Question out of curiosity... - Page 2

Googi · #1 06-21-2006, 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Silent

Children play games for fun, and to escape reality - a reality which includes the authority of their parents or guardians. You, Darlene, being a parent yourself, are to them a figure of authority regardless of what power you have within the Graal community. You seem to them to be the big bad demon who demands that those children go to sleep on time every night.

The first part is true. I highly doubt that the second part is. I don't think there's a lot of players who make a connection between age and authority on Graal.

Malinko · #2 06-21-2006, 03:54 AM

GOOGI! U R SO KEWL!

No.

ApothiX · #3 06-21-2006, 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Silent

Children play games for fun, and to escape reality - a reality which includes the authority of their parents or guardians. You, Darlene, being a parent yourself, are to them a figure of authority regardless of what power you have within the Graal community. You seem to them to be the big bad demon who demands that those children go to sleep on time every night.

Pretty much a ripoff of what curt said. PLAGIARISM.

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Originally Posted by Silent

Plus you look a little like a vampire from The Elder Scrolls: Oblivion, but you gain a load of stat and skill bonuses for that.

Haha.

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Originally Posted by Googi

I don't think there's a lot of players who make a connection between age and authority on Graal.

This is true. It is also hard to make a connection between age and maturity on Graal. (See the quote below for an example)

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Originally Posted by Malinko

GOOGI! U R SO KEWL!

No.

Silent · #4 06-21-2006, 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by ApothiX

Pretty much a ripoff of what curt said. PLAGIARISM.

It's easy to forget what was said in the third post after reading through the entire thread. It is for me, anyway. I won't do it again, sir!

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Originally Posted by ApothiX

(See the quote below for an example)

I lol'd

Googi · #5 06-21-2006, 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Malinko

GOOGI! U R SO KEWL!

No.

Hey, wouldn't it be cool if it turned out that Malinko was actually Blade50 or something?

HoudiniMan · #6 06-21-2006, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Googi

The first part is true. I highly doubt that the second part is. I don't think there's a lot of players who make a connection between age and authority on Graal.

I think it's the other way around. Players take an authority figure and make a connection to their age. As Apothix said, he's turning 19 soon, but as PWA I've been criticized more than once for being "too old" to play this game, etc, and I'm 19.

As has been said countless times already, I think it's your attitude that gets you judged into the like/dislike piles. Once you're there, people will say anything if they think it might get to you.

I doubt even a single person has said to their friends outside of the community "Ugh! There is this older player on Graal..." etc

Oh oh, look everyone! Malinko's doing a trick! Oh wait... it's the same trick.

MisterMastermind · #7 06-21-2006, 03:30 AM

People attack other people without any good reason alot. Most of the time we're just kidding.

So few older players and so many jokes at older players. WeAllLuvULongTimeGrandma

Damix2 · #8 06-21-2006, 03:58 AM

Could it be because people don't like your attitude and your age is you most identifiable characteristic?

Skyld · #9 06-21-2006, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159

Please give me honest answers without being hateful. I would really like to know the reasons behind why players have a problem with older adults (or just me) playing.
I have my own theories, but I would rather not voice them, but would rather see if I am correct.

In terms of younger players, I think the media has a lot to do with it. If you think about it, there is always something on the news about pedophilia, and I should imagine that kids around the Internet are often warned by their parents these days to be very weary of such. Children and younger players probably think that they are slightly at risk by being around adults in a game environment which they thought was just for children.

I'm not accusing any adult on GraalOnline of being a pedophile, but I think it is probably a reflex action for kids to display negativity to adults around Graal because they were so regularly warned by parents.

Then again, I am sure that you would do exactly the same to your kids.

Darlene159 · #10 06-21-2006, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Skyld

In terms of younger players, I think the media has a lot to do with it. If you think about it, there is always something on the news about pedophilia, and I should imagine that kids around the Internet are often warned by their parents these days to be very weary of such. Children and younger players probably think that they are slightly at risk by being around adults in a game environment which they thought was just for children.

I'm not accusing any adult on GraalOnline of being a pedophile, but I think it is probably a reflex action for kids to display negativity to adults around Graal because they were so regularly warned by parents.

