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View Poll Results: Should Tigairius be a Administrator?
Tigairius should be Admin 40 76.92%
I Disagree... because (state below) 12 23.08%
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Old 11-28-2007, 11:41 PM
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Wow you are retarded, ok lets start.

Everyone would like a democrisy on all online games, however that would only lead to total disaster...

Just because a game is dependant on players, does not mean it should bend over backwards for each individual, you seriously don't know what needs to be done.

If all requests were answered, i assure you, Graal wouldn't be here.
No one is saying they are of higher priority, the issue of attracting new players is a delicate one, and cannot be tackled as swiftly as creating holiday items.

People who quit because they cannot get items immediately shouldn't be playing imo. I started with nothing, and i'm not an oldbie, haven't played for longer than 3+/- years, but i have fairly decent items, without any dodgey business.

Lets not bring the great Maloria into this, it had it's own problems, which are actually being rectified now.

You'll suck because you haven't learned 2play...

I can assure you everyone is NOT walking around with RoW's. The other items maybie, because they were massed released or are craftable (have been for a long time), so you shouldn't be putting RoW in the same category as those common items...

GK is trying to become more newb friendly, but it is not completely impossible for a newb to become slightly better off, they simply need a little bit of inicietive and will power to get themselves out of poverty. Hell, or you need to do is ask a nice person in HH to give you a flamesword, get some weak armor, kill bomy's, get piety, pray to gov, bless ur wep, kill rexe's - sorted.

"Rich players take advantage of the fact that they arent obtainable anymore and sell them for "100 diamonds"
100 diamonds...for one item which isnt even ubar powerfull..." The cherry on the top, wow. Ok firstly, no one 'takes advantage', values are decided by numerous factors, usually supply n demand, crafting cost (if it can be crafted), value of crafting input items (if it can be crafted), rarity, collectable value and usefulness of item. Lets use RoS for example, it's worth 100diamonds - not overpriced. RoS is spawned quite rarely in shops for a reasonable amount of platinum coins. It's very useful to an aspiring young warrior or someone who just wants reasonably balanced stats. It's not incredibly rare and considered quite common. I think it's safe to say that supply meets demand quite well, one hoping to buy a RoS can hope to find one within minutes - a week (at max). It's not collectable or craftable. After considering these factors and also taking individual player limits/budgets into consideration, the price of 100dias seems very reasonable and i think i've only heard several people complain about 100diamond items. Btw, if you're talking about +12 armor items, it's because the enchanting costs are 60diamonds atleast, so the end value depends on the original item value/usefulness.



Diamonds are not the problem, it's platinum coins that are. Look at plat values of certain rares in stores, it's ludicrous actually. The weight of 20-200k plat is significantly higher than it's diamond equivilent ( 40 - 400 diamonds ) so diamonds are favoured by new players and old.

If there was a better coin system, and perhaps more valuable coins as suggested many times, we would see the economy look a little more stable.
People dont quit because they cannot get an item immediatly.They quit because they are limited to evil bomy helmet(Which isnt that bad in some cases),gold plate armor(this armor slows you down like HELL),Flaming sword(Which is not favored by many), and spiked shield.

And about RoW, if you think I am talking about EVERY player then you yourself are not making sense.I am not complaining about RoW because I dont have one.Infact, I have good items believe it or not.However, such items would not be obtainable if I started only recently.The problem is that stuff is impossible to get.
The 100 Dia's part I mentioned, you took way too litteral.
And I am not complaining about +12 armor or RoS being 100 dias.
However, I am complaining that certain weapons are 100 dias.
Such examples are Inferno Dagger and (In the past and soon futur) Ice Dagger.
It is true those items are good for killing people who have +12 armor since they can strike through defences, but they are not so good that you need to save up for such a long period of time
Such items should be obtainable by any player if they work for it rather then being older.I am not saying to just hand them out, but make them actually obtainable by making them a rare drop or making them craftable with the materials are hard to get.
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Old 11-29-2007, 12:14 AM
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Please, I am all for debating and arguing, but lets please keep it on subject.


We need a new admin who cares about our server and hell, the servers already on it death bed, Give Tig a chance to improve it! If you dont like his work or his attitude then just fire him if you don't like it! But give him and us a chance to make our server worth the 24$ a year!
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Old 11-29-2007, 12:17 AM
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Please, I am all for debating and arguing, but lets please keep it on subject.


We need a new admin who cares about our server and hell, the servers already on it death bed, Give Tig a chance to improve it! If you dont like his work or his attitude then just fire him if you don't like it! But give him and us a chance to make our server worth the 24$ a year!
Durrr 49$ you mean?
Most people take the triple pack =P
I have a feeling though that you guys as the staff will be payed if the fantasy comes true.
The fantasy were we get advirtising,playercount skyrockets,Graal owns runescape.

