Era Hotel (New Owner?)

[DuBsTeRmAn]

Hi..

I really think Era Hotel should get a new owner, Or atleast get better staff.
I just checked the list of the rooms and i saw many rooms were free, And i never see any Hotel staff online..
(I also tought they would have a room service or whatever)

Bold = Free
Line = Will be free today

Pretty bad that there are soo many free rooms, they should have been rented already but there never is any staff.. The last owner (Hit's brother) was doing much better..

Room # - Owner - Time left

Room: 1 - Owner: LiLjohn2 - Time left: 0 days, 9 hrs.
Room: 2 - Owner: - Time left: Available
Room: 3 - Owner: Graal716237 - Time left: 11 days, 13 hrs.
Room: 4 - Owner: Graal689031 - Time left: 3 days, 9 hrs.
Room: 5 - Owner: Radsov - Time left: 2 days, 18 hrs.
Room: 6 - Owner: - Time left: Available
Room: 7 - Owner: ArCaNgEl12 - Time left: 1 days, 15 hrs.
Room: 8 - Owner: ducklegion - Time left: 15 days, 10 hrs.
Room: 9 - Owner: mathieu123 - Time left: 2 days, 20 hrs.
Room: 10 - Owner: - Time left: Available
Room: 11 - Owner: - Time left: Available
Room: 12 - Owner: Graal709977 - Time left: 14 days, 6 hrs.
Room: 13 - Owner: - Time left: Available
Room: 14 - Owner: chevelier - Time left: 0 days, 13 hrs.
Room: 15 - Owner: Graal680941 - Time left: 3 days, 16 hrs.
Room: 16 - Owner: Graal735465 - Time left: 2 days, 20 hrs.
Room: 17 - Owner: OtaconReturns - Time left: 13 days, 20 hrs.
Room: 18 - Owner: Xelnaga - Time left: 34 days, 0 hrs.
Room: 19 - Owner: DuBsTeRmAn - Time left: 1 days, 13 hrs.
Room: 20 - Owner: cbkbud - Time left: 10 days, 0 hrs.
Room: 21 - Owner: - Time left: Available

[DuBsTeRmAn]

EDIT: I just want to buy this penthouse, But i can't because there never is staff online.

[CharlieM]

I think nas was away for a few days

[Elizabeth]

well he kind of did pay a lot of money for the hotel and did win the auction, if they took it away wouldn't it be scamming?

[LordSquirt]

Originally Posted by Elizabeth

well he kind of did pay a lot of money for the hotel and did win the auction, if they took it away wouldn't it be scamming?

You're getting confused with Zero. He won the hotel in the auction, but then he said he was too busy to continue, so he gave it to Nas.

[Elizabeth]

Originally Posted by LordSquirt

You're getting confused with Zero. He won the hotel in the auction, but then he said he was too busy to continue, so he gave it to Nas.

ahhh okay, nevermind.



elizabeth4owner

[DuBsTeRmAn]

Anyone but Nas.. Sorry to Nas if you take this wrong, But he already got soo many things (Asst. ETA, Gangs, ALOT) and other people also deserve a chance..

[BlueMelon]

hes not asst eta and is not a leader on any gang o.O

[Thanatoses]

Even if Nas was not the buyer of the hotel, it was bought and he inherited it. Stripping it from him would indeed be scamming all the same. Zero bought the business to do whatever he wished with, he handed it and that right down to Nas. If you're going to take it from him, he's going to need heavy compensation and you'll need to discuss that with him.

I could careless about Nas, but those are the legalities of it, incase you forgot, Squirt. Something you seem to often do.

[DuBsTeRmAn]

He was..

[Donark]

Originally Posted by LordSquirt

You're getting confused with Zero. He won the hotel in the auction, but then he said he was too busy to continue, so he gave it to Nas.

No zero gave it to hit then hit sold it to nas for a shipka

[cbk1994]

It is not scamming to remove an owner from a business if they cannot continue to run that business, no matter how much that player paid. When Daz see's this thread, I'm sure he'll respond, so until then, hold tight.

[salesman]

Originally Posted by Thanatoses

Even if Nas was not the buyer of the hotel, it was bought and he inherited it. Stripping it from him would indeed be scamming all the same. Zero bought the business to do whatever he wished with, he handed it and that right down to Nas. If you're going to take it from him, he's going to need heavy compensation and you'll need to discuss that with him.

I could careless about Nas, but those are the legalities of it, incase you forgot, Squirt. Something you seem to often do.

Please tell me you're kidding...

[Thanatoses]

You initially should've allowed Daz to answer this, seeing as that was useless.

Nas is not in a permanent state, obvioisly he has a reason for his absence hence it'd be needed to speak with him before doing whatever. The quickest action is almost never the right one, Jr.

Daz is looking for you by the way, the Bounty Hunter ordeal.

[LordSquirt]

Originally Posted by Thanatoses

Even if Nas was not the buyer of the hotel, it was bought and he inherited it. Stripping it from him would indeed be scamming all the same. Zero bought the business to do whatever he wished with, he handed it and that right down to Nas. If you're going to take it from him, he's going to need heavy compensation and you'll need to discuss that with him.

I could careless about Nas, but those are the legalities of it, incase you forgot, Squirt. Something you seem to often do.

Totally untrue. When Zero purchased the hotel we told him before hand that if he got active for whatever or failed to do his duties properly he would have been removed. Just because he purchased the hotel that does not mean he can ignore his responsibilities.

You can even compare this to in real life if you want. You can buy out another company, however, if you fail to do anything with the company then it would in turn fail and you would lose your business since you're unable to keep up with the prices for rent, workers, machines, etc

[Pelikano]

Why would anyone want a room in the hotel?

Oh and why does Chris think he's Dev Admin, Biz Admin, Gun Admin, Gang Admin, Player Relations Admin, GP Admin and FAQ Admin?

[Pelikano]

Originally Posted by LordSquirt

Totally untrue. When Zero purchased the hotel we told him before hand that if he got active for whatever or failed to do his duties properly he would have been removed. Just because he purchased the hotel that does not mean he can ignore his responsibilities.

You can even compare this to in real life if you want. You can buy out another company, however, if you fail to do anything with the company then it would in turn fail and you would lose your business since you're unable to keep up with the prices for rent, workers, machines, etc

But no one takes it away from you :]
And no one else gets it :]

[CharlieM]

In real life if you have a buisness and you dont do anything with it then your staff should be able to run it while your gone, and you wouldn't lose it right away it would go into a dormant factor because the only way you can forget about your buisness is if you have no expenditures.

[Tim_Rocks]

Originally Posted by CharlieM

In real life if you have a buisness and you dont do anything with it then your staff should be able to run it while your gone, and you wouldn't lose it right away it would go into a dormant factor because the only way you can forget about your buisness is if you have no expenditures.

I would just like to comment on one thing you said, you said the staff would run it which is the Era hotel staff correct? Well from what I was told yesterday is that there is only one employee who books rooms and he said that he hasn't been paid once and Nas just walks in out of no where and takes all the money... Now if that's true, It can't be good for Nas. Because what I got from what he said is that Nas isn't active and just shows up and takes all the profits when he does nothing... Hopefully this player gets paid because I was hanging out in the level watching him book rooms for players and basically right now he's doing it for free, which isn't right.. So hopefully he will get paid.. In the mean time I guess we wait for Daz to get on..

Originally Posted by Pelikano

Why would anyone want a room in the hotel?

Oh and why does Chris think he's Dev Admin, Biz Admin, Gun Admin, Gang Admin, Player Relations Admin, GP Admin and FAQ Admin?

I would say some one would want a hotel room because maybe they don't have 500k to pay for their very own house, so they compromise and instead of spending 500k they can buy a nice gun and rent a hotel room...

As for this, Chris helps out a lot on Era and right now he is the Dev Admin, but this rank shouldn't prevent you from doing more than you can do. As far as Chris goes he's really good at what he does and sometimes he has time to spare, so why can't he help out a little more if he is more than willing to help out?

-Tim_Rocks

[Frankie]

Originally Posted by Tim_Rocks

As for this, Chris helps out a lot on Era and right now he is the Dev Admin, but this rank shouldn't prevent you from doing more than you can do. As far as Chris goes he's really good at what he does and sometimes he has time to spare, so why can't he help out a little more if he is more than willing to help out?

because majority of the times he's not really helping, just interfering. that's how I see it anyway. but I've recently been gaining a lot more respect for him so I won't assume these things as facts.

[Thanatoses]

Aside from what Frankie said which I agree with. That is not his job, you can't impose on someone else's domain because you assume they are in dyer (mispelled) need of your help. Second of all, everyone is given their job due to their qualifications, he isn't incharge of gangs business and etc because he is not qualified.

Just because he has rights to everything doesn't give him the authority to tamper with things outside of his jurisdiction, lucky for him, the other staff members are not assertive. But that only works to the disbenefit of the players. Which leads to, he should do his job and no one elses unless asked to.

Also Tim, don't kissup to your boss on forums, please its not needed.

[Nataxo]

Originally Posted by CharlieM

In real life if you have a buisness and you dont do anything with it then your staff should be able to run it while your gone, and you wouldn't lose it right away it would go into a dormant factor because the only way you can forget about your buisness is if you have no expenditures.

