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Rufus · #1 06-03-2008, 12:37 AM

Unholy Nation --

Pikachu Shock NPC
Pokeball Catching Players
Mario Fire Plant NPC
Louigi Fire Plant NPC
Pac Man Transform
Gani Emote Sounds
° Kyle from South Park (shift + e)
° Lemmings (shift + y)
° Darth Vader from Star Wars (shift + u)
Souljaboy NPC
Various Dance NPCs (Including sounds)

Now I'm not being a prude, but you guys are looking too into that one hammer NPC and seem to be ignoring the rest.

Stephen · #2 06-03-2008, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Rufus

Unholy Nation --

Pikachu Shock NPC
Pokeball Catching Players
Mario Fire Plant NPC
Louigi Fire Plant NPC
Pac Man Transform
Gani Emote Sounds
° Kyle from South Park (shift + e)
° Lemmings (shift + y)
° Darth Vader from Star Wars (shift + u)
Souljaboy NPC
Various Dance NPCs (Including sounds)

Now I'm not being a prude, but you guys are looking too into that one hammer NPC and seem to be ignoring the rest.

What good could possibly come of this conversation?

Rufus · #3 06-03-2008, 12:43 AM

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What good could possibly come of this conversation?

They could be removed or modified, and an added bonus would be that maybe for once you would shut the **** up. I am sick to death of your posts now.

Stephen · #4 06-03-2008, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Rufus

They could be removed or modified, and an added bonus would be that maybe for once you would shut the **** up. I am sick to death of your posts now.

I'm afraid I don't post to amuse you. If you have a problem with them you may have to deal with it on your own.

Tigairius · #5 06-03-2008, 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Rufus

Unholy Nation --

Pikachu Shock NPC
Pokeball Catching Players
Mario Fire Plant NPC
Louigi Fire Plant NPC
Pac Man Transform
Gani Emote Sounds
° Kyle from South Park (shift + e)
° Lemmings (shift + y)
° Darth Vader from Star Wars (shift + u)
Souljaboy NPC
Various Dance NPCs (Including sounds)

Now I'm not being a prude, but you guys are looking too into that one hammer NPC and seem to be ignoring the rest.

Don't forget the pokemon icons/guild names on Zodiac, the spiderman graal head, and the bat mobile on Era.

Nothing is original, and it's difficult to come up with your own original ideas because it requires people to "think outside of the box." The way the human brain functions, it recalls situations that it has previously experienced and it rearranges them, and that's how ideas are generated. Originality is overrated in my opinion, functionality and how well you can capture the audience is key, originally or not. I agree that people should use their head a bit more and stop copying and pasting in to Graal, but that's more of stealing than being unoriginal.

Rufus · #6 06-03-2008, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Tigairius

bat mobile on Era.

I'd say that was of more an easter egg than rip off.

Tigairius · #7 06-03-2008, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Rufus

I'd say that was of more an easter egg than rip off.

I could have swore I saw the Batman icon on the back of it. That's not a rip off? Okay.

Galdor · #8 06-03-2008, 01:06 AM

you cant copyright a weapon you hopeless... the design maybe but yea...
"hey dude I have copyright on swords you cant do swords, wtf your sword even do the same thing! it cuts ppl."

DustyPorViva · #9 06-03-2008, 01:42 AM

A proper easter egg of the Batmobile would be... say, a Catmobile, with a cat icon.

As for why, because when you see something called a Catmobile, you'll almost always think, HA! Batmobile. It's so obvious it's funny. There has to be an underlying message, pun, or humor behind an easter egg to give it reason rather than simply wanting to have something from another game.

Rufus · #10 06-03-2008, 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

A proper easter egg of the Batmobile would be... say, a Catmobile, with a cat icon.

As for why, because when you see something called a Catmobile, you'll almost always think, HA! Batmobile. It's so obvious it's funny. There has to be an underlying message, pun, or humor behind an easter egg to give it reason rather than simply wanting to have something from another game.

Yeah I get what you mean actually. I just don't associate the Batmobile personally with Batman alone, because it's a sold out concept; they've had it in as easter eggs for those cars people collect, trains, tv shows, etc. There's a big list of that stuff on Wikipedia under Batmobile, "The Batmobile in popular culture".

I guess a good example of an easter egg in the gaming sense would be Konidias' *cough* Mario / Luigi / Wario / Waluigi outfits. Everyone has seen the outfits, they are not identical to the originals, but you can still see what they are supposed to represent. The hats are named "Cap of Stars (Red/Green/Yellow/Purple)" and the item descriptions are suggestive, "A red sturdy cap with a star emblem on the front; it makes you feel like jumping." etc. Another example of an easter egg on 2k1 is the description for the halo hat, "A floating golden ring discarded long ago by an angel.. just keep it away from fast moving hedgehogs." ..you get the point

DustyPorViva · #11 06-03-2008, 02:01 AM

Ya, I always loved those easter egg outfits on BI.

I can't really word what makes an easter egg different than just stealing it, but I'll stick to what I said before: you have to have some sort of underlying meaning to it, rather than just having it there because you want Mario on your server. Pay homage to the games, don't steal from them.

Too many easter eggs though can overpower original content, even if well-intentioned. If everyone is running around looking like Mario and Link, instead of wearing all the other original content, then you've got a problem.

I think the problem with the Gravity Hammer is that, as far as I know(admittedly, I don't play Zone so really don't know anything about the hammer), it's treated like every other weapon. There's no referencing to Halo 3 at all, there's no background story for it that honors Halo, and it's not really a novelty item. It looks the same, and more importantly, it's NAMED the same, there is no play on the name at all, which is a huge part of an easter egg. What would make the Gravity Hammer an easter egg item, rather than a stolen idea, would be to rename it to something like... Graviton Hammer, and give it a little story referencing Halo 3(like Rufus posted about the Mario hats, giving little details about who wears them[red meaning wanting to jump]).