Zodiac - Save or Shut Down?

[Ceasar]

it is a management issue, delteria has hired a whole lot more developers and it usually had a similar or less playercount so that can't be an excuse.

zodiac was one of the very few servers to be fortunate enough to recieve freelance gfx help from the playerbase, i hardly see anything like this on other servers.

that won't likely happen now that it's completely dead and it will only be fixed by replacing the inactive manager, no offense but jerret only cares about classic.

[kia345]

Originally Posted by Xenoith

Well we're getting off topic. My original point of getting rid of Zodiac however still stands. It was already said PC Graal is on life support in a comatose state. I don't see how getting rid of one server would effect it any less.

yeah but we're not off topic because my entire point is that your point is dumb


graal isn't a hot air balloon. you don't need to drop off sandbags to go higher.


we don't even have flying technology.

[xXziroXx]

This might be coming from the wrong person, but removing Zodiac is not the answer. Until there's another server to take it's place, Zodiac does a much better job at being what it is now than not being at all.

On an unrelated note, shameless promotion!

[Crono]

o look the server isnt dead anymore

[Xenoith]

Riddle me this then. Why is Zone gone?
Why is N-Pulse gone?
Why is UN gone?
Why is Maloria gone?
Why is Old West/Atlantis gone?

And by gone I mean off the hub page. Not existing to where you have to manually enter the server name to join. If removing servers does so much harm then good, then why are those servers no longer on the hub page/existing?

Also please don't give me the iServer song and dance or that "Mobile Gaming" is the key to go to. When you have games like Everquest which is older than Graal and still retains players easily. PC Graal could be flourishing if those servers didn't vanish up into thin air. I actively played Maloria and when I needed a break from Maloria I went and played Zone. The fact of the matter is there was no reason to actually kill the PC client of Graal.

[kia345]

Originally Posted by Xenoith

Why is Zone gone?

It failed

Why is N-Pulse gone?

It sucked

Why is UN gone?

All of the above + bad management

Why is Maloria gone?

Most of the above

Why is Old West/Atlantis gone?

They were never more than 25% finished

And by gone I mean off the hub page. Not existing to where you have to manually enter the server name to join. If removing servers does so much harm then good, then why are those servers no longer on the hub page/existing?

I have no idea what you're trying to say. These are servers that stopped existing. They didn't try to disappear, and them disappearing didn't do anything good for them or graal as a whole.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Xenoith

Riddle me this then. Why is Zone gone?
Why is N-Pulse gone?
Why is UN gone?
Why is Maloria gone?
Why is Old West/Atlantis gone?

zone is gone because it got rebranded and released on idev/fb

un is gone because mystical dragon who the **** knows whats going on there

npulse maloria atlantis were removed when the serverlist was still competitive (hint, its not anymore)

ol west was never there

[Crono]

dont need more classes to pile onto the shitshow

[Kuzative]

I still fail to understand the idea of shutting down Zodiac. It's at an all-time low playercount but it's still in the top 3 played servers at the moment since PC Graal has a low playercount overall.

But one thing I noticed is almost half of Era's playercount are former Zodiac players...I think if Zodiac wants to get these people back then any future big updates should be done in the login news so these players can see it.

Anyway Zodiac has always had a lack of developers and that can't really be blamed on management because our playerbase isn't really full of people who can do dev for them to hire in the first place.

[fowlplay4]

I believe the theory that the server fell into the community-event feedback loop that ultimately led the player-count to drop off when events could no longer sustain them-self.

If someone wants to take the reigns and lead Zodiac to a prosperous player-count, I'm all for it.

I just don't think that person exists given the circumstances and (unpaid) time investment that would be required to succeed.

[Kuzative]

Changing manager honestly wouldn't make a difference because we have no scripters/devs on the server to hire so we'd still get the same amount of updates (which seems to be what players complain about the most).

Honestly the game got boring for me when really epic sets starting to become common among everyone.

Also we had no active ETs for a very long period of time since Tiu decided to do double duty between Dev and ETA. I was kinda annoyed when Zodiac stopped doing the monthly tournaments a while ago especially since we had a good playercount.

Well Ketso has been teasing us with a big update soon...so idk but I think it's just the end of an era to be honest. PC Graal in general is dying.

[Xenoith]

Honestly you can find scripters VERY easily. The game lacks any serious advertising. Your best bet for scripters would be college students looking to use their education on scripting to come work on Zodiac in their spare time until they land a job, they could work on Zodiac, see where they go with it and then go from there. That's what Symmasolan does and Ketso does it as well. It's practice. Reddit is one of the internet's biggest pools of people next to 4chan. People go on reddit every day, so if someone can whip up a snazzy banner/flyer advertising Zodiac, that'd be great.

You wanna know something else though? Ragnarok Online I believe is older than Graal and they have prosperous private servers that are better than the original game. They do well because they constantly advertise.

[Crono]

welp time to delete zod and add malaria

[xXziroXx]

Originally Posted by Crono

welp time to delete zod and add malaria

[Crono]

Originally Posted by xXziroXx

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