Then again, I am sure that you would do exactly the same to your kids.

I am slightly suprised that this is the first time this has been mentioned in this thread, and I do agree that kids should always be cautious.
I don't, however, think they should be downright rude and disrespectful.
They should definately be extremely careful as to what information they give out about themselves all the time.
Someone could say they are 13, and be 40. I am sure everyone here realizes that.

Yes, I have taught my kids to be extremely careful on the internet (whether they do or not is a whole different story), but I have also taught them to be respectful towards everyone, regardless of age, race, disability, etc...
Just to be careful as to not give out information about themselves which can be used to find them.

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Originally Posted by Chicken_l33t

I couldnt care about your age, but your personality. Your a bish and you wont admit when you're wrong and you make all these crap rules. If you were 18 or 80 I wouldnt care, but the way you have handled stuff dealing with me has just pissed me right off thus meaning I don't like you one bit and wish you would leave for good.

You use "your powers" far to harshly, but hey since when has my bloody oppinion being a player counted? You do stuff anyway even if you're wrong. MOOO!

I have admitted I was wrong many times.
Also, I have made up no rules at all for Graal, so I don't know where you get that from.

Skyld · #11 06-21-2006, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159

Yes, I have taught my kids to be extremely careful on the internet (whether they do or not is a whole different story), but I have also taught them to be respectful towards everyone, regardless of age, race, disability, etc...
Just to be careful as to not give out information about themselves which can be used to find them.

I am not sure how things are in many places across the world, but here, that teaching of respect and such I think is often neglected by parents. Around here, over 80% of the youths are delinquant and abusive, and I guess those same traits transfer across to online games.

Googi · #12 06-21-2006, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159

Also, I have made up no rules at all for Graal, so I don't know where you get that from.

This is true. Moon Goddess rarely completely creates new rules. Rather, she simply claims that something violates an existing rule when it in fact does not.

-Ching · #13 06-21-2006, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Googi

This is true. Moon Goddess rarely completely creates new rules. Rather, she simply claims that something violates an existing rule when it in fact does not.

Either that or it's people like you that are in the wrong but dont like being told what to do and will never admit that they're wrong. Being young minded is what it's called.

Googi · #14 06-21-2006, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by -Ching

Either that or it's people like you that are in the wrong but dont like being told what to do and will never admit that they're wrong. Being young minded is what it's called.

Obviously it will be deleted if I post about it on the forums. Want me to forum PM you some examples of moderations provably inconsistant with the rules?

Chicken_l33t · #15 06-21-2006, 12:54 PM

I couldnt care about your age, but your personality. Your a bish and you wont admit when you're wrong and you make all these crap rules. If you were 18 or 80 I wouldnt care, but the way you have handled stuff dealing with me has just pissed me right off thus meaning I don't like you one bit and wish you would leave for good.

You use "your powers" far to harshly, but hey since when has my bloody oppinion being a player counted? You do stuff anyway even if you're wrong. MOOO!

Chicken_l33t · #16 06-21-2006, 03:48 PM

Ah, yeh not made up my mistake, but perhaps stretched the meaning of rules to a point where they don't seem like the same rule anymore.

Darlene159 · #17 06-21-2006, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Chicken_l33t

Ah, yeh not made up my mistake, but perhaps stretched the meaning of rules to a point where they don't seem like the same rule anymore.

This thread is not even about the forums, or my position here, or have you not been reading?

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Originally Posted by Skyld

I am not sure how things are in many places across the world, but here, that teaching of respect and such I think is often neglected by parents. Around here, over 80% of the youths are delinquant and abusive, and I guess those same traits transfer across to online games.

It is pretty much the same here, sadly.
I'm not going to say it is the parents fault, because obviously, every situation is different.
All us parents can do is our best, and hope for the best outcome.

ApothiX · #18 06-21-2006, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Silent

It's easy to forget what was said in the third post after reading through the entire thread. It is for me, anyway. I won't do it again, sir!

You are forgiven, my child.

