Low playercount - Page 7

zephirot · #1 12-10-2008, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Crono

You're the one making retarded predictions, not me mate.

Please explain how it is "retarded".

Crono · #2 12-07-2008, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by zephirot

Graal will most likely be definitely dead in 2 years or so.

I don't think so.

Elizabeth · #3 12-10-2008, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by zephirot

Graal will most likely be definitely dead in 2 years or so.

graal will most definitely not be dead in two years or so.
if graphs and charts are showing that it regains players when school's out, and lost them when school's back, then it's just the natural process of graal.

not to mention that stefan and unixmad will be releasing new features and systems within those two years- which will also bring up playercount.

xXziroXx · #4 12-10-2008, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Elizabeth

not to mention that stefan and unixmad will be releasing new features and systems within those two years- which will also bring up playercount.

There's also a few serious servers that have come pretty far in development as of late, I don't think any of them will fail a Classic inspection when they're ready for it.

xAzerothx · #5 12-10-2008, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by xXziroXx

There's also a few serious servers that have come pretty far in development as of late, I don't think any of them will fail a Classic inspection when they're ready for it.

People say this all the time. Those servers you're talking about probably will never be finished.

xXziroXx · #6 12-10-2008, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by xAzerothx

People say this all the time. Those servers you're talking about probably will never be finished.

I'm fairly confident in at least 3 of them.

Elizabeth · #7 12-11-2008, 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by xXziroXx

There's also a few serious servers that have come pretty far in development as of late, I don't think any of them will fail a Classic inspection when they're ready for it.

exactly.

the playercount will go down, and the playercount will go up. it's natural.

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Originally Posted by zephirot

I'm laughing so ****ing hard right now, you have to be kidding me. I hear the 'We will release new content soon!' every year or so,, it's not like I except something new anytime soon.

people like you are the reason that they take a long time on projects.

xAzerothx · #8 12-11-2008, 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Elizabeth

people like you are the reason that they take a long time on projects.

Why would he stop production on new server content? He's not doing anything. They're just not putting out.

RevolutionJS · #9 12-10-2008, 10:19 PM

I think its very hard to get NEW players
Evryone who see´s this game is like BLUGH What an awwfull game.
In my class they laught at me because I play graal.(Not that I mind)
I think only graal 3D can save.
Now there arnt coming much NEW players and more players will quit.
2D is not good anymore for new players.

xXziroXx · #10 12-10-2008, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by RevolutionJS

I think its very hard to get NEW players
Evryone who see´s this game is like BLUGH What an awwfull game.
In my class they laught at me because I play graal.(Not that I mind)
I think only graal 3D can save.
Now there arnt coming much NEW players and more players will quit.
2D is not good anymore for new players.

No, the problem is that server managers/owners aren't advertising their own server outside of Graal. True, it affects Graal as well, but as a manager/owner it's in your best interest to attract more players to your game, or otherwise all the hard work and time (not to mention money) would have been put to waste.

RevolutionJS · #11 12-10-2008, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by xXziroXx

No, the problem is that server managers/owners aren't advertising their own server outside of Graal. True, it affects Graal as well, but as a manager/owner it's in your best interest to attract more players to your game, or otherwise all the hard work and time (not to mention money) would have been put to waste.

Ye I agree with that.
But I want to get players from my school playing graal to , I really have no Idea how to do it, If I show them they laugh me out xD.

xXziroXx · #12 12-10-2008, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by RevolutionJS

Ye I agree with that.
But I want to get players from my school playing graal to , I really have no Idea how to do it, If I show them they laugh me out xD.

Can always make a cool video containing the things you like most of your favorite servers and put it on YouTube to show your friends.

RevolutionJS · #13 12-10-2008, 10:41 PM

I will find A nerdie no lifer on my school .

zephirot · #14 12-11-2008, 02:59 AM

Wow.
Are you like 6 or something?
But seriously stop derailing the thread, we are having a serious chat here.

Elizabeth · #15 12-11-2008, 03:19 AM

all you're diong is going "YEAH UHM GRAALS GOING TO DIE".

srs bsnz

DustyPorViva · #16 12-11-2008, 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Elizabeth

all you're diong is going "YEAH UHM GRAALS GOING TO DIE".

srs bsnz

You do realize what the thread was originally titled before Stefan thought this thread was going to single-handedly destroy Graal, right?

Elizabeth · #17 12-11-2008, 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

You do realize what the thread was originally titled before Stefan thought this thread was going to single-handedly destroy Graal, right?

"is graal dying?

zephirot · #18 12-11-2008, 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Elizabeth

all you're diong is going "YEAH UHM GRAALS GOING TO DIE".

srs bsnz

What's the thread about again?
Stop making fun out of yourself, it's getting ridiculous.

DrakilorP2P · #19 12-11-2008, 03:16 PM

Graal is a niche product.

Rufus · #20 12-11-2008, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DrakilorP2P

Graal is a niche product.

No, it's not.

