A Proposition to save Graal Kingdoms

[DraxxTeazok]

first off i have to say, googie your an idiot. i have never once seen you bring any useful information or advice to any thread on the forums. i have also suggested many great ideas to expand gk, and am never taken seriously. anyone who is a real gamer can tell how to evolve this game simply by taking the best parts of past games and adapting them to fit in the gk world. just like my fishing idea.

Secondly, tig you're one of the most foul people i have ever met, and as a person you make me sick, but i know you can dev, and you have ideas. if i could stand to be around you i may have already started working with you.

Third is to Bjorn, you're lazy. i dunno if anyone else really knows it, but i do. I know working on this game can be a pain, it can make you want to tear your hair out in clumps, but if you dont care for playing the game, then you should NEVER be in charge of anything.
Have you fixed the postal system yet that i asked you to do at least half a dozen times in the past two years? NO
instead you forgot about it again, guarantee it, because YOU DONT CARE TO PLAY this game
and whats worse is that you are still the best guy for the job
you're "waiting for those item stats" are ya?
you think you sound like a leader? you sound like a loser
if you gave a **** you would have gone to stefan 100 times by now for those stats
and you "dont know how the US works?"
you have made that very clear, but care to guess where your player base originates? thats right, we are mostly americans (dunno if you actually even realize that)
you have also made it very clear that you are good with scripting, but you know nothing about game creation
im willing to bet your not even a gamer, not even a little bit

i dont think we should replace you, i think you need to get your **** together and do something like a real leader

i have given you tons of my ideas for a great fishing system, bug catching, farming with animals, a pet job system, new monsters and drops, custom kingdom hair clothing and gear, sounds and animals of nature, a gift giving mail system, wild plant/fungus gathering guide, custom home furnishings, i can go on and on, but the fact is none of them, not one has been implimented

not once have you even taken the time to learn from me
even when alarid made custom kingdom clothing ideas, and new monsters, you ignored him until he quit, now he laughs at you and talks about how your doomed, and im willing to bet hes right

now im stuck doing GFX and being ignored alone again

you want people to actually believe you work hard? then hire some staff, hire some scripters and GFX, hire Tig for a start, and get to work on this games content (note that doesn't include anymore useless ugly items or blank islands) i mean REAL content

and dayaa, saying new content only lasts so long is just ignorant, thats like saying lords no longer have a place in gk
they weren't there before, then they were added, and they been useful in several ways ever since (thats real new content)

P.S. Tig if you cant script, i dont see how you could really be of help, other then helping with gfx (making new buildings filled with the same junk doesn't even classify as a bandaid)

[ViperZakuto]

I was waiting for you to come in on this one. =D I believe tig can script with the best of them. If he couldn't I don't think he would be working on his own server called Ol West. =O I see you have had more ideas. =P Wish I could help you on that =(

Originally Posted by Luigi203

...and Tig is capabable of all of this...which is why Tig was nominated to replace Bjorn...?

first off if you read this thread it is not to replace Bjorn. As much as we would all like to see it happen... Bjorn is more than likely going to stay. This is about making Tig an admin.

@Bjorn: Your lucky that the proposition to remove you from GK admin was taken down like 1 year ago for fear of getting banned. It was signed by like 2/3 of the gk population at the time =O

[dNeonb]

Originally Posted by ViperZakuto

This is about making Tig an admin.

Actually it is but you forgot to mention one point. All the arguments are based on it that Tig can only help GK if he is Admin, and this is not ture.

Originally Posted by ViperZakuto

@Bjorn: Your lucky that the proposition to remove you from GK admin was taken down like 1 year ago for fear of getting banned. It was signed by like 2/3 of the gk population at the time =O

I can not remember such a proposition at all. But when talking about 2/3 of GK you are talking about something on forums I assume because there wouldn't have been a way to do that on GK. So only say 2/3 of the people who are active on the gk forums and not of the GK players.
If I would treat people that way a few would be banned which they are not. This is just defamation and nothing else. If you have nothing better than defamations to support your opinion I really do feel sorry for you.

[Sheen_the_mage]

If the forum is just a tiny bit of the gk community, why isn't there an in-game poll?
I remember one a few years ago.

[Pimmeh]

Because the masses cant make their own desisions, afcourse.
That is the reason we have leaders, because total democracy wouldnt work

[Ravenblade1979]

Bjorn the fact that a petition was signed by 2/3rd's of GK players should tell you something. Don't ignore this. See this as a sign that maybe something serious is wrong here. I have to admit that you can be quick at uploading something as long as its done right and within your boundries but its time to get more help. Its time for you to have an admin who will be your equal (not saying to replace you) and won't be afraid to bite back.

