make them eligible for X gear and up, and lock them out of most dungeons.

Easy solution. Leave them wanting for more.

[Frankie]

yeah, 5 hours isn't enough. let the players experience the game as a normal player for x amount of days this way they know what they're upgrading for. they're not going to want to pay for the game if they don't know what to expect :x

[DustyPorViva]

Well we all know Graal has never been the epitome of great business decisions. Oh well. I really wish Graal would do well.

[MiniOne]

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

Well we all know Graal has never been the epitome of great business decisions. Oh well. I really wish Graal would do well.

Actually Graal was doing fine for its first few years up till around the beginning of 08 or late 07 it started to fall, for some reason.

[DustyPorViva]

Originally Posted by MiniOne

Actually Graal was doing fine for its first few years up till around the beginning of 08 or late 07 it started to fall, for some reason.

I think it was at its peak in '01, but business-wise I never think they made very good decisions. I think Graal could have turned out way better with better business practice and decisions. For some reason they always try to be different with their trial modes. Ghost mode nor Observer were ever very... appealing.