DrakilorP2P · #21 12-12-2008, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Rufus

No, it's not.

It will be if we continue to scare away new folks.

Crimson2005 · #22 12-12-2008, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DrakilorP2P

It will be if we continue to scare away new folks.

Do you even know what a niche market is? Something tells me you don't o.o

DrakilorP2P · #23 12-12-2008, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Crimson2005

Do you even know what a niche market is? Something tells me you don't o.o

Of course I do. It's a market with only a handful of players.

xAzerothx · #24 12-12-2008, 11:42 PM

Graal's not going to die.

The end.

Rufus · #25 12-13-2008, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by xAzerothx

Graal's not going to die.

The end.

I am pretty sure that the opening post is discussing how Graal is under a decline of players, which it is, and it is still continuing to drop. Obviously such things concern the people who play on servers that are actually used to having a decent playercount, and saying as the issues that are being discussed have not really been addressed, it is sadly far from "the end"

Felix_Xenophobe · #26 12-14-2008, 07:42 PM

xAzerothx · #27 12-15-2008, 01:35 AM

Damn, Crono's got 4 of those green reputation thingys.

Darklux · #28 12-15-2008, 08:14 PM

This thread has just lost it's sense.
Can someone lead me to posts of "fulltime" CJ employes which should take part in this discussion, as they and obviously their decisions are part of the problem?

I can't notice any sign of CJ trying to save it's own game.

If you are not willing to work on this game, open source an older version without torque so dedicated people can work on it and offer hosting to make money.

I just can't see any official development really affecting the playercount - long promised features, devtools or whatever?
It's as if they are trying to make or keep the game as inattractive as possible.

CJ - if you try to hand over the development to your players (as they are obviously doing, as nearly all content, if it's a gold or a classic playerworld is contributed by players) do it - otherwise - for what are we ment to pay? What is your part in this to justify regular payments? Hosting??? Hosting prices are falling like stones to the ground, while subscription costs keep the same)

Yocas · #29 12-17-2008, 02:05 AM

The fact that you now have to pay monthly and can't buy a life time subscription really ruined Graal. Good thing this game is worth paying for.

sike

Good job Graal Team.

Angelu · #30 12-17-2008, 03:34 AM

Man i wish i had a Game where over 100 People pay for nothing XD
I would ROFL the whole day XD
Sorry Guys but its a little bit stupid to pay if you know you get nothing for the Money...

Elizabeth · #31 12-17-2008, 02:03 PM

life subsciption for classic, tyvm

zephirot · #32 12-17-2008, 06:43 PM

So what, you can't prove it will still be alive in 2 year.
I can use your own argument against yourself.
Anyway I'm tired of this argument, how about we stop.

Codein · #33 12-17-2008, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by zephirot

So what, you can't prove it will still be alive in 2 year.
I can use your own argument against yourself.
Anyway I'm tired of this argument, how about we stop.

You made the claim Graal wouldn't be around in 2 years time, so you have find the evidence to support it. Without evidence, you're claim fails.

It'd be a completely different story if Crono made the initial claim that Graal won't be dead in 2 years.

So, with that said...

FAILasdf

zephirot · #34 12-17-2008, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Codein

You made the claim Graal wouldn't be around in 2 years time, so you have find the evidence to support it. Without evidence, you're claim fails.

It'd be a completely different story if Crono made the initial claim that Graal won't be dead in 2 years.

So, with that said...

FAILasdf

Please, tell me how it would be a different story.
Also, learn to spell your.

Crono · #35 12-17-2008, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by zephirot

Please, tell me how it would be a different story.
Also, learn to spell your.

Because then the burden of proof would be on me.

Elizabeth · #36 12-17-2008, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Crono

Because then the burden of proof would be on me.

the burden of proof is on you

zephirot · #37 12-17-2008, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Crono

Because then the burden of proof would be on me.

It's on both of us.

Codein · #38 12-17-2008, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by zephirot

Please, tell me how it would be a different story.
Also, learn to spell your.

It'd be a different story because if he made the claim, the burden of proof would be on him. You made the claim, so you need the evidence to back it up. That's just the way it goes.

For example, if I said "There's life on Jupiter", I'd need to evidence for my statement to hold up. You made a statement and you should have produced evidence for it.

Also, I can spell 'your' quite perfectly. Haven't you made a typo in your entire life? I guess not

Take your trolling away from these forums :P

Elizabeth · #39 12-17-2008, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Codein

Take your trolling away from these forums :P

QFT, stop trolling.

zephirot · #40 12-18-2008, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by codein

it'd be a different story because if he made the claim, the burden of proof would be on him. You made the claim, so you need the evidence to back it up. That's just the way it goes.

For example, if i said "there's life on jupiter", i'd need to evidence for my statement to hold up. You made a statement and you should have produced evidence for it.

Also, i can spell 'your' quite perfectly. Haven't you made a typo in your entire life? I guess not

take your trolling away from these forums

nnnnnaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwww