Would you mind if "toguild:" would not work anymore?

[Crow]

I'm having some trouble determining if this would be a huge issue for players or not.

The origins of the problem: the chat bar. I want to reskin it, but I don't want to stick to pointy edges, I want them rounded. This is not possible by just modifying the default chat bar, because the background color of a GuiTextEditCtrl can not be included with the image (feature request). This means I would have to create my own chat bar, which removes the default toguild and toall functionality. Alongside this change I would code a slash command which would basically work the same, but the guild messages would be shown in a message system similar to GK's.

The question is, would this be a big issue for you, as a player?

[xnervNATx]

yes

[unknown]

I think graal itself should move past the toguild: and the current player list.

There should be a chat box you can move around on your client that gives you a preview of what people are chatting about(in toguilds/masses). It could be closed on demand. It is really annoying to have to click every msg you get, especially when just trying to have a convo with your guild. New systems for both should come into play, with easier ways to send and recieve all msgs, as well as new features.

[Cloven]

I would only mind if you didn't have a scripted means of achieving the same effect. This problem in general could be fixed multiple ways, so it's a shame this is even an issue.

[Soala]

Dammit, wanted to vote no XD
When you mean as a similar system to GK's, you mean like /ksay ?

[Crow]

Originally Posted by alexandralove

Dammit, wanted to vote no XD
When you mean as a similar system to GK's, you mean like /ksay ?

Yup, something like that.

[Elizabeth]

toguild is definitely annoying when it's being abused / just for chatting. i guess it's fun when you're actually enjoying the conversation. however it comes in handy when you're planning an event or meeting or whatever. idk i have mixed feelings on it.

[kia345]

Originally Posted by Crow

message system similar to GK's.

Pretty decent up until this. Those brief messages that GK, Zodiac and Era have are disgusting, would it be possible to still have it sent like a pm? You can opt to view those toguilds, ignore them, only read ones from certain people in your guild, etc etc. The on screen message is limited to "read me, ignore me but I'm still there", or completely miss all of them.

[Loriel]

We could have had proper chat channels for a while, the only thing sticking to PMs is getting you is logging, and that could also be handled better.

**** toguild:

[unknown]

Besides a new system coming into place with some of the things I mentioned above^ I'd bet a lot of people would like to see a way of global guild messaging.

[cbk1994]

I'd prefer scripted commands (like /tg on Era); it's a lot easier to chat with your guild (who has time to open PMs when we're crawling through sewers, planting claymores, and silently taking the elevator down to the lobby to slaughter the Cartels?

[kia345]

Originally Posted by cbk1994

(who has time to open PMs when we're crawling through sewers, planting claymores, and silently taking the elevator down to the lobby to slaughter the Cartels?

Same person who has time to divert their attention to a single corner, read a comment, and type a reply. The PM bubbles can wait until you have some free time. Why not implement it like the toall thing? A pm bubble still pops up, but the message displays on screen.

[Crow]

Originally Posted by kia345

Pretty decent up until this. Those brief messages that GK, Zodiac and Era have are disgusting, would it be possible to still have it sent like a pm? You can opt to view those toguilds, ignore them, only read ones from certain people in your guild, etc etc. The on screen message is limited to "read me, ignore me but I'm still there", or completely miss all of them.

I'm sure it is possible to create a custom system which delivers messages through PMs, but those PMs would have to be delivered by the NPC Server.

[Rufus]

If the command was disabled on a server that I frequent then yes, I would be bothered. Other than that I'm not so sure, but I assume you're aiming your concerns to potential regulars for your server.

[papajchris]

toguild isn't a big deal to me as I never notice the bubbles, especially when your on a server like UN or Era that has so much spam mass messages that they are always covering them up. In addition, most people on zodiac use the custom command /guild anyways.

[CharlieM]

Originally Posted by kia345

Same person who has time to divert their attention to a single corner, read a comment, and type a reply. The PM bubbles can wait until you have some free time. Why not implement it like the toall thing? A pm bubble still pops up, but the message displays on screen.

Eras /tg shows up in the corner of your green it's not a PM

[kia345]

Originally Posted by CharlieM

Eras /tg shows up in the corner of your green it's not a PM

I'm aware of that, that's what I'm complaining about.

[Crono]

As a person who actually plays the game and is active in a guild/guilds, yes.

[bioboi]

Considering the fact that for some odd reason text on my Graal screen lags the crap out of me yes it would bother me.

[xXziroXx]

Originally Posted by bioboi

Considering the fact that for some odd reason text on my Graal screen lags the crap out of me yes it would bother me.

Play in -opengl and you won't have that problem

[Hiro]

voted yes.

wish there were more tocommands. "toadmins" or "tofamily" or "to'other'guild" would be cool.

[Crow]

Originally Posted by Hiro

wish there were more tocommands. "toadmins" or "tofamily" or "to'other'guild" would be cool.

I don't think those would be of use. "toadmins" is not needed. Instead of bothering every online staff member, you should direct your problems to a single one. Families don't even naturally exist, can use guilds for those. Sending messages to other guilds could be used in an abusive way.

[Loriel]

Originally Posted by Crow

"toadmins" is not needed. Instead of bothering every online staff member, you should direct your problems to a single one.

It could be scripted to add the message to a queue that is made available to all admins, and whoever feels qualified can choose to take it out of the queue and answer it.

All the others are probably better solved with a proper chat room system instead of making more stuff generate PMs.

[Hiro]

Originally Posted by Loriel

It could be scripted to add the message to a queue that is made available to all admins, and whoever feels qualified can choose to take it out of the queue and answer it.

All the others are probably better solved with a proper chat room system instead of making more stuff generate PMs.

the same could be done for a "tofamily" in that players can join a created queue with an invite or something, thus not even needing the tags to talk amongst themselves.