Secret about Sanstrata Death

[Jaguar__5]

I'm sorry I withheld this info, but I know alot of things no one else knows about the death of Sanstrata, my once beloved home. The person known as "UbErMaSs" was Richter Donne, the GFX Admin, he was angry about all the lame owners, the shitty levels, and all the lame "Hackers" that kept roaming all around Sanstrata. He had gotten Jinx's password somehow, (which i think it was vampire or something, its been a while since I talked to him) and he and Tweaker, proceded to take over Sanstrata. Richter had Tweaker ban and disable all of the staff accounts and delete all of the ip ranges so only him and Tweaker could logon to the Sanstrata RCs.

Richter then deleted all the levels and put up an "onlinestartlocal.nw" that contained a staff boots weapon called "Hacker Booties" or something like that X_x. After some fight or other thing, Tweaker decided he didn't want to be a part of the whole ordeal anymore, so Tweaker killed off his own RC and left Richter to finish whatever he had in mind, but wouldn't give Richter full access, he left Richter with a partially crippled RC, and changed the rc accounts passes, except for Richter's one.

Richter continued to rule over Sanstrata, till it was shut down for about a week, then brought back with the REALLY REALLY crappy "jetslevels" and about a 2 weeks to a month later, DV was owner, but then resigned and gave the PW to Panny. After that, the old (might I add I had a newer backup than the old musty one they used, they just didn't use em or something, I gave em to Tori, Proz, AND Jinx before this even happened) levels, and thats how things ran for a while.

After a very short while, Panny was becoming snippy, refusing to give RC to anyone at first, then at the massive request for RC and FTP, all the higher and "slightly" higher staff members got FTP and RC, I mean even the LAT Captain had RC, and only the LAT Admin should have RC :P!

Anyway, I noticed that Richter was staff AGAIN! I was the only one as far as I knew who knew all the bigger details of this, so I didn't think anyone else realized that Richter was "UbErMaSs" the whole time, because I had talked to him through AIM, he was like "Hey Jag, guess who, Its Richter!" I was really suprized, but I could kinda see him as the kind of guy who'd take over a server just because he was pissed. I tried to tell Panny that Richter had been the "UbErMaSs" guy, but she either ignored me or just didn't care, because he was still staff when I decided to stop trying to save Sanstrata, and just let fate take its course.....

Of all people who I didn't think needed to be Owner, it was Panny, she was very good at the GP Adminy stuff, but she was never suited for Ownership, Tori should have NEVER EVER EVER EVER been fired, she made one mistake, and not even a really big one, and she got the boot, She was the BEST admin there ever was on Sans, as for the Ownership, Sabin was and always will be my first choice, he was great, but he decided to quit Graal, so I knew I couldn't get him to come back unless he really wanted to. Prozac is a scripter, a developer, and a hard worker, unfortunately, he has a bigger life than most of us who play graal, most of us don't have jobs, don't have college or other things like that to deal with every day, 80-90% of graal is people under 18! So Prozac was usually too busy to come in and work at Sanstrata all the time like alot of the others did, so levels didn't really get uploaded very quickly while he was Owner, and updates were good, but rare and slowly done. Jinx was the second best owner, he kept things moving as best he could, but he had alot of pressures and sometimes trusted people with too much power, and some did abuse it, and he did do his best to keep everyone in line, although sometimes he failed, he still did his best. DV should never have been owner, sorry man, but you sucked at it, and you didn't do a whole load of squat, sorry!

I think Sanstrata SHOULD be given another chance, but we need to weed out the rats and lamos, and inforce some better rules and regulations. Thanks for taking the time to read this! (There is SOME info I can't say because my ISP would be fried in about 3 seconds later, but this is just about all the things that were really killing me because I was going against Sanstrata by keeping them secret)

I'm so sorry Sanstrata, I should have done this a long time ago, please, forgive me! Oh my home, would you still be alive if I had only spoken?

-Jaguar

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Greetz to all my Sans buddies =)
SORRY ITS SO LONG BUT ITS A LONG STORY!!!!!

[Psyker]

P A R A G R A P H S

[AlkarenHyralt]

AGGGHHHHH *dies trying to read the post*

[Xerphier Dintch]

I got bored reading through, sorry though. Some paragraphes would be nice, try to post it more conceisely next time.

