A Proposition to save Graal Kingdoms

[ViperZakuto]

I may not agree with a lot of things tig does or says... but I think he should be administrator. He has the knowlege, skill, and he would look at situations from all angles and make the best decision possible. Even if he does bad updates what can he really hurt? Maybe once they release G3d and it dies in it's short lived lifespan... The current administrators wll say... damn we made a mistake.

My only question is for stefan. Why would you abandon a project that you dedicated 9 years of your life to bring to life, and has so much unexplored potential.

[TSAdmin]

I know I'm not a consistent GK player, but I've seen what Tig's capable of from working with him here and there, and to be honest, he's the 'injection in the arm' GK is obviously in desperate need of.

[Slade0Hiro]

ok honest to god the game needs new updates.. googi your saying about avetising and trying to get new people to play but its not going to happen with the content we have.. how is the advertisement done?
(go GK gold you can sit in the traid center with everyone else or better yet go to those big storehouses we have called kingdoms!)

the game has too little in it to hook people and once you get to llevel 20 you can kill every monster on the map and get little exp leaving you to haveto do maps what means either you need money so you
(in HH getting a ton of flaming swords and blessing them)(in HH getting Dias and the maps(which are rare)) so after that it gets very repetative.

there needs to be more content that makes the game fun someone posted about a flagship for kingdoms, that would be good and seeing as a trial needs to be a gold member to get to the kingdom or ride boats thats something for them to want to pay for and maybe some other ships could be made. Draxx has a fishing system that would make fishing more then trying to catch the multicoloured fish he showed me it a while ago and he sayed hes told t to the staff as well as other ideas and nothing has happened. also a ton of the spells i learned dont work what can be anoyying especially if a new player comes and buys it becouse plat is hard when you first start.

alchemy was a dissapointment with the gfx just bad recolours we need effort put in aswell te gfx has to be roundabout the same not a solverworria helm looking good while a full helm of might from alchemy looking like it was made in 5 secs.... so those gfx could be improved. and as far as i can see bjorn of stefan dont play much probably becouse when they try to the are bugged half to death. but still they dont really play so they dont know what working or not. anyway

Tig for admin!!!

[Sheen_the_mage]

TIG FOR ADMIN!
The current admin technicly quit.
He is so inactive, I dont even know who it is.
And since Tig has the traits of an admin and has a love for gk, he qualifyes!

A small question for being admin:
What do you think of the hard start begginers have?
They dont have access to any decent items because most of them are from events.
This is a big turn off because any new players will fail at gk because all they can get is crappy gold plate armor and other n00bish things.
More items needs to be obtainable without events.
Especially stuff to increase speed and decrease hunger.
Hunger and Speed are very big issues to new players.
Not to mention the fact they dont know were or how to start.

[Slade0Hiro]

the way it works for new players is fine they can make armor and weapons and work for it being a noob is the funnest part honestly lol

decent items are there though its rare but you can find silver mail of berwean in the HH its a silver plate mail but it doesnt slow you down that much.. and its not a turn off having to make you items or find them its better then waiting with an inventory full of dias for someone to come on. but yeah more craftable items would be nice for new people like using cloth for making leather.
speed items wouldent do well as speed is ok when you have two rots and an ammy of speed and ogmas orc helm and your running around faster then anyone when you dont have it on it seems really slow. go on another server then come back on after 15 mins and you seem to go faster then you were before lol the speed isnt a big issue with people it never was for me or nubs i talk to.

The food is a bit of a problem if ya dont know but all you need is during the tutoral bit or w.e is something saying that the shell bomys aty the beach are a great source of food which they are when you kill one you have a chance of getting (food+100 food) and also saying about farming potatoes to make steak making the 1 food into 3 steaks.

[Ravenblade1979]

Current Admins: Stefan - Manager
Bjorn - Playerworld (I think)
Sam - EM Admin

Tigs pretty passionate about saving GK. I say give him a shot. You have nothing to lose. GK already hit rock bottom and frankly that rock is about to give way.