People want more done. They want bug fixes, new monsters etc. Frankly people don't want to goto you because you do turn down a lot of stuff. As much as you want to deny this you know its true. Granted though for good reason most of the time(example: script doesn't work right, level isn't nice enough etc.).

I think its time to listen to the GK populous. Only so much can be done on debug. Especially when 96% of the people on there are only on for their kingdom. Tig is a good scripter but can only do so much. Me I am a mediocre LAT at best. We need more for the dev teams. We need specified dev team..not zormite or CP but GK itself. It can be Tig on that team as well as some other people.

Theres a first step to take Bjorn. How about getting a dev team specified on improving GK more by fixing bugs, adding monsters etc.

[Tigairius]

Draxx you have a lot of good ideas, after I finish my current projects I will talk to Björn and Stefan about if I can do some of them, and see if I can get some of those done, like a herbalism job, and stuff. Also may start working on a quest system to get people to use their skills, like "Please, go charm 10 monsters and return to me" so people will have to use oratory and singing, may make leveling a bit more fun.

[FenixTheBanished]

Originally Posted by Tigairius

Draxx you have a lot of good ideas, after I finish my current projects I will talk to Björn and Stefan about if I can do some of them, and see if I can get some of those done, like a herbalism job, and stuff. Also may start working on a quest system to get people to use their skills, like "Please, go charm 10 monsters and return to me" so people will have to use oratory and singing, may make leveling a bit more fun.

Also something that could be good for noobs is quests that will reward them some basic gear.

[Tigairius]

Originally Posted by FenixTheBanished

Also something that could be good for noobs is quests that will reward them some basic gear.

Yes, simple quests like "please take this letter to ____ in Eastern Bomboria"

[Ravenblade1979]

Oh yeah I heard about that.

[ViperZakuto]

the thing is... Bjorn doesn't really present much to stefan. If he doesn't like the idea... then no discussion is done with stefan. Bjorn doesn't really know what is best for gk. Tig knows more of what is best for gk because he has played it for so long.

[pooper200000]

Originally Posted by ViperZakuto

the thing is... Bjorn doesn't really present much to stefan. If he doesn't like the idea... then no discussion is done with stefan. Bjorn doesn't really know what is best for gk. Tig knows more of what is best for gk because he has played it for so long.

Well yes but he still has to go through the exact same processes. It's not as much Bjorn slowing the system down its someone else. (Doesn't look at Dev workers) Dont get me wrong I respect this person but perhaps a new "Okay-er" is needed? Work is always submitted "Okaying" is the problem and Tig isn't going to magicly change that I don't think..

[FenixTheBanished]

Originally Posted by pooper200000

Well yes but he still has to go through the exact same processes. It's not as much Bjorn slowing the system down its someone else. (Doesn't look at Dev workers) Dont get me wrong I respect this person but perhaps a new "Okay-er" is needed? Work is always submitted "Okaying" is the problem and Tig isn't going to magicly change that I don't think..

The whole point of this thread is;

1. to point out GK needs saving.

2. We need a Admin who will present ideas to Stefan REGULARLY.
i.e. Tig

3. Bjorn doesn't care about GK or our opinions or how we feel, and this ENTIRE thread is a CLEAR and CONCISE portrayal of that just by the way he is responding, dodging FACTUAL accusations, etc.

4. Good luck getting a new "Okay-er."

[Googi]

Originally Posted by ViperZakuto

the thing is... Bjorn doesn't really present much to stefan. If he doesn't like the idea... then no discussion is done with stefan. Bjorn doesn't really know what is best for gk. Tig knows more of what is best for gk because he has played it for so long.

But Tig doesn't have to go through Bjorn to get to Stefan. Unless it's something like Stefan not trusting opinions that don't come from Bjorn, which isn't something that's addressed by changing Tig's staff-rank.

[ViperZakuto]

Originally Posted by Googi

But Tig doesn't have to go through Bjorn to get to Stefan. Unless it's something like Stefan not trusting opinions that don't come from Bjorn, which isn't something that's addressed by changing Tig's staff-rank.

Actually stefan likes quite a few ideas that Bjorn turns down...

Originally Posted by Tigairius

Great Stuff

All very good ideas tig. about the monsters. You should go through the slaying lists of all the gods and make them monsters so they are more useful =D