[Metal-Slug]

honestly, PWs are stupid unless the project were to be handed down from stefan or unixmad

[magicbud3344]

if anyone reads the whole thing tell me lol

[Judge_Spunky]

Proper sentence structure is a virtue.

[ghostsamurai]

I'm sorry I withheld this info, but I know alot of things no one else knows about the death of Sanstrata, my once beloved home. The person known as "UbErMaSs" was Richter Donne, the GFX Admin, he was angry about all the lame owners, the shitty levels, and all the lame "Hackers" that kept roaming all around Sanstrata. He had gotten Jinx's password somehow, (which i think it was vampire or something, its been a while since I talked to him) and he and Tweaker, proceded to take over Sanstrata. Richter had Tweaker ban and disable all of the staff accounts and delete all of the ip ranges so only him and Tweaker could logon to the Sanstrata RCs. Richter then deleted all the levels and put up an "onlinestartlocal.nw" that contained a staff boots weapon called "Hacker Booties" or something like that X_x. After some fight or other thing, Tweaker decided he didn't want to be a part of the whole ordeal anymore, so Tweaker killed off his own RC and left Richter to finish whatever he had in mind, but wouldn't give Richter full access, he left Richter with a partially crippled RC, and changed the rc accounts passes, except for Richter's one. Richter continued to rule over Sanstrata, it was shut down for about a week, then brought back with the REALLY REALLY crappy "jetslevels" and about a 2 weeks-a month later, DV was owner, but then resigned and gave the PW to Panny. After that, the old (might I add I had a newer backup than the old musty one they used, they just didn't use em or something, I gave em to Tori, Proz, AND Jinx before this even happened) levels, and thats how things ran for a while. After a very short while, Panny was becoming snippy, refusing to give RC to anyone at first, then at the massive request for RC and FTP, all the higher and "slightly" higher staff members got FTP and RC, I mean even the LAT Captain had RC, and only the LAT Admin should have RC :P! Anyway, I noticed that Richter was staff AGAIN! I was the only one as far as I knew who knew all the bigger details of this, so I didn't think anyone else realized that Richter was "UbErMaSs" the whole time, because I had talked to him through AIM, he was like "Hey Jag, guess who, Its Richter!" I was really suprized, but I could kinda see him as the kind of guy who'd take over a server just because he was pissed. I tried to tell Panny that Richter had been the "UbErMaSs" guy, but she either ignored me or just didn't care, because he was still staff when I decided to stop trying to save Sanstrata, and just let fate take its course, because of all people who I didn't think needed to be Owner, it was Panny, she was very
good at the GP Adminy stuff, but she was never suited for Ownership, Tori should have NEVER EVER EVER EVER been fired, she made one mistake, and not even a really big one, and she got the boot, She was the BEST admin there ever was on Sans, as for the Ownership, Sabin was and always will be my first choi ce, he was great, but he decided to quit Graal, so I knew I couldn't get him to come back unless he really wa
nted to. Prozac is a scripter, a developer, and a hard worker, unfortunately, he has a bigger life than most of us who play graal, most of us don't have jobs, don't have college or other things like that to deal with every day, 80-90% of graal is people under 18! So Prozac was usually too busy to come in and work at Sanstrata all the time like alot of the others did, so levels didn't really get uploaded very quickly while he was Owner, and updates were good, but rare and slowly done. Jinx was the second best owner, he kept things moving as best he could, but he had alot of pressures and sometimes trusted people with too much power, and some did abuse it, and he did do his best to keep everyone in line, although sometimes he failed, he still did his best. DV should never have been owner, sorry man, but you sucked at it, and you didn't do a whole load of squat, sorry! I think Sanstrata SHOULD be given another chance, but we need to weed out the rats and lamos,
and inforce some better rules and regulations. Thanks for taking the time to read this! (There is SOME info I can't say because my ISP would be fried in about 3 seconds later, but this is just about all the things that were really killing me because I was going against Sanstrata by keeping them secret)
I'm so sorry Sanstrata, I should have done this a long time ago, please, forgive me!

