Selling over AIM (USDers...) - Page 2

hampy · #1 07-08-2006, 09:41 PM

Even if I had 1 million $ I wouldn't spend money on buying GK items. Plus have you ever thought that some of us graal players aren't old enough to get a job?...

Devotchkas · #2 07-08-2006, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by hampy

Plus have you ever thought that some of us graal players aren't old enough to get a job?...

mow lawns

i did it for 5 years and made 500 a month

dont pull the "i cant get a job" line with me
its called work for a reason

lordbosh · #3 07-08-2006, 09:48 PM

No he has a point. Dont tell anyone how to live their life. We are given individuality for a reason. If you want to take that away you are nothing more than another fascist or communist, thats why the United States had things to protect their people until 2001.

hampy · #4 07-08-2006, 09:49 PM

xP you were the one accusing people of things in the first place. I was just the one who faught back

hampy · #5 07-08-2006, 09:50 PM

I love you Miz <3

Devotchkas · #6 07-08-2006, 09:52 PM

actually i didnt
and im tired of people taking away other peoples rights

like sam
i live in america
dont say my freedom of speach is flaming
thanks
i should sue you

hampy · #7 07-08-2006, 09:56 PM

Hey! Sams has done nothing wrong, don't take your anger out on him. Sams a good guy who should be thanked and respected for all the time and effort put in to GK.

Sam is the best staff on GK, ever in my opinion

ReBorn_Spirit · #8 07-08-2006, 09:58 PM

zzz
I like Sam, But I still want cookies to be craftable!

Oh right.. topic.. ehh..

Well if you want to try USD way, I hope your ready to get scammed by someone.

*oh, Hi Sam

hampy · #9 07-08-2006, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ReBorn_Spirit

Well if you want to try USD way, I hope your ready to get scammed by someone.

Nicely put.

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Originally Posted by Devotchkas

that wasnt it was for hampy sorry.

Freedom of speach as you say

Anyway i'm not sucking up to anyone. Just because I like Sam and try to praise him doesn't mean i'm a bad person

ReBorn_Spirit · #10 07-08-2006, 10:07 PM

It would actually make more sense if staff actually tried to make money for graalonline with USD scamms like this. Then again I probably should shut up.

Or you could do some MapleStory thing and let users buy "cool new looks" that only last 90 days.

Devotchkas · #11 07-08-2006, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ReBorn_Spirit

It would actually make more sense if staff actually tried to make money for graalonline with USD

been said before

its simple
set up a trade area on the graalonline page
and take a percentage off of it like ebay DERRRR

more money for stefan
oh wow
hard concept for staff to bring up to him but no, they dont
im sure he'd like more money

Devotchkas · #12 07-08-2006, 11:19 PM

markb would be the greatest staff member to play GK

he actually evented good items

not 3 diamonds
or tree seeds

Sam · #13 07-08-2006, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Devotchkas

actually i didnt
and im tired of people taking away other peoples rights

like sam
i live in america
dont say my freedom of speach is flaming
thanks
i should sue you

You should read the forum rules asap to prevent being banned before reaching your 10th post! Take this serious!

Devotchkas · #14 07-08-2006, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam

You should read the forum rules asap to prevent being banned before reaching your 10th post! Take this serious!

why dont you tell me where to read sam :]
i see nothing wrong in what ive said

that wasnt
it was for hampy
sorry

Devotchkas · #15 07-08-2006, 09:58 PM

sucking up gets you nothing but laughs

ReBorn_Spirit · #16 07-08-2006, 09:59 PM

Who ever said I was doing that?

Oo What, do you wants a hug? Are you sad now?

AlaricoMontario · #17 07-08-2006, 11:48 PM

The fact is, even if Graal can't control what happens over AIM, it can control what's on it's servers. What I mean by this is,

While no, you can't pillor/ban someone for AIM USD'ing, you CAN pillor/ban them for attemping it by sending out a mass message saying you're selling on AIM.

Zero Hour · #18 07-08-2006, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by AlaricoMontario

The fact is, even if Graal can't control what happens over AIM, it can control what's on it's servers. What I mean by this is,

While no, you can't pillor/ban someone for AIM USD'ing, you CAN pillor/ban them for attemping it by sending out a mass message saying you're selling on AIM.

So if I am selling some items, and I wish to converse prices over AIM rather than Graal, I am immediatly selling for USD?