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Originally Posted by Darlene159

It is pretty much the same here, sadly.
I'm not going to say it is the parents fault, because obviously, every situation is different.
All us parents can do is our best, and hope for the best outcome.

The trick is to tell your kids to be disrespectful, and the age-old teenage rebellion will kick in and they will do the exact opposite! Sure-fire plan, never fails.

Darlene159 · #19 06-21-2006, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ApothiX

The trick is to tell your kids to be disrespectful, and the age-old teenage rebellion will kick in and they will do the exact opposite! Sure-fire plan, never fails.

Reverse Phsycology (sp) might work for some things. Teenagers are not stupid, and that will not work.
But, I assume that you already know this.

ApothiX · #20 06-21-2006, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159

Reverse Phsycology (sp) might work for some things. Teenagers are not stupid, and that will not work.
But, I assume that you already know this.

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excaliber7388 · #21 06-21-2006, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159

Reverse Phsycology (sp) might work for some things. Teenagers are not stupid, and that will not work.
But, I assume that you already know this.

Who are you tryin' to fool?

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Zomg!

I have fun being an idiot!

Yeah, you used to be a good PWA, nice person, helpfull.
And then a little problem of yours got in the way.
Projection only works for so long.

excaliber7388 · #22 06-21-2006, 03:58 PM

I will agree with one thing, you can't argue with Darlene, she's always somehow right, and we're too immature to know these things

...
Malinko, you've changed since you bacame the last samurai.
In all honesty and kindness for an old friend, please, get some help.

Malinko · #23 06-21-2006, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by excaliber7388

I will agree with one thing, you can't argue with Darlene, she's always somehow right, and we're too immature to know these things

...
Malinko, you've changed since you bacame the last samurai.
In all honesty and kindness for an old friend, please, get some help.

Zomg!

I have fun being an idiot!

Chicken_l33t · #24 06-21-2006, 04:54 PM

I havent been reading what so ever to be quite honest. I just took an opurtunity to say stuff about you cause I felt like it.

I will admit I read the first post though and the ones after mine.

Hey, I was just saying not everyone dislikes you because of your age. Hell, not everyone dislikes you and don't say players dislike you for your age it's sorta an escape from admitting that some people actually don't like you for who you are and not how old you are.

Darlene159 · #25 06-21-2006, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Chicken_l33t

I havent been reading what so ever to be quite honest. I just took an opurtunity to say stuff about you cause I felt like it.

That was obvious.

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Hey, I was just saying not everyone dislikes you because of your age. Hell, not everyone dislikes you and don't say players dislike you for your age it's sorta an escape from admitting that some people actually don't like you for who you are and not how old you are.

This I know.
I realize that there are people who dislike me for other reason, but that is not the purpose of this particular thread.
The purpose of this thread is to see why players seem to dislike when older adults/parents play Graal, why they harrass them for their age, and so on.
If I am disliked for other reasons, then you have no reason to post in this particular thread.

Infernix · #26 06-21-2006, 09:45 PM

You people shouldnt let some old lady get to you so much, if she ever removes a post of mine I simple post it again or say it in a different way for that it has to same meaning but doesnt say it straight out and direct.

excaliber7388 · #27 06-22-2006, 12:37 AM

There are some things that sould be said here, but I don't feel like being banned.

Mark Sir Link · #28 06-22-2006, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by excaliber7388

There are some things that sould be said here, but I don't feel like being banned.

Another illiterate post brought to you by Excaliber.

Draenin · #29 06-22-2006, 12:57 AM

He only left out an 'h'.

excaliber7388 · #30 06-22-2006, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Draenin

He only left out an 'h'.

Oh no, I have commited a sin! How foolish could I be? A TYPO?!
GOD MAY STRIKE ME DOWN!
Or it could be the fact that my brand new keyboard just lost a key, making it hard to type. Still, very hell worthy

Darlene159 · #31 06-22-2006, 01:01 AM

I am very disappointed in some of the members of these forums. I mean, I start a thread about a certain thing, and some of you turn it into something else, attack other members, use it as a way to attack me, etc...