-Jaguar

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Greetz to all my Sans buddies =)


there, I made it easier ton read!!!

[Judge_Spunky]

Originally posted by ghostsamurai

I'm sorry I withheld this info, but I know alot of things no one else knows about the death of Sanstrata, my once beloved home. The person known as "UbErMaSs" was Richter Donne, the GFX Admin, he was angry about all the lame owners, the shitty levels, and all the lame "Hackers" that kept roaming all around Sanstrata. He had gotten Jinx's password somehow, (which i think it was vampire or something, its been a while since I talked to him) and he and Tweaker, proceded to take over Sanstrata. Richter had Tweaker ban and disable all of the staff accounts and delete all of the ip ranges so only him and Tweaker could logon to the Sanstrata RCs. Richter then deleted all the levels and put up an "onlinestartlocal.nw" that contained a staff boots weapon called "Hacker Booties" or something like that X_x. After some fight or other thing, Tweaker decided he didn't want to be a part of the whole ordeal anymore, so Tweaker killed off his own RC and left Richter to finish whatever he had in mind, but wouldn't give Richter full access, he left Richter with a partially crippled RC, and changed the rc accounts passes, except for Richter's one. Richter continued to rule over Sanstrata, it was shut down for about a week, then brought back with the REALLY REALLY crappy "jetslevels" and about a 2 weeks-a month later, DV was owner, but then resigned and gave the PW to Panny. After that, the old (might I add I had a newer backup than the old musty one they used, they just didn't use em or something, I gave em to Tori, Proz, AND Jinx before this even happened) levels, and thats how things ran for a while. After a very short while, Panny was becoming snippy, refusing to give RC to anyone at first, then at the massive request for RC and FTP, all the higher and "slightly" higher staff members got FTP and RC, I mean even the LAT Captain had RC, and only the LAT Admin should have RC :P! Anyway, I noticed that Richter was staff AGAIN! I was the only one as far as I knew who knew all the bigger details of this, so I didn't think anyone else realized that Richter was "UbErMaSs" the whole time, because I had talked to him through AIM, he was like "Hey Jag, guess who, Its Richter!" I was really suprized, but I could kinda see him as the kind of guy who'd take over a server just because he was pissed. I tried to tell Panny that Richter had been the "UbErMaSs" guy, but she either ignored me or just didn't care, because he was still staff when I decided to stop trying to save Sanstrata, and just let fate take its course, because of all people who I didn't think needed to be Owner, it was Panny, she was very
good at the GP Adminy stuff, but she was never suited for Ownership, Tori should have NEVER EVER EVER EVER been fired, she made one mistake, and not even a really big one, and she got the boot, She was the BEST admin there ever was on Sans, as for the Ownership, Sabin was and always will be my first choi ce, he was great, but he decided to quit Graal, so I knew I couldn't get him to come back unless he really wa
nted to. Prozac is a scripter, a developer, and a hard worker, unfortunately, he has a bigger life than most of us who play graal, most of us don't have jobs, don't have college or other things like that to deal with every day, 80-90% of graal is people under 18! So Prozac was usually too busy to come in and work at Sanstrata all the time like alot of the others did, so levels didn't really get uploaded very quickly while he was Owner, and updates were good, but rare and slowly done. Jinx was the second best owner, he kept things moving as best he could, but he had alot of pressures and sometimes trusted people with too much power, and some did abuse it, and he did do his best to keep everyone in line, although sometimes he failed, he still did his best. DV should never have been owner, sorry man, but you sucked at it, and you didn't do a whole load of squat, sorry! I think Sanstrata SHOULD be given another chance, but we need to weed out the rats and lamos,
and inforce some better rules and regulations. Thanks for taking the time to read this! (There is SOME info I can't say because my ISP would be fried in about 3 seconds later, but this is just about all the things that were really killing me because I was going against Sanstrata by keeping them secret)
I'm so sorry Sanstrata, I should have done this a long time ago, please, forgive me!

-Jaguar

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Greetz to all my Sans buddies =)


there, I made it easier ton read!!!

Yes, but not by very much. It was split in the middle of a word.

