Congratulations Hell Raven

[Andy0687]

omfg how do you people not know Hell Raven?

wtf. I even knew of Hell Raven back before I actually ever even talked to him.

[Minoc]

Originally Posted by Andy0687

omfg how do you people not know Hell Raven?

Newbies :)

[Inverness]

Originally Posted by Minoc

Newbies

Bah, I been playing since back in 2002. I just don't get around much

[Gambet]

Originally Posted by Inverness

Bah, I been playing since back in 2002. I just don't get around much

Or maybe the other way around.


Hell Raven doesn't get around much, seeing as the only server I've seen him on was on NP Dev waiting for Ducati.


That is honestly the only place I've seen him and I usually go around from server to server when I get bored.


Apparently you have to work for classic to be global or something, since Bell came from classic also and I never even heard of Bell. Ironically, though, classic isn't even classic anymore. They have a custom movement system and a custom hp system and heaven knows what else.

[Gambet]

I knew Hell Raven as the person that helped leech the gservers and use trainers.


I only recently heard that he scripts, and apparently he must either script well or have friends in high places.


A lot of people probably don't know who Hell Raven is. I only even knew Hell Raven from sparring, never from developing.

[TESTRETIS]

Totally didn't see this coming at all! Congratulations!

[Twinny]

Hell Raven is (and hopefully will still be) the head of Classic Development. Now he is also a GST .

[Inverness]

Originally Posted by Andy0687

omfg how do you people not know Hell Raven?

wtf. I even knew of Hell Raven back before I actually ever even talked to him.

I live under a huge shiny rock.

Originally Posted by Twinny

Hell Raven is (and hopefully will still be) the head of Classic Development. Now he is also a GST .

I thought global staff could not work for any specific playerworld. But I suppose this would only concern PWA as it was stated during the whole PWA Application phase.

[DustyPorViva]

Originally Posted by Inverness

I live under a huge shiny rock.

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...72&postcount=1

Also, congratulations

[Inverness]

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...72&postcount=1

...
Weirdo

[eronix]

What I mean is, you can't crack under stupid pressure, such as a scenario where jigga asks you to change his server name 15 times in a month, you can't burst out and say "OMFG YOU *%#((%*($@ING STUPID $@()$() PIECE OF *)*#@)%(%)(@! *$@)*)@! CUT THIS *$)@*$)@$()@$ THE *)$@*$)@(*)$(@ OUT BEFORE I %(#)%(#)%(#)( GLOBAL YOU!!!"


Haha yeah.. The good ol' classic boom, right before UN started opening up their arms to every trial in sight.. Still though, that's been a while ;|..

[Bell]

Originally Posted by eronix

What I mean is, you can't crack under stupid pressure, such as a scenario where jigga asks you to change his server name 15 times in a month, you can't burst out and say "OMFG YOU *%#((%*($@ING STUPID $@()$() PIECE OF *)*#@)%(%)(@! *$@)*)@! CUT THIS *$)@*$)@$()@$ THE *)$@*$)@(*)$(@ OUT BEFORE I %(#)%(#)%(#)( GLOBAL YOU!!!"

?, I'm not sure who this is directed at but last time I checked this was a thread congratulating Hell Raven on his appointment to the GST. If your intention is to bash me I do believe thats covered in another thread. If its to bash Houdini, Vulcan or Ibonic. I'm sure there must be a thread somewhere to post in. What server or servers anyone is associated with seems to be immaterial.

[killerogue]

Originally Posted by Bell

?, I'm not sure who this is directed at but last time I checked this was a thread congratulating Hell Raven on his appointment to the GST. If your intention is to bash me I do believe thats covered in another thread. If its to bash Houdini, Vulcan or Ibonic. I'm sure there must be a thread somewhere to post in. What server or servers anyone is associated with seems to be immaterial.

Made me giggle Bell.

[killerogue]

Lol @ use of Jigga as example. XD

[Tyhm]

Is it wrong for me to be glad Classic's at least maintaining its title as the Global Training Step Headquarters?

I mean, I'd be happier if it was the newbie welcome-mat server, but at least it's got a globally-defined "job"...

[Bl0nkt]

Does anyone else find it suspicious that yet another girly male global scripter was hired?

[Angel_Light]

Originally Posted by Bl0nkt

Does anyone else find it suspicious that yet another girly male global scripter was hired?

