Scamming

[Mousefuzz]

first of all vote for me , *whines , *please . That over with
scamming: I dont think it should be ruled legal or illegal, part of the game , like real life. oh and your friends? They live clear across the country , not like irl friends who you can beat up or key their car or some such business if they steal from you.
You shouldnt even trust me , I could be playing along , being your friend for a year for what you could do for me , and when you loan me those gloves and mith and fhom when you go on vacation? thanks sucker , nice knowing you

[Splke]

Originally posted by Mousefuzz
first of all vote for me , *whines , *please . That over with
scamming: I dont think it should be ruled legal or illegal, part of the game , like real life. oh and your friends? They live clear across the country , not like irl friends who you can beat up or key their car or some such business if they steal from you.
You shouldnt even trust me , I could be playing along , being your friend for a year for what you could do for me , and when you loan me those gloves and mith and fhom when you go on vacation? thanks sucker , nice knowing you

o.o; thanks for warning us

[Monkeyboy_McGee]

What kind of a bloody ***** wastes a whole year of his life pretending to make a friend just to "steal" some pixels from him, anyway? XD

[thesaiyan]

Originally posted by Monkeyboy_McGee
What kind of a bloody ***** wastes a whole year of his life pretending to make a friend just to "steal" some pixels from him, anyway? XD

Too many to count?

[busyrobot]

I think scamming may be too hard to prove to totally outlaw, and if you make it so you can be banned for scamming, then the staff have to investigate every claim (you can't play favorites with which victims you help) to see if there is enough proof to ban or not.
That would chew up countless hours of the staffs' time.

Worst part of the scam outlaw business, I could give someone an event weapon, then later claim I only loaned it to him to be blessed.

You can't log PMs. Only trades.


I do think scamming is rampant and ruining the game. People get scammed - by former friends - who sell stuff for hundreds of USD.


There is no safe trade for EAing or blessing.



Maybe, we could have an in game inter kingdom trading guild, where trademasters of each kingdom (maybe a closed Guild of Trademasters so the kingdom members in that don't need to have a specialized rank, and make it so only the leaders of each kingdom can assign people that that guild).

A trademaster would be players that spend lots of time in bomb trade or are on a lot, and bascially take record of a trade and the terms, even if loaning.

If we can watch who is in the trademaster's guild closely, and disbar people if they are questionable, then we may be able to have the staff authorize that a scam in a 'moderated trade' would be penalizable.

If the idea is done badly, it would be horrilble, but a trade semi-staff, of sorts, that is kingdom based, could be good.

It would only work if new trademasters had to be approved by the other kingdoms, with some veto capacity, so that one kingdom doesn't introduce bad people into the group.

[thelostviking]

Scamming is evil, sure, and i think it should be punished.

[BLOODY-SWORD]

if ur dumb enough to get scammed it your own damn fault

[GTXOO]

Scamming should only be enforced on the trade tables.
If you are dumb enough to drop trade.
...there should be scamming tips on the entrance of graal kingdoms.

1.
2.
3.
etc...
Scamming should not be punishable.

Trust NOONE.

[Satrek2000]

As I always suggested, add a new starting task: you get scammed by a NPC for a valuable item you "find" a few tasks earlier, then anotherone instructs you about ways to avoid that in the future.

[Dehitay]

LMAO, that would be hilarious
You give that one girl a healing potion
"Thanks for saving my life. Here is a Mithril Chainmetal of Berwean +10"
The next task:
"Hi, I'll give you the money required to rent a ship in order to reach main island if you give me your Mithril armor. Just drop it and I'll drop the money"
*newb drops Mith*
*NPC steals Mith and runs off*

and the moral of the story.... make sure to change the kitty litter

[BLOODY-SWORD]

if we do that then the newbies will start 15 min of mass messages about how a "player" stole his mith and didnt give him any money

[busyrobot]

Originally posted by BLOODY-SWORD
if we do that then the newbies will start 15 min of mass messages about how a "player" stole his mith and didnt give him any money

lmao so true - that, and we'd have newbies on main applying
their new found skills "Yeah, I'll buy that mith, but you drop first."

[Dehitay]

To add even more kick to the punch
let's name the NPC Stefan Knorr
>=P

[Monkeyboy_McGee]

Originally posted by Dehitay
To add even more kick to the punch
let's name the NPC Stefan Knorr
>=P

heh, the old offline training level that used to be on the graal client was awesome, it had stefan at the front asking you for moneys.

I used to do that training thingy sometimes just for kicks, cos i was so bored. It was cool

[Dehitay]

I used to do it all the time cause I thought that's what Graal was and I got rapidly bored of it
then the next day, my friend told me I was an idiot and was clicking the wrong link
So I actually went online
>=P