[DragonX2]

Originally posted by magicbud3344
if anyone reads the whole thing tell me lol

I read it all

[ghostsamurai]

Originally posted by Judge_Spunky


Yes, but not by very much. It was split in the middle of a word.

thats the joke

[Judge_Spunky]

Originally posted by ghostsamurai
thats the joke

Ummm.... I knew that.

[magicbud3344]

my eyes taste liek burning

[Dustey4Ever]

its already closed i bet most of the staff have deleted there files x.x since when do most servers come back a week after they close?

[__XxRazorxX__]

Originally posted by Jaguar__5
I'm sorry I withheld this info, but I know alot of things no one else knows about the death of Sanstrata, my once beloved home. The person known as "UbErMaSs" was Richter Donne, the GFX Admin, he was angry about all the lame owners, the shitty levels, and all the lame "Hackers" that kept roaming all around Sanstrata. He had gotten Jinx's password somehow, (which i think it was vampire or something, its been a while since I talked to him) and he and Tweaker, proceded to take over Sanstrata. Richter had Tweaker ban and disable all of the staff accounts and delete all of the ip ranges so only him and Tweaker could logon to the Sanstrata RCs.

Richter then deleted all the levels and put up an "onlinestartlocal.nw" that contained a staff boots weapon called "Hacker Booties" or something like that X_x. After some fight or other thing, Tweaker decided he didn't want to be a part of the whole ordeal anymore, so Tweaker killed off his own RC and left Richter to finish whatever he had in mind, but wouldn't give Richter full access, he left Richter with a partially crippled RC, and changed the rc accounts passes, except for Richter's one.

Richter continued to rule over Sanstrata, till it was shut down for about a week, then brought back with the REALLY REALLY crappy "jetslevels" and about a 2 weeks to a month later, DV was owner, but then resigned and gave the PW to Panny. After that, the old (might I add I had a newer backup than the old musty one they used, they just didn't use em or something, I gave em to Tori, Proz, AND Jinx before this even happened) levels, and thats how things ran for a while.

After a very short while, Panny was becoming snippy, refusing to give RC to anyone at first, then at the massive request for RC and FTP, all the higher and "slightly" higher staff members got FTP and RC, I mean even the LAT Captain had RC, and only the LAT Admin should have RC :P!

Anyway, I noticed that Richter was staff AGAIN! I was the only one as far as I knew who knew all the bigger details of this, so I didn't think anyone else realized that Richter was "UbErMaSs" the whole time, because I had talked to him through AIM, he was like "Hey Jag, guess who, Its Richter!" I was really suprized, but I could kinda see him as the kind of guy who'd take over a server just because he was pissed. I tried to tell Panny that Richter had been the "UbErMaSs" guy, but she either ignored me or just didn't care, because he was still staff when I decided to stop trying to save Sanstrata, and just let fate take its course.....

Of all people who I didn't think needed to be Owner, it was Panny, she was very good at the GP Adminy stuff, but she was never suited for Ownership, Tori should have NEVER EVER EVER EVER been fired, she made one mistake, and not even a really big one, and she got the boot, She was the BEST admin there ever was on Sans, as for the Ownership, Sabin was and always will be my first choice, he was great, but he decided to quit Graal, so I knew I couldn't get him to come back unless he really wanted to. Prozac is a scripter, a developer, and a hard worker, unfortunately, he has a bigger life than most of us who play graal, most of us don't have jobs, don't have college or other things like that to deal with every day, 80-90% of graal is people under 18! So Prozac was usually too busy to come in and work at Sanstrata all the time like alot of the others did, so levels didn't really get uploaded very quickly while he was Owner, and updates were good, but rare and slowly done. Jinx was the second best owner, he kept things moving as best he could, but he had alot of pressures and sometimes trusted people with too much power, and some did abuse it, and he did do his best to keep everyone in line, although sometimes he failed, he still did his best. DV should never have been owner, sorry man, but you sucked at it, and you didn't do a whole load of squat, sorry!

I think Sanstrata SHOULD be given another chance, but we need to weed out the rats and lamos, and inforce some better rules and regulations. Thanks for taking the time to read this! (There is SOME info I can't say because my ISP would be fried in about 3 seconds later, but this is just about all the things that were really killing me because I was going against Sanstrata by keeping them secret)

I'm so sorry Sanstrata, I should have done this a long time ago, please, forgive me! Oh my home, would you still be alive if I had only spoken?