[Reborn_Soul]

dont really like him as a person but if it means some thing will be done sure i'll vote

[Darklux]

Wow quests are being added => Nothing is done about real problems?

Economy needs fixing, people needs things to do, and one quest which entertains for 1-2 hours is a drip on a hot stone.

[Sam]

...because I don't see how he will "save" GK (I don't think it needs to be saved). Why is his server Ol' West still dead? The manager of the Gold Server is Stefan and Unixmad. Björn can give them his opinion about new staff, but at last it's on Stefan to hire Admins.

[Tigairius]

Originally Posted by Sam

Why is his server Ol' West still dead?

Ol' West is not dead, Sam. It's under construction.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Sam

Why is his server Ol' West still dead?

Was it ever alive?

[ViperZakuto]

Originally Posted by Sam

The manager of the Gold Server is Stefan and Unixmad.

This is @ Tig. I thought you said unixmad has nothing to do with gk?

Originally Posted by dNeonb

You can think what I want and build up your own castle of idealism, I don't mind. But I do mind if it starts to denigrate other people, in this case me. This only shows what you try to get your opinion on everyone you pull off private chats and continue them on here by posting the history.
I have the ability to Stefan, but I don't do. Reason is what I posted on here and what I told you on pm and I'm not going to put it here.


You only talk about items nothing else. There is nothing big about items, sorry. Items do not help the server. Old ones could be used again new levels, quests, towns and things to do are missing.

Why do countless bugs go unfixed? Do you not have the rights to fix these bugs? I posted the stealing bug like 2 years ago... and it still isn't fixed. You do/or did have add rights on debug. When Draxx needed stuff for Forest, Stefan said we could have them, and told him to ask you to give him the rights to the folders... you said no. He had to go back to stefan to get these rights... Now why would you not give draxx stuff for his kingdom that other kingdoms already had?

[FenixTheBanished]

You only talk about items nothing else. There is nothing big about items, sorry. Items do not help the server. Old ones could be used again new levels, quests, towns and things to do are missing.

Yeah I agree.

Where are they?

Oh wait, you're not making them... I forgot. Why do you have a obstruction against Tig doing it?

[dNeonb]

Originally Posted by FenixTheBanished

Where are they?

Nowhere, because all submitted stuff is basically items and not that. But yea, I'm working on one. I asked Sky to days ago to help with the levels and he can confirm that most of the basicstuff is already done so it will be available for christmas.


About what, I told you that I don't come up with the other things I told you during our pm conversation on GK. So stick with what I said on here and keep in mind what I told you on GK.

[Sheen_the_mage]

dNeonb
Your like a king.
However, your a king who sits on a throne all day sleeping while an army is attacking your country.
You sit on your stupid "rank" saying you are important but you are literally all talk and no action for anything that can get more players.
Most of the server kind of wants to replace you anyways so you will kind of be forced out eventually.
Besides.
You may have been deserving of admin back then, but right now, not many people really like you anymore.
More than 3/4 of the votes are against you.
I think I proved my point.
Either you change or quit and give up your rank to someone more deserving such as Tig,or Googi, and maybe even Raven since he is one of very few people who are commited.
Raven made a whole island by himself without help or support.

[dNeonb]

Originally Posted by Sheen_the_mage

More than 3/4 of the votes are against you.

There are no votes against me, because this thread is not against or for me in the first place.
In the secound place this thread and all polls on forums are mainly only used by people who actually use the forum so maybe just 1/4 of the GK players. - Thanks

[Tigairius]

Well, I think it is really unfair to judge Björn because he does do work. He is the one who struggled hour-by-hour adding the amulet image to the ganis, that would have been an annoying job. Now, that's not a very hard job, but it is very tedious and annoying. Björn has been around with us too, guys. I don't think we really need to be arguing with him, but rather sticking to the subject at hand.

