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Old 11-27-2001, 11:56 AM
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I think the posts in this thread by other PW owners and staff shows there is a lot of interest and people willing to work hard to incorporate the 3d levels into their world Even if it's not available at first, I bet over time, the 3d levels will be available to playerworld owners (p2p playerworlds anyway)
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Old 11-27-2001, 11:58 AM
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I think the posts in this thread by other PW owners and staff shows there is a lot of interest and people willing to work hard to incorporate the 3d levels into their world Even if it's not available at first, I bet over time, the 3d levels will be available to playerworld owners (p2p playerworlds anyway)
Of course, over time.

I just don't see it happening until long after the official 2k2 release.
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Old 11-27-2001, 12:06 PM
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eh...
i think it looks like crap. too 3d and...not graalish
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Old 11-27-2001, 12:29 PM
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Oh please. The people in this project are exactly like PW owners, I'm sure.

So hold on a second...Stefan sets Pw Owners for failure? He doesn't provide them with the proper tools, then he gives these people a new engine with advanced features.

Does Stefan want quality out of PWs? Or does he just want some distraction?

Stefan shoould at least give us some layering capabilities, and some way to have more colors in images...alot more could be done that way.

Ugh....don't know why I even bother...
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Old 11-27-2001, 12:31 PM
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Stefan shoould at least give us some layering capabilities, and some way to have more colors in images...alot more could be done that way.
More colors? You've got a huge array of them. Who could ask for more?

As for layering, I agree, but you don't even KNOW if he's going to add them in G2K2, or even in a new G2K1 patch.
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Old 11-27-2001, 12:34 PM
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More colors? You've got a huge array of them. Who could ask for more?

As for layering, I agree, but you don't even KNOW if he's going to add them in G2K2, or even in a new G2K1 patch.
wtf are you talking about? I can't even use my gfx effectively in graal due to the problem of colors....any tileset I work on doesn't grow very big because of that....

[edit] and obviously they don't have very many limits to colors...[/edit]
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Old 11-27-2001, 12:47 PM
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Probably going to be banned for this...

Want some cool, free games? Go to station.sony.com ;-) Just a suggestion.

Here it comes, I'm about to be banned. Have a nice day everyone, mentioning other games is an instant ban.
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Maybe not. You'll probably just get ignored later on

Anyways, like trickster said, please don't ruin it like making us collect hats and get monies for our own personal benefit. Tax the people, and the aristocrats didn't go around buying hats all day, they went to salons and invested time in the arts and sciences
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Old 11-27-2001, 01:01 PM
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stop requesting things that I know are possible but just woln't happen... trust me! grr... layering... this sorta stuff makes it hard for me to support good ideas.... its a wonderfull idea and it wouldn't be too much of a strain on Stefan(and he would know why) but I just can't support it for the exact same reason... my past comes back to haunt me...
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Probably going to be banned for this...

Want some cool, free games? Go to station.sony.com ;-) Just a suggestion.

Here it comes, I'm about to be banned. Have a nice day everyone, mentioning other games is an instant ban.
Even though they aren't games which even slightly undermine Graal in any way.
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Old 11-27-2001, 07:48 PM
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I think the heads and the bodies really don't fit one another personally.
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wtf are you talking about? I can't even use my gfx effectively in graal due to the problem of colors....any tileset I work on doesn't grow very big because of that....

[edit] and obviously they don't have very many limits to colors...[/edit]
Supporting true-color pngs wouldn't be a problem,
besides the fact that they take 3 times the memory
and could cause problems for people with older
graphic cards. If its really needed we could support
that but I fear that too many people would 'abuse'
it and add images of 24bit just because they are too
lazy to convert it, and make graal more laggy than when
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Old 11-27-2001, 10:09 PM
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LOL LOL LOL

G2k2 looks so crappy!!

very crappy bodies, same old crappy heads but the only thing that looks nice is the background!

god Stefan needs to do better
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Old 11-27-2001, 10:41 PM
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LOL LOL LOL

G2k2 looks so crappy!!

very crappy bodies, same old crappy heads but the only thing that looks nice is the background!

god Stefan needs to do better


You're the only one that has that exact opinion. Shows how much intelligence you have.
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Old 11-28-2001, 06:35 AM
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You're the only one that has that exact opinion. Shows how much intelligence you have.

so, according to you, people who have there own oppinions and don't follow the masses are idiots? I must a be a rock or something.
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Old 11-28-2001, 06:39 AM
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Oh please. The people in this project are exactly like PW owners, I'm sure.

So hold on a second...Stefan sets Pw Owners for failure? He doesn't provide them with the proper tools, then he gives these people a new engine with advanced features.

Does Stefan want quality out of PWs? Or does he just want some distraction?

Stefan shoould at least give us some layering capabilities, and some way to have more colors in images...alot more could be done that way.

Ugh....don't know why I even bother...
why would you need more than 256 colors for ONE image? that is a lot for one image. it's more than enough. just make it at true color than convert it to 256
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Old 11-28-2001, 06:48 AM
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LOL LOL LOL

G2k2 looks so crappy!!

very crappy bodies, same old crappy heads but the only thing that looks nice is the background!

god Stefan needs to do better
There not finished with it *****, thats just a sample of what it is, they are adding and changing more things. Thats why its not released yet..
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Old 11-28-2001, 06:57 AM
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There not finished with it *****, thats just a sample of what it is, they are adding and changing more things. Thats why its not released yet..
what i was about to say
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so, according to you, people who have there own oppinions and don't follow the masses are idiots? I must a be a rock or something.
Well, people who have their own singular opinions which are not similar to anyone else's and are isolated, are generally idiots to me.

I didn't know that was Jack, anyway, so he automatically qualifies as an idiot.
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Supporting true-color pngs wouldn't be a problem,
besides the fact that they take 3 times the memory
and could cause problems for people with older
graphic cards. If its really needed we could support
that but I fear that too many people would 'abuse'
it and add images of 24bit just because they are too
lazy to convert it, and make graal more laggy than when
using 8bit.

Well Stefan, anyone "to lazy" shouldn't own a playerworld in the first place. Stefan, I would work on graal and make images of SNES quality, and levels of the same, if you added this. Its the one limitation I can't get past, and need you to fix. Think about it, and maybe you will realize lazy PW owners shouldn't own a PW....
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why would you need more than 256 colors for ONE image? that is a lot for one image. it's more than enough. just make it at true color than convert it to 256
Some styles require more color..have you ever taken an art class? Well lemme give you a quick lesson...more variation in colors of some relation will enhance the detail of a object alot...try it some time. Color variation will improve gfx an incredible ammount, colors you wouldn't expect to put in put in, experiment, and I promise the quality in gfx will improve.
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However, more colors will greatly increase the size of the image as far as computer graphics go.
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Think about it, and maybe you will realize lazy PW owners shouldn't own a PW....
If that happened, we'd have no playerworlds.

And I really don't want "SNES quality images," the old cartoony graphics are nice.
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