-Jaguar

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Greetz to all my Sans buddies =)
SORRY ITS SO LONG BUT ITS A LONG STORY!!!!!

man That hurts jag you should have said something Sooner San ment so much to me I was there for a long time San was home you should have told us sooner what was going on

[Jaguar__5]

I told you I'm SORRY!
I wish I had SOOO MUCH!
I'm really really realllllly sorry everyone!!!
I've let Sanstrata down haven't I?!
*sob cry sob sob cry CRRRRRRRYYYYYYY*
PLEASE FORGIVE ME EVERYONE!

[_0AfTeRsHoCk0_]

Good thing the server is dead
*ships to PW forum*

[__XxRazorxX__]

It's ok Jag i guess there is a point a time where everyone has to move on i only hope i can make a home out of G2k2,Oasis, Or Murasamune (This server will own them all =D)

[SinNetherwind]

Sanstrata.... Good riddance is all I have to say.

[zell12]

Don had level 4 RC, Full FTP, and was Bugs Admin

[haunter]

Originally posted by AlkarenHyralt
AGGGHHHHH *dies trying to read the post*

AGGGHHHHH *gives up trying to read the post*

[MysticZhadow]

Okay now, don't make me tell the entire Dino Valley story.

[stefan76]

Sabin was the only good true owner.

He had tons of plans for sanstrata that most people didn't even know about. He would always be planning new stuff. (i knew most of it because he's my cousin)

Everyone after him just sorta "sat back" and did not too much.

What they should have done was develop RPing more there. It had a good story if you would have gone more into detail and added a few things. That guy who has the army of arcakas or whatever ..I dont even remember seeing him or his army anywhere in Sanstrata and he was the main bad guy.....
I think Sabin russed Sanstrata to be opened too. He should had worked a few more months on it.

[kenyonandelliot]

I hate the bad people. Sanstrata was a good server! It was like the first server I played then I played DV.

[kenyonandelliot]

DV got shutdown because of the damn Germans took over!

[nyghtGT]

This is why servers need GOOD management.

If an owner quits he shouldn't just give it to his friend or whatever it should go to the Co Owner and so forth. Servers have a hard enough time trying to get up and then stupid people just decide to treat their server like crap and let it go to waste. If your gonna make a server you should be their to take care of things on it instead of just popping on RC once and a while and "checking" up on things.

[Graal518]

Sanstrata is probably better down. I admit, I've met nice people there. Jinx being one of them. He always talked to me when I'd visit over from Mithica. Then of course Panny, who I know outside of graal was there. Though it's been through so much turmoil. If it comes back up, who is to say there won't be a repeat of what happened?

[ZanderX]

Originally posted by kenyonandelliot
DV got shutdown because of the damn Germans took over!

WHAT THE ****?

[freddyfox]

Originally posted by Jaguar__5
I told you I'm SORRY!
I wish I had SOOO MUCH!
I'm really really realllllly sorry everyone!!!
I've let Sanstrata down haven't I?!
*sob cry sob sob cry CRRRRRRRYYYYYYY*
PLEASE FORGIVE ME EVERYONE!

Pass me the Grammy, this guy won the acting award.

[prozac424242]

Jaguar is right,
while I do enjoy graal a lot and have been playing it for two and a half years, I do not have time to be a server owner.
I am working on another playerworld project offline and taking my time at making uber-leet scripts, quests, and even visual effects. I will take my time at it to make it really cool.

Then, I will be looking for some talented LAT's and such to make look better the overall levels and help them fit.
If yuo remmeber the earth and fire temples and orb of of light quests and the sotryline(s), that was me.

If the playerworld does go up for review, i will be looking for a trustworthy person to be owner, as I do not have the time to be a good owner and be online.

San was a fun place to spend literaly over a thousand hours working on, and with the skills I have acquired, this next playerworld will be even better. I refrain from giving more detail so that no one will take ideas.

