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Old 06-24-2008, 06:32 PM
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If Graal was in a better state, with servers that were high in quality, gameplay, users, then I'd agree with you. Paying to build content to save the game however, is unfair and I don't blame people for not trying. Development was always seen as a hobby, a fun thing to do, but going out of your way and PAYING for it is just stupid.
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Old 06-24-2008, 08:01 PM
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Not all of us American's are ignorant to what you are saying. Personally, I wish California was its own country because it essentially is in the sense of culture, education and general political/global/social views.

Can you believe that some Americans (of course 90yapercent of these guys come from the more middle states, no offense to you guys) actually believe global warming is a myth?
The problem is they just don't know the facts; and of course, its very hard to get the facts.

I've watched an Inconvenient Truth, and its pretty scary, but I think a lot of that is exaggerated. I doubt anything serious, besides the rise of gas prices and everything else, will happen even during our lifetimes (meaning something that causes a mass catastrophe such as everyone dying).
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You are paying for the use of a server. Good servers cost up to $130 a month (dedicated that is), Graal is just cheap compared to this because there are several playerworlds running on one server.
You are also paying for the use of Stefan's GServer software.

Paying to develop isnt actually the unfair thing about Graal. The unfair stuff is that you dont get any money when being successful.
I wouldn't like being paid to develop (of course it'd be nice), and I know CJ can't really afford that either.

What I think I like better, and of course is more practical for Cyberjoueres, would be if they rewarded gelats, which could be used for subscriptions.
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Old 06-24-2008, 08:38 PM
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Old 06-24-2008, 09:19 PM
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Lets all talk about how global warming is destroying the world while we are on forums burning electricity.

By the way can we please get back on topic?

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Old 06-24-2008, 10:14 PM
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Stefan PMed me the other day and say "hahaha i knew you would upgrade" ...
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Old 06-24-2008, 10:35 PM
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Stefan PMed me the other day and say "hahaha i knew you would upgrade" ...
It's because he loves you and doesn't want to see you go.
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Old 06-24-2008, 10:16 PM
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while youre at it, you should reupgrade my account
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Old 06-24-2008, 10:46 PM
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while youre at it, you should reupgrade my account
Are you kidding me? I can't afford another $50

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It's because he loves you and doesn't want to see you go.
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Old 06-24-2008, 10:48 PM
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Old 06-24-2008, 11:36 PM
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I said "thanks for upgrading" x-x

We have announced the price changes a few weeks ago. The server price was previously 99 euro a year for european people and 99 $ a year for american people. To make it more fair we now make the same price for everyone, which means 79 euro for european people and the same money converted to USD for american people (depends on the current conversion rate). So it's cheaper for european people and more expensive for american people.
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Old 06-24-2008, 09:05 AM
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Okay i am furious, i was just browsing through the subscriptions because i was planning on buying a server then i realize that 6 months for a server is $76.04. That is insane it was 60 for 6 months. Graal has become way too greedy! That is about 12 dollars a month, yes i know i seem to be rambling on about 16 dollars difference but what do i gain with that 16 extra dollars?
If you think about it, what can you get with an extra $16? A couple meals at McDonalds?
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They changed to Euro cause your American dollar sucks arse! CJ was losing money because of this. Now CJ gets the money they should have originally gotten while you Americans suffer because of your **** dollar.

Just to make sure, YOUR AMERICAN DOLLAR IS ****HOUSE. DEAL WITH IT. The ignorance of some of you fools....
You act like it's our fault we have idiots running the country.
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Old 06-24-2008, 10:34 AM
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You act like it's our fault we have idiots running the country.
I blame Florida!
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Old 06-24-2008, 02:48 PM
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Old 06-24-2008, 11:00 AM
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If you think about it, what can you get with an extra $16? A couple meals at McDonalds?

You act like it's our fault we have idiots running the country.
It actually is. Well, not you persé, but your parents (or the majority of the US citizens) voted for the current president, and the current senate I believe.
The European economy is doing way better then the economy of the US, and Cyberjoueurs is still a european company. They decided to switch payments to their currency, and what on earth is wrong with that? I was bothered by the fact that it was in Dollars, because before the Euro kicked in, I had to pay more then 60€ for 6 months of server.

And Mike (Princeofkenshin, your name is Mike, no?), there is still something called inflation. Graal actually ignored that for several years, and now it kicks in?

Think about economics before you start complaining at Cyberjoueurs.
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