Negative.

skyler87 · #19 07-09-2006, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Zero Hour

So if I am selling some items, and I wish to converse prices over AIM rather than Graal, I am immediatly selling for USD?

Negative.

Then why not discuss them on Graal? Lol

And, just out of question...If admins don't monitor USDing, can I tell someone I'll give them the money after I get the items, take the items, log off, and tell the admin that I paid them when they go whining?

Zero Hour · #20 07-09-2006, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by skyler87

Then why not discuss them on Graal? Lol

Some people do things their own way. You'll concede that because they are selling over AIM doesn't really mean that they're selling USD.

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And, just out of question...If admins don't monitor USDing, can I tell someone I'll give them the money after I get the items, take the items, log off, and tell the admin that I paid them when they go whining?

This is why, as far as I understand, it's illegal to advertise in game that you're selling for USD. The Graal Online rules do not support USDing, so if you're scammed - it's your own business. You're shtuff out of luck, in a manner of speaking.

skyler87 · #21 07-09-2006, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Zero Hour

Some people do things their own way. You'll concede that because they are selling over AIM doesn't really mean that they're selling USD.

Logically, you're right
Realistically, 100% of the cases on GK where people say "selling items over aim", it is in direct correspondence with "USDing".
Logic doesn't always play a part in situations. And if so, then why not base a decision made strictly of probability, such as "No asking for transactions outside of Graal" to avoid most of this?

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Originally Posted by Zero Hour

This is why, as far as I understand, it's illegal to advertise in game that you're selling for USD. The Graal Online rules do not support USDing, so if you're scammed - it's your own business. You're shtuff out of luck, in a manner of speaking.

Lol...I may actually try that then? Or is it against the rules to state that you're going to? Or what?

hampy · #22 07-09-2006, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by skyler87

And, just out of question...If admins don't monitor USDing, can I tell someone I'll give them the money after I get the items, take the items, log off, and tell the admin that I paid them when they go whining?

Go for it, it's their fault for trying to sell their items, if they get scammed the only person they can blame is themself

Devotchkas · #23 07-09-2006, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by hampy

Go for it, it's their fault for trying to sell their items, if they get scammed the only person they can blame is themself

which is the point that its THEIR MONEY and they get to risk it so why care?

hampy · #24 07-09-2006, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by AlaricoMontario

The fact is, even if Graal can't control what happens over AIM, it can control what's on it's servers. What I mean by this is,

While no, you can't pillor/ban someone for AIM USD'ing, you CAN pillor/ban them for attemping it by sending out a mass message saying you're selling on AIM.

Yay, someone understands what i've been trying to say!

KuJi · #25 07-09-2006, 12:09 AM

They ban on Runescape, and they handle it well.

They check for low levels with high equipment, or a lot of money. I guess that can't be done on here soon people buy new accounts. (CUBES :O <3)

But.. there should be something.

Sam · #26 07-09-2006, 12:18 AM

Selling items for real money is not illegal. It's not our business what you are doing with your money. We don't care if you give items for free or sell them for $$.
But if we tolerate deals for real money on graal servers, the players wants us to monitor the deals and restore items or pay back money to scammed players. There are a few more reasons why it's not allowed to announce it, but I think it's clarified now, why we tolerate mass messages containing the phrase "over AIM".

Devotchkas · #27 07-09-2006, 03:32 AM

thats cause Ed knows whats up

which is why i dont rock him like a hurricane
and because my magic does no dammage to him

Moondeath_2 · #28 07-09-2006, 11:57 PM

How on earth do you guys turn this into a flame thread, and go way off topic.

Devotchkas · #29 07-10-2006, 12:19 AM

i just dont see how people who work for their money and have the rights to spend it how they please are ruining a game

i think its more of the people who complain about it that are ruining the game because theyre possiably to lazy to go mow lawns to make some money and have that spare money to spend?

cause i sure do see a lot of you on here since ive been home these past few weeks

Zero Hour · #30 07-10-2006, 01:14 AM

Normally, I would allow this thread to continue on. I don't mind a discussion of these sorts of things. However, I find that they consist mostly of senseless jabs between the parties.

Really not very useful.

I believe that the members of the Graal Kingdoms administration have discussed it as thoroughly as it needs to be discussed - and that any questions which are of significance have been answered.