GK .. Need I say more?..

[Nappa]

Of course I don't like aki, zoe, or wren any better then Nayoko. I hate you all. Meh, I can't hit any of the other ones then nayoko. Well I can barely hit anyone now that I, ahem, "Gave away" my items.

[Amagius]

Originally Posted by ZalleWarriorPrincess

GK needs to change.. It's not fun anymore.. its more stressful and fustrating. Especialy when it comes to the people. Instead of being nice and being friends.. people harrass, scam, steal, and insult everyone. I remember when we could do trades and be idle without worrying on people pking you.

Also it seems like everyone, alot of people decide they have to be the best and the highest so they find every bug/glitch possible or abuse powers so they can be. It's very fustrating for me when I don't cheat or use any glitches or bugs and it takes forever to level and you see those who do are able to kill you instantly because of their cheated stats.

Then when some of us try to stop all the cheating and all the corruption we get harrassed and pked and insulted.

I'd quit if It wasn't for friends and people I like to talk to. Why can't people just be nice and stop all this BS. Why does a game have to be stressing? Why do we have to be suffering from the people who cheat and they don't get punished at all. We need staff who can do things like that.. We also need to get back to the way GK is supposed to be, a RP Environment.

To bypass the meandering subject, I'll just say it.

IT TOOK YOU THIS DAMN LONG TO FIGURE IT OUT?! I SHOULD SLAP YOU FOR THE AMOUNT OF TIME IT TOOK YOU TO COME TO THIS.

[Monkeyboy_McGee]

*Cough i have a cold Cough*

[Splke]

Originally Posted by Monkeyboy_McGee

*Cough i have a cold Cough*

*highfives*

Originally Posted by foxyrain

I remember that is why Tec finally quit the game because he was tired of the false accusations.

Tec quit because me, Sliq, Waterlord, Bosh, and NY tortured him for having ****ing horrible grammar.

edit: Vamp, Mike, and afew other's helped out as well


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Pertainning to this entire thread, -shrug-. I know basically everything that happens, exception being people's level's now adays. It's the same thing that has -always- happened, and always will so long as children are staff.

Now, I cannot say that I myself have seen Jagen make items for somebody if they a) did not deserve them (restore) or b) did not earn them. I have heard only rumors, nothing factual holding these rumors up.

People power-level, I can imagine people in Dustari give Zoe 10-20 bruts just to EA their gear... so, you can see how they would get brutals.

In regard's to the stacked maps? Simple, give Jagen a ****ing HUGE pile of immenses/brutals, he'll exchange them with stacked ones. It's simple.

Let's try to only say things that can be proven, or have some factual background. These rumors, and bashings are out of hand. It's threads like these that make GK stressful to play...


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On another note, Reiko, were you not chasing me down and pking me yesterday while I was trying to catch up with Ana? Hmm, how hypocritical.

[meishanli]

Originally Posted by Gambet

The time you use speaking with huru and aki, you could use to be improving the server. Why do i mention huru and aki? (nothing against them of course), well, simply because they seem to "magically" get items, and with that, i end my post.

What items?
To Huru: Don't have to explain what in your inv, it's none of his buisness, let him think what he wants. O.o

Originally Posted by Gambet

*cough When i went inside one of them Jagen said he would leave Zormite (i was in Dustari so he couldnt kill me) and he was going to PK me with his sword which gives him 32032 damage, and i also have a screenie of his profile showing that amount of damage cough*

Ummm he is staff you know, isn't illegal to have that damage? o.0

Originally Posted by Splke

Let's try to only say things that can be proven, or have some factual background. These rumors, and bashings are out of hand. It's threads like these that make GK stressful to play....

What more can be said?

Originally Posted by Splke

On another note, Reiko, were you not chasing me down and pking me yesterday while I was trying to catch up with Ana? Hmm, how hypocritical.

Wow she only PKs people with no items.
Poor Argo.

Blah, I can't be bother quoting all. Buut like I said, it was mainly bashing at Zoe, Wren and Sagesuns. Ah well it's a game, enjoy it. Even though there's tons of bashing/rumours, I'm not going to sit on my comp arguing about it all day. I did pay for my game, don't want to waste my cash on net verbal arguements. So much drama to be a player, can't imagine how Lance/Jagen/Loriel feel.
Ah well, ce la vie!

[Gambet]

Originally Posted by meishanli

Ummm he is staff you know, isn't illegal to have that damage? o.0

You think it's legal to give yourself that much damage and then go around trying to pk players? It's called corruption, aki.

To the note that you quoted what the other guy said about lets base things on what we can proove:

Can you not read what i said? I have screenies and ive already sent them to a few people. I would post it on the forums but Jagen would have them removed just because he doesnt want the players to know how corrupt he is.

