Classic

[jake13jake]

If there is going to be any blame, I blame Tyhm.

[Polo]

Originally Posted by jake13jake

If there is going to be any blame, I blame Tyhm.

I feel loved, for a change

[-Ramirez-]

Originally Posted by jake13jake

If there is going to be any blame, I blame Tyhm.

At least Tyhm didn't interfere to RUIN things. I'd rather have a manager that did nothing and ruined nothing than one that does things and ruins it all.

Originally Posted by Polo

I feel loved

You're not.

[Tyhm]

Yeah, a number of my changes were unwelcome, unnecessary and ultimately detremental. I still think races are a keen idea, just not for Classic. I'd love to see a Saga Frontier like world where you can realistically be expected to compleat the same game with a bubble wand as with a sword - the technique is different so the goal is different, to traverse rather than defeat.
I still think seasons and night are a keen idea, and I think they're keen for Classic, just maybe not at the technology level at which they were implemented. Slowed down the game for too many people.
I still think a cohesive plot and levels that can be reasonably expected to meld without introducing such bugs as edge-PKing is a keen idea for Classic. I think such ideas are the very HEART of Classic. I think Classic was always intended to be a smooth Zelda3 like game, with magic, 20 hearts, and eventually the L4 Sword.
Here's the crux of it though - I tried to balance things out.
I think there were intended to be 20 hearts, but more than 20 quests. So you got Heras, and people didn't like it. You're right, it didn't feel Classic, but neither did quarterhearts.
I think Magic was intended to exist and to be powerful, but not something innate. So you got The Magic Quest, and people didn't like it. You're right, it didn't feel Zelda 3, but neither did Sarda's Book.
I think The Golden Sword was intended to exist and do 2 hearts of damage, but not slice through Newbies, and not be so commonplace that anyone who visited Zol's House had one. So I put it off to the very end of the plot and put Newbie Protection in dans le temps midi (a fancy way of saying "in the meantime" without saying "put it in in the meantime") I still have the levels somewhere where you at last get The Golden Sword, and I believe there were plans that a single player at any given time would be permitted to carry it out of The Golden Temple.

So yeah, I messed up Classic trying to save it. Others have messed up Classic trying to personalize it, or trying to preserve it. Now we've got a team that has carried on my legacy of messing things up in your eyes trying to save a game that belongs to all of us (though primarily supported by Stef and Steph) - a team that tore it asunder to get a wedge of it on an NPCServer, a team that managed to take the seed of Classic with the hope of regrowing the rest of it. And I wish them all the best of luck from The Tower of the Emeritus, whether you like it or not; without such well-intentioned and pigheaded developers as them and as I, there wouldn't be a Classic for you to complain about.

In any case, I fail to see what the argument is about anymore - honestly, I gave you guys Graal1998 version a AND b.

[jake13jake]

Originally Posted by Tyhm

So yeah, I messed up Classic trying to save it. Others have messed up Classic trying to personalize it, or trying to preserve it. Now we've got a team that has carried on my legacy of messing things up in your eyes trying to save a game that belongs to all of us (though primarily supported by Stef and Steph) - a team that tore it asunder to get a wedge of it on an NPCServer, a team that managed to take the seed of Classic with the hope of regrowing the rest of it. And I wish them all the best of luck from The Tower of the Emeritus, whether you like it or not; without such well-intentioned and pigheaded developers as them and as I, there wouldn't be a Classic for you to complain about.

I love you Tyhm. I thought I was the only person ever to use the word "asunder"! You should come back!!! I wish Com would come back too! Anyway, I don't believe that you messed up Classic, I believe you abandoned it.

[-Ramirez-]

Originally Posted by jake13jake

I don't believe that you messed up Classic, I believe you abandoned it.

That's precisely how I feel about it. He never really screwed it up, he just kind of disappeared for a while.

[yojimbokintoray]

i hate tyhm as a person but i love him cuz he did never do anything and if you change somthing how can it be classic?

-change is a bad thing-

[Inspiration]

Well I understand where you're coming from, Tyhm, I believe the Hera Quests were a large part of why Classic lost playercount.

No one wants to quest for hours on end to get enough items to have a decent spar, or to PK.

And when someone does quest, they like to feel like they've accomplished something. Getting a useless hera and being told you need to go collect xx more does not make you feel accomplished, it makes you feel aggravated.

If I wanted to do single player quests, I'd play an offline game.

[Nightmareangel]

I must be one of the only ones that liked some of the things Tyhm did. I didn't mind the heras so much and I even liked the races. Though I believed they should of been finished before putting them up. To each their own though...har har

[GoZelda]

Originally Posted by Nightmareangel

I must be one of the only ones that liked some of the things Tyhm did. I didn't mind the heras so much and I even liked the races. Though I believed they should of been finished before putting them up. To each their own though...har har

I liked them too.

[jake13jake]

Originally Posted by Nightmareangel

I must be one of the only ones that liked some of the things Tyhm did. I didn't mind the heras so much and I even liked the races. Though I believed they should of been finished before putting them up. To each their own though...har har

I've been wanting the Zorbi Bubble back for such a long time, but storm doesn't like the idea of anything that would affect* movement.

[p2p_Sir_Link]

The heras were actually fun. Look at other servers at people who have 20 hearts. I thought Thym's quest was brilliant. I do not blame Thym for anything that led to classic's failure in the past, or present. If Thym, and Com were both working on classic, We could get the good quests back, and great quests over bad ones. It seems like in another decade, perhaps Onett castle will be done.

[jake13jake]

Originally Posted by p2p_Sir_Link

The heras were actually fun. Look at other servers at people who have 20 hearts. I thought Thym's quest was brilliant. I do not blame Thym for anything that led to classic's failure in the past, or present. If Thym, and Com were both working on classic, We could get the good quests back, and great quests over bad ones. It seems like in another decade, perhaps Onett castle will be done.

Haha, it isn't a question of who is working, it's a question of who's allowed to work. Ex. I already have a quest tiled, and for at least the offline mode it is scripted (save the final boss and prize that I never bothered working on)

[p2p_Sir_Link]

Did I accuse of anyone of not working (Except for storm)?

[Methril]

Originally Posted by zell12

MasterStorm is working on a new overworld which should be released soon. They had to use the NPC-server, it is more secure and they can run more advanced scripts with it. Just bare with them until it is completed. ^.^;

lies