[Sheen_the_mage]

LOLWUT?
This is starting to turn into a debate.
Since it is a debate, I think it is safe to say we should all share our opinions.
GK needs a democrisy for the direction the server is heading.
The sole core of Graal and games itself is the players.
Do what pleases the PLAYERS and not just yourself or one person.
Think of doing stuff in favor for many.
A complaint I have is small gimmicks get days worked on but what actually pleases the players themselfs are ignored.
The last updates I saw were the amulets being showable and the halloween items.
Sure, they are good pluses, but why is it that they get higher priority, then lets say, making GK friendlier for newer players?
Most people quit gk as soon as they get on because you cant get any items anymore.
It turned into another retarded Maloria.
If you arent an oldbie, you will suck even if you are the most skilled person on the server.
Newer players have no chance.
Everyone is walking around with RoW's,Green Cloaks,Ice Shields,Speed Amulets,Miscltoe amulets, and cowboy hats.
New players can get what?
Nothing.Just **** that will slow them down and barely offer any protection.
They also have nothing to do because they cannot fight off the simplest enemeys or they cannot afford anything.
Rich players take advantage of the fact that they arent obtainable anymore and sell them for "100 diamonds"
100 diamonds...for one item which isnt even ubar powerfull...
WTF!?!?

Try not to take me offensively.This is a debate.
If so you get pissed off I shall only say one quote:
"Well excuuuse me Princess to being a critic."

[dNeonb]

Looking at all the recent changes affecting new players a lot of things changed and are more easy for them. In my opinion, they have lots of more things they are able to do and go on GK.

About the diamonds, I say it is a problem but it's community made. If everyone would say diamonds go for 100 plant and veryone would do it we are getting somewhere. The more and more expensive diamonds get the more worse the econnomy is going to be.

[MajinDragon]

Originally Posted by Sheen_the_mage

LOLWUT?
This is starting to turn into a debate.
Since it is a debate, I think it is safe to say we should all share our opinions.
GK needs a democrisy for the direction the server is heading.
The sole core of Graal and games itself is the players.
Do what pleases the PLAYERS and not just yourself or one person.
Think of doing stuff in favor for many.
A complaint I have is small gimmicks get days worked on but what actually pleases the players themselfs are ignored.
The last updates I saw were the amulets being showable and the halloween items.
Sure, they are good pluses, but why is it that they get higher priority, then lets say, making GK friendlier for newer players?
Most people quit gk as soon as they get on because you cant get any items anymore.
It turned into another retarded Maloria.
If you arent an oldbie, you will suck even if you are the most skilled person on the server.
Newer players have no chance.
Everyone is walking around with RoW's,Green Cloaks,Ice Shields,Speed Amulets,Miscltoe amulets, and cowboy hats.
New players can get what?
Nothing.Just **** that will slow them down and barely offer any protection.
They also have nothing to do because they cannot fight off the simplest enemeys or they cannot afford anything.
Rich players take advantage of the fact that they arent obtainable anymore and sell them for "100 diamonds"
100 diamonds...for one item which isnt even ubar powerfull...
WTF!?!?

Wow you are retarded, ok lets start.

Everyone would like a democrisy on all online games, however that would only lead to total disaster...

Just because a game is dependant on players, does not mean it should bend over backwards for each individual, you seriously don't know what needs to be done.

If all requests were answered, i assure you, Graal wouldn't be here.
No one is saying they are of higher priority, the issue of attracting new players is a delicate one, and cannot be tackled as swiftly as creating holiday items.

People who quit because they cannot get items immediately shouldn't be playing imo. I started with nothing, and i'm not an oldbie, haven't played for longer than 3+/- years, but i have fairly decent items, without any dodgey business.

Lets not bring the great Maloria into this, it had it's own problems, which are actually being rectified now.

You'll suck because you haven't learned 2play...

I can assure you everyone is NOT walking around with RoW's. The other items maybie, because they were massed released or are craftable (have been for a long time), so you shouldn't be putting RoW in the same category as those common items...