[Gambet]

Harrassment:
To irritate or torment persistently.


As you can see, i only posted once, meaning im not harrassing and its not close to it. Please, learn your definitions before you decide to use specific words.

How are we (us players) suppose to know what rights you have? You're using the fact that you dont have the rights as an excuse, well, that isnt an excuse at all. First reason, is that us players dont know what rights you have, so your comment about your rights is irrelevant to what im exclaiming. Secondly, you dont need to have every right to do anything. You can simply do things, then submit them to Stefan so he can upload. If you need a level right, then have Stefan give you rights to it, or have him send you the level, you work on it, then you send it back and he uploads. Saying that you dont have enough rights to fix things like bugs or errors or to improve a few things is NEVER AN ISSUE. How do you think normal servers are handled?, what, you actually think everyone gets level 4 rc? Personally, from what you say, you're taking the lazy way out of it. There is no excuse at all, so stop randomly choosing some.

"Where theres a will, theres a way."

Remember that.

[Python523]

Originally Posted by Gambet

Harrassment:
To irritate or torment persistently.


As you can see, i only posted once, meaning im not harrassing and its not close to it. Please, learn your definitions before you decide to use specific words.

How are we (us players) suppose to know what rights you have? You're using the fact that you dont have the rights as an excuse, well, that isnt an excuse at all. First reason, is that us players dont know what rights you have, so your comment about your rights is irrelevant to what im exclaiming. Secondly, you dont need to have every right to do anything. You can simply do things, then submit them to Stefan so he can upload. If you need a level right, then have Stefan give you rights to it, or have him send you the level, you work on it, then you send it back and he uploads. Saying that you dont have enough rights to fix things like bugs or errors or to improve a few things is NEVER AN ISSUE. How do you think normal servers are handled?, what, you actually think everyone gets level 4 rc? Personally, from what you say, you're taking the lazy way out of it. There is no excuse at all, so stop randomly choosing some.

"Where theres a will, theres a way."

Remember that.

Do you know ANYTHING about the 2k2 system? It is NOT a normal system with NPCs. There is a mudlib extention to the NPC Server that handles all the stats, item managements, player accounts, and a lot more. It is obviously not coded in graal script. I do not have access to the source. Therefore, there are no "rights" to give. Stefan is also rather busy latel. Therefore, there is no one to fix the bugs. Do you see the pattern?

You obviously don't know what rights I have. However, that doesn't excuse you from blindly accusing me of doing nothing. You do not have access to debug. You do not know what goes on. You do not have ANY right to make ANY assumptions. You do not know what I do when I'm on RC. Stop acting like you magically know everything.

[Gambet]

Originally Posted by Python523

You obviously don't know what rights I have. However, that doesn't excuse you from blindly accusing me of doing nothing. You do not have access to debug. You do not know what goes on. You do not have ANY right to make ANY assumptions. You do not know what I do when I'm on RC. Stop acting like you magically know everything.

I do know that you and Malinko are talking trash about me right now on Debug RC.And yes, I know i dont have access to Debug, Jon. I'm not accusing you of not doing anything, im saying that GK isnt being controled properly and everything is ran poorly. I dont know what rights you have, and i dont care. But, if you really cared about GK, then you could speak with Stefan or leave him a note to improve on a few things.

[Python523]

Originally Posted by Gambet

I do know that you and Malinko are talking trash about me right now on Debug RC.And yes, I know i dont have access to Debug, Jon. I'm not accusing you of not doing anything, im saying that GK isnt being controled properly and everything is ran poorly. I dont know what rights you have, and i dont care. But, if you really cared about GK, then you could speak with Stefan or leave him a note to improve on a few things.

And that is relavent, how? We were only discussing your scripts, which have absolutely no relavence to this topic. Tell whoever is leaking you logs to stop or Nay-I mean, their access could be terminated

We do tell Stefan to fix bugs, more often than not he is too busy to actually fix them. Please stop accusing me of things.

[Gambet]

Originally Posted by Python523

And that is relavent, how? We were only discussing your scripts, which have absolutely no relavence to this topic. Tell whoever is leaking you logs to stop or Nay-I mean, their access could be terminated

We do tell Stefan to fix bugs, more often than not he is too busy to actually fix them. Please stop accusing me of things.

Actually, Malinko himself admitted he was talking trash. This has nothing to do with "Nay". Looks like you're accusing people also, Jon. How about you stop complaining about being accused when infact you're accusing yourself. Oh, and i wasnt accusing you of anything in that post, so instead of saying the same thing each post, why dont you just think of something else to post or dont post at all.