ROFLMFAO!!! But there the good ones XD

[killerogue]

Originally Posted by Bl0nkt

Does anyone else find it suspicious that yet another girly male global scripter was hired?

I'm pretty sure Hell isn't girly Hachi. >.>

[Inspiration]

Gambet it's kinda obvious that you're angry because you did not get the job.

Bell has been much more of an Admin on classic than a GP honestly. She's beyond qualified.

Hell has been coding since I can remember, on and off of graal, and he's damn good at it. He's worked on countless projects on tons of worlds.

Both are qualified and capable.

[Gambet]

I wasn't even in the running for the position, what the hell are you talking about?


You have to want something to have an opinion?


You think Hell Raven and Bell are the only ones qualified and capable?


Get out of here.

[PrinceDark]

lol He was with us. Just under a different nick cuz Moonie woulda kicked him out if she knew who he was.

[Gambet]

Originally Posted by PrinceDark

lol He was with us. Just under a different nick cuz Moonie woulda kicked him out if she knew who he was.

Yeah, he has a nice way of masking his past.

[Twinny]

Originally Posted by Gambet

Yeah, he has a nice way of masking his past.

Kristi does not have to live up to your expectations: no-one does. If you want to congratulate him then do so but do not try and discredit him since you don't know who he is. Bringing up his past actions and the fact that you do not know who he is won't do anything since Skyld has chosen him with good reason.

Consistant bad-mouthing just shows jealousy. Either accept the fact Kristi is an excellent candidate for the job and well respected within the scripting community and the graal community as a whole or go sulk in the corner but do not try to discredit him!

[Inspiration]

Originally Posted by Gambet

I wasn't even in the running for the position, what the hell are you talking about?

I'm just talking about your constant reminders to the community on how helpful you are, how much stuff you've scripted, ect.

Actions speak louder than words, always.

Originally Posted by Gambet

You have to want something to have an opinion?

No, but you interject your own actions into your opinions.

Originally Posted by Gambet

You think Hell Raven and Bell are the only ones qualified and capable?


Get out of here.

Uh, please tell me exactly where I said this.

Don't put words in my mouth. Thanks.

[WanDaMan]

Kewl, global authority! I guess people do change congratz

[Gambet]

Oh, I know Hell Raven, just not for any of the reasons that you know him for.


You don't act like what he did never happened. He was well involved with anti graal affairs FYI.



I know him for one thing while you know him for another. That doesn't make me anymore wrong than it does you.


It has NOTHING to do with jealousy, pal. He discredited himself with his past actions, at least he's changed for the better.

[Twinny]

Originally Posted by Gambet

Oh, I know Hell Raven, just not for any of the reasons that you know him for.


You don't act like what he did never happened. He was well involved with anti graal affairs FYI.

Yes I know of his past. How long until he is redeemed in your eyes? I don't feel like getting into one of your "I've already won" arguments but just leave your discrediting crap out of this. The admins know of Kristi's past yet they have accepted him. You should too.

[Kristi]

Originally Posted by Gambet

You don't act like what he did never happened. He was well involved with anti graal affairs FYI.

I was never associated with antigraal (which at the time would be viper and the sg111 soundoff). I was always absolutely against any harmful attacks on graal, and personally rallied against viper with my peers trying to convince people to stop the ddos attacks. I enjoy graal, and always have. Anything I did made people laugh and was far from distructive. I was just going to ignore this complete argument but please do not taint me with an antigraal title.

[Gambet]

Originally Posted by Kristi

I was never associated with antigraal (which at the time would be viper and the sg111 soundoff). I was always absolutely against any harmful attacks on graal, and personally rallied against viper with my peers trying to convince people to stop the ddos attacks. I enjoy graal, and always have. Anything I did made people laugh and was far from distructive. I was just going to ignore this complete argument but please do not taint me with an antigraal title.

I wasn't referring to the anti unixmad crap or anything of the sort. Was just referring to the fact that you don't exactly have a clean history on your shoulders, which sadly for you is what people will remember you for.


I'm not the only one in this thread that has mentioned it, and I don't think I was the first either. You'll have to go the extra margin to change peoples perceptions of you for the better.

[Kristi]

Originally Posted by Gambet

I wasn't referring to the anti unixmad crap or anything of the sort. Was just referring to the fact that you don't exactly have a clean history on your shoulders, which sadly for you is what people will remember you for.


I'm not the only one in this thread that has mentioned it, and I don't think I was the first either.