Agreed. If while you're gon the business works worst it means that it's failing.

Originally Posted by Tim_Rocks

I would just like to comment on one thing you said, you said the staff would run it which is the Era hotel staff correct? Well from what I was told yesterday is that there is only one employee who books rooms and he said that he hasn't been paid once and Nas just walks in out of no where and takes all the money... Now if that's true, It can't be good for Nas. Because what I got from what he said is that Nas isn't active and just shows up and takes all the profits when he does nothing... Hopefully this player gets paid because I was hanging out in the level watching him book rooms for players and basically right now he's doing it for free, which isn't right.. So hopefully he will get paid.. In the mean time I guess we wait for Daz to get on..

thats preety bad

[Codein]

If the business isn't being run properly, then someone else should be given a chance to run it, fair and square.

It happens with everything. If a playerworld isn't being run properly, the management is removed and passed on to somebody else. Fair and square.

[Thanatoses]

Wish that were so true lately.

[papajchris]

Originally Posted by CharlieM

In real life if you have a buisness and you dont do anything with it then your staff should be able to run it while your gone, and you wouldn't lose it right away it would go into a dormant factor because the only way you can forget about your buisness is if you have no expenditures.

What are you talking about? I have a job, and if the manager/owner didn't show up, we wouldn't ever be open, and people wouldn't be paid. It's like saying if a teacher doesn't show up, the kids will run the class. \

Nas should have by now made someone a manager, and that person should be actively supervising the business. However, if he hasn't, then he should be the one being active and handling the business.

But I get what your saying. Theoretically, on Era one worker can keep a business active and keep money coming in. However, that person should be owner, not the one who just takes all the money.

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by papajchris

What are you talking about? I have a job, and if the manager/owner didn't show up, we wouldn't ever be open, and people wouldn't be paid. It's like saying if a teacher doesn't show up, the kids will run the class. \

Nas should have by now made someone a manager, and that person should be actively supervising the business. However, if he hasn't, then he should be the one being active and handling the business.

But I get what your saying. Theoretically, on Era one worker can keep a business active and keep money coming in. However, that person should be owner, not the one who just takes all the money.

I think what he's trying to say is that in real life, anyone can start a business. There are certain steps just about anyone can take to get the business publicly owned if they wanted to, for example. The government does not say "No, you cannot open a skateboard shop". Instead, whether this skateboard shop stays open is based on if you can pay the bills, not the activity it gets.

On Era, it's obviously quite different.

[Frankie]

there's an expectancy as squirt mentioned for the owner to take responsibilities of the business. you can't just not attend to it because it's your business.

[fullmetaled]

Okay hello guys how is everyone?Anyways to the subject of the hotel I am sincerely sorry if I put you guys in a bad position.I had to take care of some real life issues work/school so I was not able to continue to keep the the hotel hopefully when I get a chance I will check with Nas for the reason hes been absent.Yet Again I apologize for leaving short notice. Have A Great Day

Sincerly, Zero

[Scary_Sock]

So yeah.

I updated the EH Website that was in the lobby. Take a look:
http://share.zoho.com/contentfullvie...r&type=docview

[salesman]

I think that was used more for when there wasn't really a booking system in place

[Scary_Sock]

Well, I updated it just incase. People usually go to the website for the screenshots of the rooms. I need to wait for Tim to update the EH Lobby with the link now.

[Vman13x]

Ya I have seen nas inactive,I work for 2 business 1 I am co-owner and the second I am Manager,both owners are active,and they dont just take the money they pay the workers,where as nas Ive seen the save with money then in like 40 minutes I come back and its all gone, I talked with an era hotel member about this and he agreed that nas shouldnt take the money because all he is doing is making his workers work for free.

[Thanatoses]

An auto-pay system would put more demand on owners and businesses and actually increase thr difficulty / need for activity as an owner.

Two ways to do it...

Shifts and # of items stocked (Create both).

For businesses like Era Hotel pay by a certain number of hours and limit how many they can work a week.

For AM and etc, pay by number of (grabs) per week. (Actually do the math for a reasonable number). Also, limit how many grabs each player can get.

Then some consequences if workers aren't paid (Seeing as taxes auto-work themselves out).

Ex. Take money from owner atm or repossess the business for auction.

HUGE SYSTEM, but it'd be VERY useful and a HUGE improvement to Era businesses.

[Vman13x]

[QUOTE=Thanatoses;1497358]
For AM and etc, pay by number of (grabs) per week. (Actually do the math for a reasonable number). Also, limit how many grabs each player can get.

For am we get paid 2x what we stocked so say I only stocked 300,Id only make 600 for that week. But you have to be on the top stockers list to get paid so it shows whose inactive and what not.