Oh, and to the comment where you laugh at the fact that people take screenies of you being corrupt, well, guess what, we laugh at you also. Im sure Stefan would have a good laugh if he saw the screenies, then again, he might actually take the issue more seriously then you think it is?

[TeRRi2k]

Originally Posted by Gambet

The time you use speaking with huru and aki, you could use to be improving the server. Why do i mention huru and aki? (nothing against them of course), well, simply because they seem to "magically" get items, and with that, i end my post.

What items? If there was anything at all, it's either gone or taken away now. If you're talking about brutals, I didn't get those from Jagen, nor any staff. If you want to know, go find out for yourself or ask "nay", she knows pretty well. Stacked ones been floating around the server before I even came back to Graal, and I certainly know a whole LIST of people who has them, names would not be mentioned though. *cough real cold cough* All my gear I had before I quit basically. With the exception of items being EAed or other gear that I traded or received from friend <3 ana.. gloves of Marks/helm I had before quitting. RDA i won like 2 years ago. It's blah enough that jagen uses createitem in the public sometimes to either 1)make stuff for who knows what 2) restoring and I happen to be there, so people go and take screenshots and then we both get framed. *sigh*

I wish you wouldn't be telling him what to do with his time. His life isn't bound to graal >_> Staff like Lance/Ben/Jagen, they don't even get paid, yet they still stay even though they have to deal with slander and disatisfaction from people. If you're dying to see some change, join debug or something, that's the best way to have your voice and ideas heard.

[Taharu]

and once again with another post. im sorry these are so long but i have been playing graal for longer then any of the people involved in this. the way i see it is. i just hit lvl 60 this morning. grant it i dont level all the time because when im on i usually try to socially to keep the game friendly. but it does take long to level unless u prepare and have the proper supplies. there are some amazing things going on like the dark sakura girl (nothing against her because she is definately working it out with the leveling ) but she has gained her levels quickly. and she is always outside of hirathia. her purpose i dont know im ot going to accuse her of anything because when i go there sometimes she normally says how she has to run to another map location and i quote "you are really lucky or something because my maps are all over" that was in response to me saying how i had a few. (4 to be exact) brutals in hirathia. naturally everytime i came out the map she was still in hirathia below the planting pit . but once again im not pointing no fingers. its just a matter of life. sakura did say she was borrowing Huru's marks. and borrowing items has never been a sin. everytime i come back (except for htis last time) i find myself borrowing items to get back onto my feet. and Sakura also said this isnt her first account and i definately know about getting items transferred over (without staff help) because i have had to do it myself. now as far as being someone else which she is often accused of its quite possible. but no one will be able to find out because some people are blessed to have a proxy ip address (which i need myself cause hackers are scareh! )


now as far as gambet. i must agree that before alot of new things are added the old things should be completed....HINCE ALCHEMY. alchemy has been here forever. it is not nothing new. it is old. older then gods older then alot of things. u were around for random alchemy. when they took that away i almost cried =(. [off topic: my house died in samurai with all my random alchemy items. which it didnt cause now pmop sell for like uber items and i had 3 in my house and a couple of scale mails as well as two mithrils (one which actually sold for plat)] that was back during boukon ages if anyone remember that time period when my house was lost. but ya. alchemy is done. hopefully the next Old thing to be completed will be gods. but that is just wishful thinking because brigid is missing most of her spells and her resistances dont work and so forth. but ya. u know im not going to get into that.

but ya i do think. they could stand to have a few more admins on GK. because Jagen and Ben are there by themselves and both of them have alot to do as far as scripting. maybe they shouldnt even be like an admin. maybe more of a person like customer server. or human resources. that specifies on some of the topics at hand in this thread. such as harrassment. lost items. restoration of items and creation of iteems. it seems logical. someone to take the stress off of staffs hands simply because they have so much to do already. but on that same note. that would be alot cause i could imagine the power falling into the wrong hands. becoming an issue of extreme proportions. more items on the server and so forth. but that is more so an issue for stefan. i suggested something similar before to him on GK itself and he said it was a good idea but it never was followed up on and when ever u pm him he hits with the "Forum PM me please." which is another reason on its on to have like a human resource position on here. i couldnt imagine. alot less stressful. simply because when someone was scammed they could get to the bottom of it quickly and efficiently. NPC ate an item. bam they are right there to prove it and help you out. he he he. i like the sound of the person already. (thats just an idea for all you staff0rz on GK.)

[Brad]

all about the benjamins

[Projectshifter]

Hmm... I do believe you have level4 on Debug yes Jon? Or at least full NC or so. And you seem to express that everything is done in the mudlib. GScript is still the medium between the client and the server, everything has to be broken down into something readable by the client at some point =/ There are still many things that can be done without at, as we've all done and seen before