Graal V5 is coming ! - Page 9

coreys · #1 07-11-2007, 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

Yes, let's wait until AFTER they release it to voice our concerns. You know, so they can't take anything into consideration before putting all the work and effort into changing things.
Oh, and I'm sorry I'm *****ing about being able to work on Graal, make content for Graal. I'm such a selfish bastard.

Wait, doesn't your sig say you don't have time to work on a server?

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

See, Stefan never really clarified. He just said that we'd wouldn't lose the tools we already had on our computer, he never really stated if we had to pay to get new tool upgrades and such. Which is why people kept asking.

Also, about complaining... well it's feedback. I think as head of CJ and such, Stefan and Unixmad, you should respect what people are unhappy about. At least people are voicing their themselves about it and telling you what they don't like. It's part of the territory, if you release something that adds a lot of new change, expect people to voice themselves. In the end, isn't it really us who use it, so why get so mad when we speak our opinion?

Amen, brudda

DustyPorViva · #2 07-11-2007, 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by coreys

Wait, doesn't your sig say you don't have time to work on a server?

I don't work for a server(well I work for Graal BM), but I still like to help, like my free graphics thread. I don't really dedicate myself to a server, but I like to help when I feel I can.

Rapidwolve · #3 07-10-2007, 10:46 PM

I say the complainers don't get an update that will make them happy and will stop them from quitting.

PrinceOfKenshin · #4 07-10-2007, 10:50 PM

Well i am excited for this release. I really want to play graal 3D i was just confused on that statement about the developer tools. = )

Elk · #5 07-10-2007, 10:50 PM

I already know how its gonna look heh

unixmad · #6 07-10-2007, 10:50 PM

Stefan have already explained it:

You will not have to pay to use developer tools. The new developer pack is a way to team up with 4 other developer to get a playerworld. Developer pack will costs less than 2USD a month.

UberModeKappa · #7 07-10-2007, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by unixmad

You will not have to pay to use developer tools. The new developer pack is a way to team up with 4 other developer to get a playerworld. Developer pack will costs less than 2USD a month.

This sounds good

Darlene159 · #8 07-10-2007, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by unixmad

Stefan have already explained it:

You will not have to pay to use developer tools. The new developer pack is a way to team up with 4 other developer to get a playerworld. Developer pack will costs less than 2USD a month.

I didn't see where he explained it fully. You just did. Thank you.

ArushenP2P · #9 07-10-2007, 10:51 PM

Um, What will happen to the current Server Owners which bought like 1-2 years for their Playerworld. Will it affect their subscription when V5 rolls out.

anubis_wing · #10 07-10-2007, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MKxTortoise

"Here's what we're doing, I only want to hear positive comments! No constructive criticism allowed!!! No concerns either!"

You don't know enough about it to critisize it, you've read a page of information. Most of it not as clear as one would like but still you can't base your judgements off of 1 page of information.

MKxTortoise · #11 07-10-2007, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by anubis_wing

You don't know enough about it to critisize it, you've read a page of information. Most of it not as clear as one would like but still you can't base your judgements off of 1 page of information.

So it's my fault I've been given bad or incomplete information to digest now? I can only read what's in front of me. I'm not some ub3r-l33t Kaimetsu-loving yes-man who gets top secret xxx trotsivahax1337 access to Graal v5 (unlike, apparently, many people in this thread) - I can only read and react what I've seen. Okay, I've not seen much, and what I have seen was confusing and seemingly restricting.

Next time, they can either:
*Be clearer in their newsletter next time
*Not post a newsletter

I believe they chose option number two. However, I do appreciate Stefan himself saying that we're not paying to develop or for developer tools, only for a playerworld building guild (or whatever). As long as it doesn't affect my work or my server, I ultimately don't care. When it might affect me, I have the right to an opinion regardless of whether or not Moon Goddess is going to delete that opinion.

anubis_wing · #12 07-10-2007, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MKxTortoise

So it's my fault I've been given bad or incomplete information to digest now? I can only read what's in front of me. I'm not some ub3r-l33t Kaimetsu-loving yes-man who gets top secret xxx trotsivahax1337 access to Graal v5 (unlike, apparently, many people in this thread) - I can only read and react what I've seen. Okay, I've not seen much, and what I have seen was confusing and seemingly restricting.

Next time, they can either:
*Be clearer in their newsletter next time
*Not post a newsletter

I believe they chose option number two. However, I do appreciate Stefan himself saying that we're not paying to develop or for developer tools, only for a playerworld building guild (or whatever). As long as it doesn't affect my work or my server, I ultimately don't care. When it might affect me, I have the right to an opinion regardless of whether or not Moon Goddess is going to delete that opinion.

And now that you DO know the information you don't seem to be as mad at it as you were before, learn the facts before you *****.

Darlene159 · #13 07-10-2007, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by MKxTortoise

So it's my fault I've been given bad or incomplete information to digest now? I can only read what's in front of me. I'm not some ub3r-l33t Kaimetsu-loving yes-man who gets top secret xxx trotsivahax1337 access to Graal v5 (unlike, apparently, many people in this thread) - I can only read and react what I've seen. Okay, I've not seen much, and what I have seen was confusing and seemingly restricting.

Next time, they can either:
*Be clearer in their newsletter next time
*Not post a newsletter

I believe they chose option number two. However, I do appreciate Stefan himself saying that we're not paying to develop or for developer tools, only for a playerworld building guild (or whatever). As long as it doesn't affect my work or my server, I ultimately don't care. When it might affect me, I have the right to an opinion regardless of whether or not Moon Goddess is going to delete that opinion.

Hmm, I have no more info then what you have read in the news letter, and it was all pretty clear to me, except the development subscription, which was just cleared up...

and, I didn't delete any of your posts

PrinceOfKenshin · #14 07-10-2007, 10:52 PM

Ok thanks Unixmad for the clearing up. I am excited and can not wait! What do you guys use to make the animations for Graal 3D i am really interested in learning.

ArushenP2P · #15 07-10-2007, 10:55 PM

So you mean. It's just soft of like a (GUILD) but has the privilege to construct a server? So If the PW takes about 1 year to develop that's 24 Dollars per year. Oh and will it be free once it's in Classic Tabs like most servers do.
That is awesome if it's true.