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Old 11-15-2005, 07:06 AM
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And you're wrong.

I play Kingdoms daily, I know what goes on. I've been around since the beginning of Kingdoms, never been scammed, never had issues...except that one time my Ring of Strife was pwned by the server and Lance helped me. Oh gosh a staffer on Kingdoms helped somebody!~?

Crying about scamming means you got tricked into handing somebody your items. Unless they abused a table bug, it's 9 times out of 10 your fault.

Getting hacked? Again, 9 times out of 10 you downloaded a keylogger, your fault. The exceptions are of course acts like the recent event with Velox's very beautiful abuse of human stupidity....I mean lucky guesses... . Hell I've been hacked once, and I wasn't really hacked, somebody recreated my hotmail account during the time where hotmail deleted your account if you didn't visit it after so long, and requested a password change.
A: I didnt say ALL staff said To bad, so sad.
B: Who hasnt been scammed someway even when they were a n00b. and now days theres most likely always one scammer on.
C: Those scammers get away with most the stuff they do.
D: Theres also the fact that a Virus can start opeing stuff up makign it easier to hack in
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Old 11-15-2005, 07:10 AM
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A: I didnt say ALL staff said To bad, so sad.
You said most. So far, you've stated Zero Hour and Bjorn saying this. They are not most staff. Phail'd.

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B: Who hasnt been scammed someway even when they were a n00b. and now days theres most likely always one scammer on.
I've never been scammed, and I come from the era of the best scammers known. Phail'd.

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C: Those scammers get away with most the stuff they do.
They get away with it for the reason I stated. 9 Times out of 10 it's the scammed person's fault. Phail'd.

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D: Theres also the fact that a Virus can start opeing stuff up makign it easier to hack in
How does one get a virus? By not having virus protection? Open a file with a virus? All actions, your fault. Phail'd.

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Old 11-15-2005, 06:57 AM
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Also, if ZH didn't care about the players, that probably made him a better GP. You can't be an effective man of the law if you're making friends with everyone and letting things slide.
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Old 11-15-2005, 07:01 AM
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Also, if ZH didn't care about the players, that probably made him a better GP. You can't be an effective man of the law if you're making friends with everyone and letting things slide.
but thats the thing.. He let people slide anyways. I'm nto saying the GP has to be buddy buddy with everyone, but I'm sayign he doesnt have to be a closet case.
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Old 11-15-2005, 07:11 AM
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Perhaps we should lock this before it gets any worse? We've all made our points and theres no reason to go any further.
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Old 11-15-2005, 07:12 AM
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Perhaps we should lock this before it gets any worse? We've all made our points and theres no reason to go any further.
Yeah, I agree. Topic shouldn't exist in the first place. I'm only here really to defend "most" staff.
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Old 11-15-2005, 07:16 AM
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Perhaps we should lock this before it gets any worse? We've all made our points and theres no reason to go any further.
Well.. Steven has a point.

All I have to say is...
It may have been their fault (and I am a heavy music downlaoder.. nto technically my fault I get viruses people attach to Songs)
but they should at lease get their item/items back.

Reasons for most people quitting Graal:
1. Sick of scammers
2. Sick of some of the staff beign Currupt
3. Got bored
4. Sick fo the way things work on the server.. which.. in turn.. points at the staff.
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Old 11-15-2005, 07:39 AM
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I haven't noticed a decline in playercount lately, actually the oppisite.
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Old 11-15-2005, 07:54 AM
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Well, I disagree with ZH being a good police simply because he does not care..
All the oldbies will disagree cause they dont really get scammed, they have been around too long to fall for tricks.
I see tons of new players becomming victims of scammers and when they ask for help..they usually get a smack in the face in return. A good GP would be someone who cares about all graal players, not just the rich ones and friends z.z

And not caring does not make a better GP, if someone cannot be nice and follow the rules they have no will..thats another thing the GP needs..

And yeah, I have seen many people leave Graal due to the Staff, But the #1 reason I would say is cause its one of the least newbie friendly games I have ever seen. Most people who start get frusterated when the only thing they can kill is a shell bommy IF someone is nice enough to give them a weapon and armour..

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Yeah, but nobody does anything about scammers.
Exactly

Which is Why I think Somoene who wants to do something about them should be GP

And yeah. I was told that Scamming is part of GK, hah..and to back it up this particular staff member used the class "Theif" as an example of it.

I think thats so rediculous..but oh well..argueing with that particular person has never lead to anything in the past

This post was started to help things, yet its turned a verbal battle like every other thread created intending to do good. When someone post a thread to try to change/help things..why do you people insist on bashing them..Post you're opinion on the topic..not the person who started it..
No good comes from everyone argueing

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Old 11-15-2005, 08:09 AM
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Arrow We don't hire GP

We don't hire any new GP staff in near future. The currently system (Admin Team takes a look on troublemakers) works good, and if there is a bigger problem you can use the support center.
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Old 11-15-2005, 08:12 AM
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We don't hire any new GP staff in near future. The currently system (Admin Team takes a look on troublemakers) works good, and if there is a bigger problem you can use the support center.

Sam, I don't like to be a pest..but I understand you guys think it works good..but alot of people don't..and I can never understand why that does not mean anything to you guys

Also, I don't quite understand what you mean by "We don't hire any new GP staff in near future."
The current GP Zerohour has quit. Does that not mean there is need of a new one?
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Old 11-15-2005, 04:47 PM
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We don't hire any new GP staff in near future. The currently system (Admin Team takes a look on troublemakers) works good, and if there is a bigger problem you can use the support center.
...And with that, the thread will be closed. (For those who have not read the forum rules...Do not recreate the thread).
I am sure when/if they decide to hire a gp, it will be announced.
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Old 11-15-2005, 08:39 AM
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Though... the current system is a little slow and offers less immediate support to those that don't live in Europe.
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Old 11-15-2005, 01:14 PM
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Old 11-15-2005, 01:32 PM
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