GK is trying to become more newb friendly, but it is not completely impossible for a newb to become slightly better off, they simply need a little bit of inicietive and will power to get themselves out of poverty. Hell, or you need to do is ask a nice person in HH to give you a flamesword, get some weak armor, kill bomy's, get piety, pray to gov, bless ur wep, kill rexe's - sorted.

"Rich players take advantage of the fact that they arent obtainable anymore and sell them for "100 diamonds"
100 diamonds...for one item which isnt even ubar powerfull..." The cherry on the top, wow. Ok firstly, no one 'takes advantage', values are decided by numerous factors, usually supply n demand, crafting cost (if it can be crafted), value of crafting input items (if it can be crafted), rarity, collectable value and usefulness of item. Lets use RoS for example, it's worth 100diamonds - not overpriced. RoS is spawned quite rarely in shops for a reasonable amount of platinum coins. It's very useful to an aspiring young warrior or someone who just wants reasonably balanced stats. It's not incredibly rare and considered quite common. I think it's safe to say that supply meets demand quite well, one hoping to buy a RoS can hope to find one within minutes - a week (at max). It's not collectable or craftable. After considering these factors and also taking individual player limits/budgets into consideration, the price of 100dias seems very reasonable and i think i've only heard several people complain about 100diamond items. Btw, if you're talking about +12 armor items, it's because the enchanting costs are 60diamonds atleast, so the end value depends on the original item value/usefulness.

Originally Posted by dNeonb

Looking at all the recent changes affecting new players a lot of things changed and are more easy for them. In my opinion, they have lots of more things they are able to do and go on GK.

About the diamonds, I say it is a problem but it's community made. If everyone would say diamonds go for 100 plant and veryone would do it we are getting somewhere. The more and more expensive diamonds get the more worse the econnomy is going to be.

Diamonds are not the problem, it's platinum coins that are. Look at plat values of certain rares in stores, it's ludicrous actually. The weight of 20-200k plat is significantly higher than it's diamond equivilent ( 40 - 400 diamonds ) so diamonds are favoured by new players and old.

If there was a better coin system, and perhaps more valuable coins as suggested many times, we would see the economy look a little more stable.

[Sheen_the_mage]

Originally Posted by MajinDragon

Wow you are retarded, ok lets start.

Everyone would like a democrisy on all online games, however that would only lead to total disaster...

Just because a game is dependant on players, does not mean it should bend over backwards for each individual, you seriously don't know what needs to be done.

If all requests were answered, i assure you, Graal wouldn't be here.
No one is saying they are of higher priority, the issue of attracting new players is a delicate one, and cannot be tackled as swiftly as creating holiday items.

People who quit because they cannot get items immediately shouldn't be playing imo. I started with nothing, and i'm not an oldbie, haven't played for longer than 3+/- years, but i have fairly decent items, without any dodgey business.

Lets not bring the great Maloria into this, it had it's own problems, which are actually being rectified now.

You'll suck because you haven't learned 2play...

I can assure you everyone is NOT walking around with RoW's. The other items maybie, because they were massed released or are craftable (have been for a long time), so you shouldn't be putting RoW in the same category as those common items...

GK is trying to become more newb friendly, but it is not completely impossible for a newb to become slightly better off, they simply need a little bit of inicietive and will power to get themselves out of poverty. Hell, or you need to do is ask a nice person in HH to give you a flamesword, get some weak armor, kill bomy's, get piety, pray to gov, bless ur wep, kill rexe's - sorted.

"Rich players take advantage of the fact that they arent obtainable anymore and sell them for "100 diamonds"
100 diamonds...for one item which isnt even ubar powerfull..." The cherry on the top, wow. Ok firstly, no one 'takes advantage', values are decided by numerous factors, usually supply n demand, crafting cost (if it can be crafted), value of crafting input items (if it can be crafted), rarity, collectable value and usefulness of item. Lets use RoS for example, it's worth 100diamonds - not overpriced. RoS is spawned quite rarely in shops for a reasonable amount of platinum coins. It's very useful to an aspiring young warrior or someone who just wants reasonably balanced stats. It's not incredibly rare and considered quite common. I think it's safe to say that supply meets demand quite well, one hoping to buy a RoS can hope to find one within minutes - a week (at max). It's not collectable or craftable. After considering these factors and also taking individual player limits/budgets into consideration, the price of 100dias seems very reasonable and i think i've only heard several people complain about 100diamond items. Btw, if you're talking about +12 armor items, it's because the enchanting costs are 60diamonds atleast, so the end value depends on the original item value/usefulness.



