Observer Mode pending removal!

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by Imperialistic

I might be mistaking , but I thought Graal already tried the whole support center thing. I think it failed miserably .

It worked pretty well except they chose the wrong software, and it had a number of bugs that resulted in a list of usernames, passwords, and emails being released for its 4,000+ members.

[Starfire2001]

If the purpose of UN is simply to get people to buy gold, and a gelat shop isn't possible for whatever reason, then...
1) Removing observer mode
2) Allowing players to play non team events (which is about half of them)
3) Limiting their full hearts to 10 out of 13 and shield power to 2 so they move slow and repeatedly get destroyed

plus the current trial restrictions on hats, sparring, and currency, would probably be more likely to get players frustrated enough buy gold. Got to at least give them a taste of what they are missing out on. Not allowing them to do anything at all interesting + making them unable to move or do anything every 15 minutes or so only makes people quit, and if they are interested in classic style graal only, quit PC Graal entirely as UN is atm the only non dev option for that.

[fowlplay4]

Originally Posted by Tigairius

How about a support center?

Force one on Stefan/unix already.

[ffcmike]

Originally Posted by cbk1994

It worked pretty well except they chose the wrong software, and it had a number of bugs that resulted in a list of usernames, passwords, and emails being released for its 4,000+ members.

Now you mentioned that it would be good if there was a way to find out what our passwords were in order to prevent the potential to be phished.

[Loakey_P2P]

Originally Posted by Starfire2001

If the purpose of UN is simply to get people to buy gold, and a gelat shop isn't possible for whatever reason, then...
1) Removing observer mode
2) Allowing players to play non team events (which is about half of them)
3) Limiting their full hearts to 10 out of 13 and shield power to 2 so they move slow and repeatedly get destroyed

plus the current trial restrictions on hats, sparring, and currency, would probably be more likely to get players frustrated enough buy gold. Got to at least give them a taste of what they are missing out on. Not allowing them to do anything at all interesting + making them unable to move or do anything every 15 minutes or so only makes people quit, and if they are interested in classic style graal only, quit PC Graal entirely as UN is atm the only non dev option for that.

I'm kinda curious about the stats concerning how many people have payed for graal since it was implemented . doesn't seem like the player count has improved at all which leads me to believe this is as successful as the support center .

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by ffcmike

Now you mentioned that it would be good if there was a way to find out what our passwords were in order to prevent the potential to be phished.

They emailed everybody on the list to let them know (2012/07/09). PM me your email address(es) if you want to know if you're on the list.

Originally Posted by fowlplay4

Force one on Stefan/unix already.

Tig actually spent a considerable amount of time doing research and testing various options to find one that would suit Graal's needs, but he never received a response from Stefan or unixmad.

[Devil_Lord2]

Originally Posted by ffcmike

Problem with suggesting a professional be hired is that it's just as unlikely as observer mode simply being removed.

I didn't actually think it would be done, only stating what he said can't be done can be done by something that won't be done. That is what I done. :[

[skillmaster19]

Originally Posted by Stefan

I'm sorry but the observer mode cannot be removed yet. Unholy Nation is a special case because it's not based on leveling or so, so that limitations are not necessary making as much sense as on a server like Zodiac or Kingdoms.
Our goal is to make Graal more free-to-play, but it's not that easy since the servers are mainly made and managed by player staff and the money is made in selling items to player, so things like the item system and economy need to be more secured. Hopefully we can do more about this in 2012.

So, Stefan, about that.

[ffcmike]

Originally Posted by Stefan

I'm sorry but the observer mode cannot be removed yet. Unholy Nation is a special case because it's not based on leveling or so, so that limitations are not necessary making as much sense as on a server like Zodiac or Kingdoms.
Our goal is to make Graal more free-to-play, but it's not that easy since the servers are mainly made and managed by player staff and the money is made in selling items to player, so things like the item system and economy need to be more secured. Hopefully we can do more about this in 2012.

Originally Posted by skillmaster19

So, Stefan, about that.

Everything said in the original quote has since been contradicted.

[dbug]

Has UN tried making adjustments to there proposal for the removal of observer mode since this thread was created? Just curious.

[ffcmike]

Originally Posted by dbug

Has UN tried making adjustments to there proposal for the removal of observer mode since this thread was created? Just curious.

It wouldn't have made any difference.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by dbug

Has UN tried making adjustments to there proposal for the removal of observer mode since this thread was created? Just curious.

All they gotta do is add instance'd houses, gralat hats, and they're pretty much like iClassic. lel

[dbug]

Originally Posted by Crono

All they gotta do is add instance'd houses, gralat hats, and they're pretty much like iClassic. lel

Instance'd houses? I know Stefan said that since its not about leveling and all that that it was special... but why can't it be limited to hearts (quests) and stuff? like 4 or 5 hearts.. i can't imagine it would be hard to have something like that done.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by dbug

Instance'd houses? I know Stefan said that since its not about leveling and all that that it was special... but why can't it be limited to hearts (quests) and stuff? like 4 or 5 hearts.. i can't imagine it would be hard to have something like that done.

you mean pay to acquire hp? no.

[dbug]

Originally Posted by Crono

you mean pay to acquire hp? no.

Well I ment as in like a 1 time upgrade.. sorta a lifetime for that server subscription. since it's already "free" to play like era and zodiac.. but i see your point.. hmm

theres gotta be something equal UN could offer tho. besides selling items. honestly maybe sell hat's? since thats pretty big over there.