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Old 11-07-2005, 09:36 PM
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He's breaking one of the 3 CMU act. Is CJ going to be taking legal actions?
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Old 11-07-2005, 09:39 PM
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He's breaking one of the 3 CMU act. Is CJ going to be taking legal actions?
I don't think CJ can.
He didn't actually "hack" anything.
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Old 11-07-2005, 09:53 PM
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I don't think CJ can.
He didn't actually "hack" anything.
One could almost argue that it was the player's fault.
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Old 11-07-2005, 10:15 PM
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One could almost argue that it was the player's fault.
It partly was.
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Old 11-07-2005, 10:18 PM
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It partly was.
Not directly.

It's not like Graalians.com was saying "Hey, if you register to this site, then we'll steal your personal details and/or Graal account/money!" upon registration.

And as most people have established, it wasn't the expected thing to happen, despite the probability that it could happen.
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Old 11-07-2005, 09:50 PM
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Unauthorised access with intent to commit or facilitate commission of further offences
This builds on the previous offence. The key here is the addition of ‘intent to commit...further offences’. It therefore includes guessing or stealing a password, and using that to access, say another person’s on-line bank account and transferring their money to another account. For this offence the penalty is up to five years’ imprisonment and/or a fine.
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We're all not aware of the computer dangers Emily.
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Old 11-11-2005, 05:08 AM
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To all of those who told me I was wrong about their email being hacked. Hi!
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To all of those who told me I was wrong about their email being hacked. Hi!
Well, it hasn't been hacked, more like phished. Or just stolen.
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Old 11-07-2005, 09:58 PM
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I had $450 USD taken from my PayPal account. Is it possible that this is linked?
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Did you register on Velox's website?
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Your right, this may be a first time for something bad like this to happen to those listed, but i do hope they take this as a lesson to learn and use more care in the future.
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Old 11-07-2005, 10:04 PM
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Indeed it is.

Also, Emily, I take great care in where I register. Graalians.com seemed like a legitimate place to go.
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Then the chances of the two being related are high.
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Then yes, if you don't have a clue where it's gone.
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Seems like I found out where my money went, then. I'll inform PayPal and the authorities, but I'm sure they won't do crap.
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Graalians.com was actually a pretty good site.
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Sorry Tupper.
<3 Not your fault at all. I'm actually not that angry at anyone, but mind you, if I speak to Velchox or whatever his name is again, I'm not going to be too passive about it
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<3 Not your fault at all. I'm actually not that angry at anyone, but mind you, if I speak to Velchox or whatever his name is again, I'm not going to be too passive about it
He hasn't been seen since. Goodluck trying to contact him.
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Graalians.com wasn't a bad site. In fact, I thought it would probably get big. It sort of did, but for all the wrong reasons. They were reasons not made clear to the public. The website was not run by a legitimate individual, rather than hacked into or otherwise, so his methods were unethical. Stealing accounts through methods like that and using Paypal accounts to send money to himself is illegal, if I am not mistaken. Whether or not I advise you all to take any sort of action upon it, though, is completely up to you.
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Old 11-08-2005, 12:46 AM
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It also seems that VC had 'wrong' password attempts logged, as some people who did not have their actual password stored there still had their accounts stolen (some people may have tried logging into graalians.com with their normal password by force of habit).
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Old 11-08-2005, 12:53 AM
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heck.. I almost feel like not *ing my Yahoo! Mail password. That password has been in existence since my first computer when I was 10.
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Old 11-08-2005, 02:49 AM
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I used my gmail for this site, my graal account is on a hotmail, which is uberleetly passworded, with a no relation to oasator, which has my kittens. Use different passwords on dif sites, heh I rule.
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Stefan, are you going to, or have you already contacted paypal in support of Graal Online users?
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Old 11-08-2005, 03:22 AM
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Stefan, are you going to, or have you already contacted paypal in support of Graal Online users?
I hope so. I hear the total is around 1,100 USD now.
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I hope so. I hear the total is around 1,100 USD now.
Holy crap. I hope legal action is going to be taken?
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Velox has already contacted Paypal and is attempting to contact the two people who he stole money from.
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That's not what I asked. I asked if Stefan (or I suppose another representative of Graal Online) had contacted paypal in support of it's users.

Don't take this as me being rude, I'm not trying to be rude. Thanks.
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Old 11-08-2005, 06:00 AM
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Velox has already contacted Paypal and is attempting to contact the two people who he stole money from.
Yea someone suggested that to him in gscript, Napo I think.
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Old 11-08-2005, 06:04 AM
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Velox has already contacted Paypal and is attempting to contact the two people who he stole money from.
He already spoke to me, and I've informed PayPal of the situation
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Wow, two threads collided, and coherence was the fatality.
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Any hard providence is going to be taken, Stefan ? Otherwise this will never stop.
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It already stopped.
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It already stopped.
Yes, it already stopped.
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Yes, it already stopped.
I was referring to how the "hacking" had already stopped. Not that it makes a difference since that thread was made three hours before your post.
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