Diamonds are not the problem, it's platinum coins that are. Look at plat values of certain rares in stores, it's ludicrous actually. The weight of 20-200k plat is significantly higher than it's diamond equivilent ( 40 - 400 diamonds ) so diamonds are favoured by new players and old.

If there was a better coin system, and perhaps more valuable coins as suggested many times, we would see the economy look a little more stable.

People dont quit because they cannot get an item immediatly.They quit because they are limited to evil bomy helmet(Which isnt that bad in some cases),gold plate armor(this armor slows you down like HELL),Flaming sword(Which is not favored by many), and spiked shield.

And about RoW, if you think I am talking about EVERY player then you yourself are not making sense.I am not complaining about RoW because I dont have one.Infact, I have good items believe it or not.However, such items would not be obtainable if I started only recently.The problem is that stuff is impossible to get.
The 100 Dia's part I mentioned, you took way too litteral.
And I am not complaining about +12 armor or RoS being 100 dias.
However, I am complaining that certain weapons are 100 dias.
Such examples are Inferno Dagger and (In the past and soon futur) Ice Dagger.
It is true those items are good for killing people who have +12 armor since they can strike through defences, but they are not so good that you need to save up for such a long period of time
Such items should be obtainable by any player if they work for it rather then being older.I am not saying to just hand them out, but make them actually obtainable by making them a rare drop or making them craftable with the materials are hard to get.

[FenixTheBanished]

Please, I am all for debating and arguing, but lets please keep it on subject.


We need a new admin who cares about our server and hell, the servers already on it death bed, Give Tig a chance to improve it! If you dont like his work or his attitude then just fire him if you don't like it! But give him and us a chance to make our server worth the 24$ a year!

[Sheen_the_mage]

Originally Posted by FenixTheBanished

Please, I am all for debating and arguing, but lets please keep it on subject.


We need a new admin who cares about our server and hell, the servers already on it death bed, Give Tig a chance to improve it! If you dont like his work or his attitude then just fire him if you don't like it! But give him and us a chance to make our server worth the 24$ a year!

Durrr 49$ you mean?
Most people take the triple pack =P
I have a feeling though that you guys as the staff will be payed if the fantasy comes true.
The fantasy were we get advirtising,playercount skyrockets,Graal owns runescape.

edit:
I would like to apologize if I was being too harsh in my recent posts

[Ravenblade1979]

Give Tig a shot...whats to lose. GK hit rock bottom but that rock is nearly cracked.

[FenixTheBanished]

Googi, Tig won't save this server? What exactly is save? Bring players back? Do you really think players want to join the Graal Kingdoms community as it is now? Maybe Tig has plans. There is no HARM AT ALL in giving Tig a chance to try and add content to Graal Kingdoms. I really don't see why not. He's just going to try and make Graal Kingdoms a more enjoyable experience for you and everybody else.

Give Tig a shot...whats to lose. GK hit rock bottom but that rock is nearly cracked.

There is the opinion of the server in a nutshell. Please do it.

[Tigairius]

I think the biggest problem the GK administration has with my presence is my history. People forget to remember that the definition of history is the aggregate of past events. It's the past. There is nothing I can do to change the way I have acted in the past to get myself banned, etc. I'd like to bring an example to hand though: Hell Raven (sorry buddy <3). Hell Raven had been known for years as a notorious hacker, who spent a lot of time messing up things like Doomsday, by jailing everyone on the server, and on many other servers as well. He was banned for hacking too. He assisted in re-making a Graal1.39 server by coding, and was highly involved in some of those activities. He changed, he changed his mind, and his attitude and now he is a global staff member.
As I have stated several times I am sorry for the past, but bringing it up doesn't change the future of GK, does it? I am sided with the people who want me to be an administrator, but I am not rooting for any side. Either way, I consider this community my family and I consider this server my home, and I don't want to see it fall down like this without one last attempt by my hand.