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I would like to apologize if I was being too harsh in my recent posts
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Old 11-29-2007, 01:13 AM
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Give Tig a shot...whats to lose. GK hit rock bottom but that rock is nearly cracked.
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Old 11-29-2007, 01:20 AM
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Googi, Tig won't save this server? What exactly is save? Bring players back? Do you really think players want to join the Graal Kingdoms community as it is now? Maybe Tig has plans. There is no HARM AT ALL in giving Tig a chance to try and add content to Graal Kingdoms. I really don't see why not. He's just going to try and make Graal Kingdoms a more enjoyable experience for you and everybody else.
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There is the opinion of the server in a nutshell. Please do it.
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Old 11-29-2007, 02:02 AM
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I think the biggest problem the GK administration has with my presence is my history. People forget to remember that the definition of history is the aggregate of past events. It's the past. There is nothing I can do to change the way I have acted in the past to get myself banned, etc. I'd like to bring an example to hand though: Hell Raven (sorry buddy <3). Hell Raven had been known for years as a notorious hacker, who spent a lot of time messing up things like Doomsday, by jailing everyone on the server, and on many other servers as well. He was banned for hacking too. He assisted in re-making a Graal1.39 server by coding, and was highly involved in some of those activities. He changed, he changed his mind, and his attitude and now he is a global staff member.
As I have stated several times I am sorry for the past, but bringing it up doesn't change the future of GK, does it? I am sided with the people who want me to be an administrator, but I am not rooting for any side. Either way, I consider this community my family and I consider this server my home, and I don't want to see it fall down like this without one last attempt by my hand.

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And I will be doing work on debug, anyways, I guess some people feel that with administration title it enables more control over the projects and these people trust my control.
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Old 11-29-2007, 02:40 AM
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*just have to say first off that I didn't read any of the first three pages of this thread...i dont have the time to read it right now...*

"Proposition to save Graal Kingdoms" ...
really I have to laugh every time I catch wind of any thought of reviving or saving GK... its so doomed... so terribly doomed...
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Old 11-29-2007, 02:46 AM
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GK is capable of being saved, but would require extensive work. :s
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Old 11-29-2007, 02:46 AM
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Old 11-29-2007, 05:24 AM
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Tig will never be an admin of gk... because gk staff doesn't trust people from USA.. it's just a fact I've noticed in the past 5 years.
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Old 11-29-2007, 05:32 AM
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If we keep pushing and show that we have support and are serious I think they will seriously consider it, but if we just sit here and roll over then yeah, nothing will happen.
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Old 11-29-2007, 06:41 AM
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It's been proven before that new content only lasts so long.
The same goes for friendly/unfriendly faces. Not pointing at anyone really, I know alot of people feel Bjorn isnt on peoples good side as it is.

Fact is, you need more then just a server manager to be active. Events team and someone to fix bugs and update levels are needed as well. Not to mention not as critical and far more likely to succede at being restored then attempting to replace Bjorn.

There are hundreds of actually decent/semi decent suggestions that never even got an attempt to be done to GK. Some of them should have been too. It really isnt a wonder why GK is falling apart when you think of just those points alone.

Sorry but I just cannot agree with replacing staff when we should be restoring all of their activity ratings.
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Old 11-29-2007, 07:15 AM
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It's been proven before that new content only lasts so long.
It's been proven that anything new is only new for so long. The idea is to hire a server manager who adds/updates things regularly. What I mean is somone who doesn't wait for some sort of holiday to upload items with fancy new graphics, without even really developing the server. Real gameplay changes and updates. New functions, and the repair of disabled/never finished functions.


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The same goes for friendly/unfriendly faces. Not pointing at anyone really, I know alot of people feel Bjorn isnt on peoples good side as it is.
Which is relevant, how?

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Fact is, you need more then just a server manager to be active. Events team and someone to fix bugs and update levels are needed as well.
...and Tig is capabable of all of this...which is why Tig was nominated to replace Bjorn...?

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Not to mention not as critical and far more likely to succede at being restored then attempting to replace Bjorn.
Did this sway your vote?

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There are hundreds of actually decent/semi decent suggestions that never even got an attempt to be done to GK. Some of them should have been too. It really isnt a wonder why GK is falling apart when you think of just those points alone.
...which is why Tig was nominated to replace Bjorn...?

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Sorry but I just cannot agree with replacing staff when we should be restoring all of their activity ratings.
What...?!
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Old 11-29-2007, 07:51 AM
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...which is why Tig was nominated to replace Bjorn...?
Nobody is talking about having anybody replace Bjorn.
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Old 11-29-2007, 12:01 PM
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Nobody is talking about having anybody replace Bjorn.
Obviously someone is.

And I do agree something has to happend.
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