Hmm, okay. 9 years on graal, maybe the first 3-4 with a bad history, starting when i was 13 years old. In that time period I graduated middle school, graduated college, got a job. Moved to boston, do grad work at Harvard Medical in a Mass Spectrometry lab joint with MIT, etc etc. I've had ultimate access to the top servers at this moment for a while now (Classic, UN, Zodiac, etc), and they are all still here and fine, and the only thing I have done is help them. It is fair to say in these years I have grown and matured from my middle school antics.

I didn't ask for this, Skyld and it seems many of these other supporters seem I am right for this job. I am thankful and enjoy the honor, because I enjoy helping people out.

So you got your point out, for whatever reason you desired to, that I had a mischievous past. It has been adknowledged. There is no reason to argue about it anymore.

[Gambet]

Originally Posted by Kristi

Hmm, okay. 9 years on graal, maybe the first 3-4 with a bad history, starting when i was 13 years old. In that time period I graduated middle school, graduated college, got a job. Moved to boston, do grad work at Harvard Medical in a Mass Spectrometry lab joint with MIT, etc etc. I've had ultimate access to the top servers at this moment for a while now (Classic, UN, Zodiac, etc), and they are all still here and fine, and the only thing I have done is help them. It is fair to say in these years I have grown and matured from my middle school antics.

I didn't ask for this, Skyld and it seems many of these other supporters seem I am right for this job. I am thankful and enjoy the honor, because I enjoy helping people out.

If you were smart enough to do what you did, you'd also be smart enough to know what you were doing was wrong, which clearly you did still do, so the whole age crap is irrelevant.


I'm not saying you havn't changed, I'm just saying that you arn't as known as you actually think you are, and even those that know who you are don't all know you for what you'd want to be remembered for is all.


Do well and change peoples perceptions about you is what I'd suggest. Write new pages in your history book to be remembered by.

[Gambet]

Originally Posted by Twinny

Yes I know. How long until he is redeemed in your eyes? I don't feel like getting into one of your "I've already won" arguments but just leave your discrediting crap out of this. The admins know of Kristi's past yet they have accepted him. You should too.

Yes, because if it's not praise then you shouldn't have an opinion, right?


Because I'm sure we'd want Jellyfish with a global RC, right?


Why do you think jobs do background checks on applicants? You think they want criminals in their workforce?


Clearly he's changed, but it doesn't mean he doesn't have it in him to do it again if he's already done it.


The admins probably don't know about his past, and you know what, it doesn't really matter to me if they do or not. They've been wrong before.



He'll change in my eyes once he's earned it. We'll just see how he is as a member of the GST.

[Twinny]

Originally Posted by Gambet

Yes, because if it's not praise then you shouldn't have an opinion, right?

Because I'm sure we'd want Jellyfish with a global RC, right?

Why do you think jobs do background checks on applicants? You think they want criminals in their workforce?

Clearly he's changed, but it doesn't mean he doesn't have it in him to do it again if he's already done it.

The admins probably don't know about his past, and you know what, it doesn't really matter to me if they do or not. They've been wrong before.

He'll change in my eyes once he's earned it. We'll just see how he is as a member of the GST.

If you have your doubts then take it to a pm to Skyld, Stefan or Kristi himself. Last I knew, all hiring and background checks are performed by the admins.

Also, comparing Kristi to Jellyfish is insultive.

[Gambet]

Originally Posted by Twinny

Also, comparing Kristi to Jellyfish is insultive.

I wasn't comparing Jellyfish with anyone, I was just giving an example. Hell Raven is nowhere near Jellyfish and what he did, let's not even go there.

[Andy0687]

Originally Posted by Gambet

The admins probably don't know about his past, and you know what, it doesn't really matter to me if they do or not. They've been wrong before.

No im pretty sure everyone is aware, if i remember correctly there was even a thread about things you did in the past.

Besides there has only ever really been one Hell Raven.

[TSAdmin]

*quotes every congratulatory post in this thread to save sounding like a broken record*

[DustyPorViva]

Yes, because how hard and well you work is determined by how well you are known.

[Inverness]

Gambet, you seem to be bringing up stuff that nobody cares about at the moment...

[Gambet]

Originally Posted by Inverness

Gambet, you seem to be bringing up stuff that nobody cares about at the moment...

The conversation was dropped already.

[Switch]

GJ 'Hell Raven'