[SavantMiles]

jaguar thats not what happend the first time, the first time don and rich hacked sans because of prozac (they also blamed it on me because i had planned on firing don since he was a hacker) they hacked rcs and destroyed sans. after that dv was owner and a big blank period of nothingness happend(nothingness being bad) then psyker made panny owner. everything was going good until ppl hacked tweakers account because he forgot to ip lock it, and then sans whent down. Jaguar my best advice to you is to move on like i have.

[prozac424242]

I was never the reason of any hacking. i never told anyone to hack on sans. Anyone blaming me of a reason to hack is talking out of their behind. When anyone hacks, the choice to do so is theirs alone. All human action is entirely in the free will of that person's choice. People did not hack because of me any more than people play graal becasue of stefan.
Grated, if it was not for stefan graal would not be here, likewise if it were not for me san would have not been up as long as it was.
san is gone and im dealing with it. the pw i am workign on will not be a new san - it will be different and thats all im sayign at this time

[Jaguar__5]

Well, its kinda like wif Coasta De Agua, you never can forget all the good times and the friends and fun you had, I'll never forget Coasta De Agua or Sanstrata, or all my buds from those places, if neither servers ever even come up I'll live with it, hell, I'd be owner in a heartbeat if I could, I could prolly even be able to handle it, but hey, lets not get greedy, if Proz remakes Sans or Paraxia or whatever, Sabin should be owner, if possible =)
Later guys!

-Jaguar

[Gangster88]

Originally posted by ZanderX



WHAT THE ****?

Ferret:
SHUT UP!!.. Alkaren, give him a warning!!!!!!
JUSTICE TO THE PEOPLE

[SavantMiles]

This Post is from Chaos, not me:

First off don and richet did not hack sh*t all they got a pw of a damin asking them if they want job on thier server and asking for what rc and ow they wanted thus same pw. Then donne changed all IP ranges and did it, it was not hacking, it was stupidy on the admins play belive it was beo.Tweaker did delete levels this time even though i warned panny 6-7 times.and Jaguar shut up you can't act sh*t. You didn't know anything that anyone else didn't know.


Remember that was from chaos not me.

[Jaguar__5]

I sat there and WATCHED it happen, if some other shixt with admins happened, I sure as **** haven't heard it before, I'm not actin squat, other peeps had no idea about Richters involvement, and theres alot more to it than even you know, "certain" people, get information, and that information, never leaves :P

[davidpsy]

all great things have to come to an end......
but greater things have an Epilogue.
I once was a messiah but i quit because people kept thinking I was better then them and so i quit and lived life as a normal person. and i might become messiah again if i could bring sanstrata back. i already said i was exmessiah but if you help me i could bring sanstrata back. no one elce could be owner i could be owner but weather or not i am owner i just want to bring it back. sanstrata was hacked i glad you spoke jaguar even if it was a little late. now i have something to say to the PW staff and that is. sanstrata was hacked this is sending a message to all hackers and ftp misusers that is they hack a server enuf that they can get away with it and bring a server down and if more servers go down they might destory all of graal. but if you bring sanstrata back it tells the hackers they cant win. and so i say to you lets let sanstrata have a Epilogue. im on everday and could be a great owner so please help me and ill help you.
you can help me by talking to the PW staff saying you want sanstrata back.

[iniquitus]

Just build something beter, it's not coming back. I started reading, about 1/3rd through I was dieing of hunger, so I went to get some food, read another line, and fainted-- I just woke up again...

[davidpsy]

but that runes the fun of buging PW staff and asking them to put it back up and then it is up and the hackers come and you have to stop them and hire staff and stop hackers and all kinds of fun and frustation JK no we are gonna bring sanstrata back

[Andor_RC9]

(This post is being made by JINX, not Robin or Brent. My modem is once again messed up, and I can't seem to log in with my normal account here at school, where I'm posting this, I feel the need to post something here...)

Sanstrata is down, gone. Let's not bother ourselves blaming people for what happened. Sanstrata was a lot of fun for awhile, I have lots of great memories there, as I'm sure many of you do, I've made many friends there too.

Sabin was the best owner sanstrata had, everything was great under him. Once he left, sanstrata just shot downhill.

Prozac, I wish you luck with your playerworld project, and hope it turns out great.