Edit:
And I will be doing work on debug, anyways, I guess some people feel that with administration title it enables more control over the projects and these people trust my control.

[alarid0]

*just have to say first off that I didn't read any of the first three pages of this thread...i dont have the time to read it right now...*

"Proposition to save Graal Kingdoms" ...
really I have to laugh every time I catch wind of any thought of reviving or saving GK... its so doomed... so terribly doomed...

[jonnyrocks2]

GK is capable of being saved, but would require extensive work. :s

[DustyPorViva]

Where the hell are my 42 female virgins?

[ViperZakuto]

Tig will never be an admin of gk... because gk staff doesn't trust people from USA.. it's just a fact I've noticed in the past 5 years.

[FenixTheBanished]

If we keep pushing and show that we have support and are serious I think they will seriously consider it, but if we just sit here and roll over then yeah, nothing will happen.

[ReBorn_Spirit]

It's been proven before that new content only lasts so long.
The same goes for friendly/unfriendly faces. Not pointing at anyone really, I know alot of people feel Bjorn isnt on peoples good side as it is.

Fact is, you need more then just a server manager to be active. Events team and someone to fix bugs and update levels are needed as well. Not to mention not as critical and far more likely to succede at being restored then attempting to replace Bjorn.

There are hundreds of actually decent/semi decent suggestions that never even got an attempt to be done to GK. Some of them should have been too. It really isnt a wonder why GK is falling apart when you think of just those points alone.

Sorry but I just cannot agree with replacing staff when we should be restoring all of their activity ratings.

[Luigi203]

Originally Posted by ReBorn_Spirit

It's been proven before that new content only lasts so long.

It's been proven that anything new is only new for so long. The idea is to hire a server manager who adds/updates things regularly. What I mean is somone who doesn't wait for some sort of holiday to upload items with fancy new graphics, without even really developing the server. Real gameplay changes and updates. New functions, and the repair of disabled/never finished functions.

Originally Posted by ReBorn_Spirit

The same goes for friendly/unfriendly faces. Not pointing at anyone really, I know alot of people feel Bjorn isnt on peoples good side as it is.

Which is relevant, how?

Originally Posted by ReBorn_Spirit

Fact is, you need more then just a server manager to be active. Events team and someone to fix bugs and update levels are needed as well.

...and Tig is capabable of all of this...which is why Tig was nominated to replace Bjorn...?

Originally Posted by ReBorn_Spirit

Not to mention not as critical and far more likely to succede at being restored then attempting to replace Bjorn.

Did this sway your vote?

Originally Posted by ReBorn_Spirit

There are hundreds of actually decent/semi decent suggestions that never even got an attempt to be done to GK. Some of them should have been too. It really isnt a wonder why GK is falling apart when you think of just those points alone.

...which is why Tig was nominated to replace Bjorn...?

Originally Posted by ReBorn_Spirit

Sorry but I just cannot agree with replacing staff when we should be restoring all of their activity ratings.

What...?!

[Googi]

Originally Posted by Luigi203

...which is why Tig was nominated to replace Bjorn...?

Nobody is talking about having anybody replace Bjorn.

[Laek2007]

Originally Posted by Googi

Nobody is talking about having anybody replace Bjorn.

Obviously someone is.

And I do agree something has to happend.

[DraxxTeazok]

first off i have to say, googie your an idiot. i have never once seen you bring any useful information or advice to any thread on the forums. i have also suggested many great ideas to expand gk, and am never taken seriously. anyone who is a real gamer can tell how to evolve this game simply by taking the best parts of past games and adapting them to fit in the gk world. just like my fishing idea.