This thread was for a specific purpose, which I am not even going to bother to explain again.
I do thank those who actually supplied an answer to the question, and who did not use it as an excuse to flame me, or used someone elses post to flame another member.

ApothiX · #32 06-22-2006, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Gerami

I thought it was an irl thing. o.o

Nah, that was another one of his elaborate lies. Also featured in that lie is the modification of Kara's age. I believe he went around telling people that she is 18 or 19.

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Originally Posted by Darlene159

I am very disappointed in some of the members of these forums. I mean, I start a thread about a certain thing, and some of you turn it into something else, attack other members, use it as a way to attack me, etc...

This thread was for a specific purpose, which I am not even going to bother to explain again.
I do thank those who actually supplied an answer to the question, and who did not use it as an excuse to flame me, or used someone elses post to flame another member.

IMO, you asked for it when you made a thread with the topic "y r ppl h8'n on me?!"

Darlene159 · #33 06-22-2006, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ApothiX

IMO, you asked for it when you made a thread with the topic "y r ppl h8'n on me?!"

that WAS NOT the question.

ApothiX · #34 06-22-2006, 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159

that WAS NOT the question.

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Originally Posted by Darlene159

After playing and working for Graal for a long period of time, a lot of people have been really negative about me playing Graal because of my age, and the fact that I am a parent in real life. This has been going on since the beginning of my playing Graal, so it is not because of my being an admin on the forums, or being a Manager of a PW.

I am really curious as to why players feel this way, and if there are any other older adults that play that receive the same treatment.

If that wasn't your intention, then don't fill your post with personal pronouns and ask why players are treating you that way. The reason I bolded an underlined the 'and' is because you are signifying that that is additional feedback that you would like from people, and not your main point.

Darlene159 · #35 06-22-2006, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ApothiX

If that wasn't your intention, then don't fill your post with personal pronouns and ask why players are treating you that way. The reason I bolded an underlined the 'and' is because you are signifying that that is additional feedback that you would like from people, and not your main point.

Pay close attention to the age reference in that post.
I dont want to know why people hate me, I did not ask that.
I asked why some members have a problem with my AGE, or other peoples AGE.

Crono · #36 06-22-2006, 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ApothiX

Nah, that was another one of his elaborate lies. Also featured in that lie is the modification of Kara's age. I believe he went around telling people that she is 18 or 19.

He told me he had a countach :'[

Draenin · #37 06-22-2006, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by excaliber7388

Oh no, I have commited a sin! How foolish could I be? A TYPO?!
GOD MAY STRIKE ME DOWN!
Or it could be the fact that my brand new keyboard just lost a key, making it hard to type. Still, very hell worthy

Uh. Why did you quote me? I'm not the one calling you illiterate.

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Originally Posted by Darlene159

I do thank those who actually supplied an answer to the question, and who did not use it as an excuse to flame me, or used someone elses post to flame another member.

No biggie.

excaliber7388 · #38 06-22-2006, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Draenin

Uh. Why did you quote me? I'm not the one calling you illiterate.

Sorry, I was using your quote to back me up. Should have made that more clear XD

Chicken_l33t · #39 06-22-2006, 05:50 AM

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I realize that there are people who dislike me for other reason, but that is not the purpose of this particular thread.
The purpose of this thread is to see why players seem to dislike when older adults/parents play Graal, why they harrass them for their age, and so on.
If I am disliked for other reasons, then you have no reason to post in this particular thread.

lol you shutup I have every right to post here. Why? Cause I damn well feel like it. You see there's others that are more off topic then me here yet you come to me first because it was directed at you.

Perhaps they think all old people act like you act and that's why they don't like you. Perhaps it's because they come on the internet/games to get away from adults and escape reality and you bring back some sense of it back into the game?

Eagle · #40 06-22-2006, 09:06 AM

Darlene, I think people use your age as an excuse to let you know about other reasons why they dislike you. I highly doubt it is solely because you're older than everybody else. So yeah, I agree with the people who said things like that.

Houdini, I also doubt people hate you for age, but rather how you act in-game.

Also, Darlene, didn't you have a daughter that played Graal (Princess-something)? Just wondering.