Secondly, tig you're one of the most foul people i have ever met, and as a person you make me sick, but i know you can dev, and you have ideas. if i could stand to be around you i may have already started working with you.

Third is to Bjorn, you're lazy. i dunno if anyone else really knows it, but i do. I know working on this game can be a pain, it can make you want to tear your hair out in clumps, but if you dont care for playing the game, then you should NEVER be in charge of anything.
Have you fixed the postal system yet that i asked you to do at least half a dozen times in the past two years? NO
instead you forgot about it again, guarantee it, because YOU DONT CARE TO PLAY this game
and whats worse is that you are still the best guy for the job
you're "waiting for those item stats" are ya?
you think you sound like a leader? you sound like a loser
if you gave a **** you would have gone to stefan 100 times by now for those stats
and you "dont know how the US works?"
you have made that very clear, but care to guess where your player base originates? thats right, we are mostly americans (dunno if you actually even realize that)
you have also made it very clear that you are good with scripting, but you know nothing about game creation
im willing to bet your not even a gamer, not even a little bit

i dont think we should replace you, i think you need to get your **** together and do something like a real leader

i have given you tons of my ideas for a great fishing system, bug catching, farming with animals, a pet job system, new monsters and drops, custom kingdom hair clothing and gear, sounds and animals of nature, a gift giving mail system, wild plant/fungus gathering guide, custom home furnishings, i can go on and on, but the fact is none of them, not one has been implimented

not once have you even taken the time to learn from me
even when alarid made custom kingdom clothing ideas, and new monsters, you ignored him until he quit, now he laughs at you and talks about how your doomed, and im willing to bet hes right

now im stuck doing GFX and being ignored alone again

you want people to actually believe you work hard? then hire some staff, hire some scripters and GFX, hire Tig for a start, and get to work on this games content (note that doesn't include anymore useless ugly items or blank islands) i mean REAL content

and dayaa, saying new content only lasts so long is just ignorant, thats like saying lords no longer have a place in gk
they weren't there before, then they were added, and they been useful in several ways ever since (thats real new content)

P.S. Tig if you cant script, i dont see how you could really be of help, other then helping with gfx (making new buildings filled with the same junk doesn't even classify as a bandaid)

[ViperZakuto]

I was waiting for you to come in on this one. =D I believe tig can script with the best of them. If he couldn't I don't think he would be working on his own server called Ol West. =O I see you have had more ideas. =P Wish I could help you on that =(

Originally Posted by Luigi203

...and Tig is capabable of all of this...which is why Tig was nominated to replace Bjorn...?

first off if you read this thread it is not to replace Bjorn. As much as we would all like to see it happen... Bjorn is more than likely going to stay. This is about making Tig an admin.

@Bjorn: Your lucky that the proposition to remove you from GK admin was taken down like 1 year ago for fear of getting banned. It was signed by like 2/3 of the gk population at the time =O

[dNeonb]

Originally Posted by ViperZakuto

This is about making Tig an admin.

Actually it is but you forgot to mention one point. All the arguments are based on it that Tig can only help GK if he is Admin, and this is not ture.

Originally Posted by ViperZakuto

@Bjorn: Your lucky that the proposition to remove you from GK admin was taken down like 1 year ago for fear of getting banned. It was signed by like 2/3 of the gk population at the time =O

I can not remember such a proposition at all. But when talking about 2/3 of GK you are talking about something on forums I assume because there wouldn't have been a way to do that on GK. So only say 2/3 of the people who are active on the gk forums and not of the GK players.
If I would treat people that way a few would be banned which they are not. This is just defamation and nothing else. If you have nothing better than defamations to support your opinion I really do feel sorry for you.

[Sheen_the_mage]

If the forum is just a tiny bit of the gk community, why isn't there an in-game poll?
I remember one a few years ago.

[Pimmeh]

Because the masses cant make their own desisions, afcourse.
That is the reason we have leaders, because total democracy wouldnt work