Make Graal Classic a Trial saving server?

[Hairballmunky]

It would be cool for Graal Classic to let trials save, so they can taste a bit about what Graal is....And the fact that i want the days where there were 200+ people logged on Graal Classic at *GASP* THE EXACT SAME TIME back

[Crono]

No. I dont want Classic beating Valikorlia ! We've been doing good so far.

[zs0]

Grr, NO. If Trials want to save, have them pay like the rest of us, instead of taking our valuable bandwith RAR

[Hairballmunky]

It's a server that doesnt even have an npc server
Come on, it would be fun, and the NEWies would be less NEWBish if they had a trial server! MAYBE...
Edit:Whats the point of filtering out newb's other term?

[-Ramirez-]

Originally Posted by Hairballmunky

It's a server that doesnt even have an npc server

That's going to change soon. (Oh wait, it was supposed to change "soon" about a year and a half ago too!)

As for the idea... I would personally like that, as it would bring more people to Graal (well... probably only Classic, but who knows?). I don't think the people who PLAY Classic regularly would like it at all, except for the extra newbies to torture and kill.

[zs0]

A lot of people play classic, we don't want newbs running around slashing uh, pausing, crap like that, Classic is fine as it is.

[matt8891]

I think trials should have a certain ammount of time on a server in which their attributes save...Like maybe 1-2 weeks.

[zs0]

No, that would also be stupid, and meaningless.

[matt8891]

Originally Posted by zs0

No, that would also be stupid, and meaningless.

How would it be meaningless? The player would have enough time to look around the playerworlds,collect items ect. Then if they like whats on the playerworld, they'd pay.

[vahn32]

Originally Posted by matt8891

How would it be meaningless? The player would have enough time to look around the playerworlds,collect items ect. Then if they like whats on the playerworld, they'd pay.

Exactly. The ideas here are great, but I don't think Stefan/Unixmad would approve of the one where you get 1-2 weeks free. Because people could just keep making accounts and trading items to their other accounts (if the server has an item dropping thing). I like the idea of trials being able to save on Graal Classic, though.

[jacob_bald6225]

I actually LOVE this idea, seeing as how i've mentioned it before... just think, classic would attract newer players, making a good community, then those players would join together and start their own worlds and explore new ones with pay accounts, this would also increase the popularity of the game, which would in turn join more players together and cause them to pay for more stuff! Eventually building a giant fanbase.

Originally Posted by -Ramirez-

I don't think the people who PLAY Classic regularly would like it at all, except for the extra newbies to torture and kill.

I don't see why anybody would be against this idea on classic, it would only bring good things.
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You could also readd ghost mode so that people with classic accounts would benifit a bit on it.

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BEST IDEA EVER.

[-Ramirez-]

Originally Posted by jacob_bald6225

I don't see why anybody would be against this idea on classic

I've seen countless complain about the few newbies that're there already. Bringing more would no doubt add to the whining. Not that their opinions are relevant.

[Malinko]

Originally Posted by Gerami

No. I dont want Classic beating Valikorlia ! We've been doing good so far.

What he said.

[Daniel]

mm what if the trial accounts could play free till they reach 50 or 100 onlinetime or something?

[Milkdude99]

Personally I think trial accounts should be able to save just like a normal account BUT like trial software it is limited to a certain predetermined set time ( like 30 days or less) and then the account is automaticly disabled until you upgrade it. And also to keep people from abusing this feature no one may have more than one trial account at a time. Accounts would be monitored as to IP, Credit Card info, PayPal info and all info relating to an account and if a match to another trial account further investigation would be warrented to see if the person is abusing it or just has some of the like info on his/her account. ( Like Family using basicly the same info for different accounts) Also you may not have another Trial account if you still have an open account disabled for not upgrading. All accounts you have must at all times be current, either upgraded or within the time alloted for trial accounts.
Ehh this is my idea on it..

[Milkdude99]

Nobody likes my idea huh?

[Daniel]

Originally Posted by Milkdude99

Nobody likes my idea huh?

nope
heh i dont like the idea that you can't have more than one trial account

[Rufus]

Nice Idea, Doubt it will happen!

[Milkdude99]

Originally Posted by Daniel

nope
heh i dont like the idea that you can't have more than one trial account

If you could have more than one trial account (like making one immediately after one expires) this would defeat the purpose of a trial account or the need to upgrade, wouldn't it? Why pay when you can go on like that forever? Graal is not free and to do it like that would make it free and so the game would go bankrupt at that rate..

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Milkdude99

Personally I think trial accounts should be able to save just like a normal account BUT like trial software it is limited to a certain predetermined set time ( like 30 days or less) and then the account is automaticly disabled until you upgrade it.

No.

People still play on trials and it takes more than 30 days to actually like graal. It's only restricting players more, just like p2p did when it was first introduced. -_-

[Milkdude99]

Originally Posted by Gerami

No.

People still play on trials and it takes more than 30 days to actually like graal. It's only restricting players more, just like p2p did when it was first introduced. -_-

Phooey you will know in the frist 30 minutes if you like something or not , most people anyway.

[URBANLEGEND]

Stupid Peoples

Trial Account have 1 reason only. To see if the game will work properly on their computer. No other reason for them. Trials shouldnt be able to save, Hell a UN manager got fired for making a trial saver, if you recall.

[Scott]

Hrm, my idea is similar to Moongods I suppose. I didn't bother reading this thread, so excuse my ignorance.

Trial accounts are changed from 'limited' accounts to 30-day based accounts. They can play with their newly made 30-day trial account with no limitations. After the 30 day trial is over, their account becomes disabled until it is upgraded. They wouldn't be allowed to create a new trial account either, because the website would log their IP and block it from making future accounts. This way, they either pay... or no play.

[-Ramirez-]

Originally Posted by Scott

They wouldn't be allowed to create a new trial account either, because the website would log their IP and block it from making future accounts.

*rotates his IP through his subnet mask and obtains 1530 accounts*
Simply put: IPs can change, easily. If they used some sort of wildcard mask to attempt to filter it better, that could end up filtering out people who have never even created accounts in the first place.

[Crono]

IP is not reliable. It changes, can be changed, or can be "cheated". I.e you play a lot at school/sign up at school.

Unless you ip ban an aol user I dont like it

[Scott]

Even so, the chances of people wanting to continously restart on servers with new accounts is daft. Also, I'm positive the number of people who would try to exploit it would be low, considering it would be a tedious task to keep rotating your IP and what not. :/

[Crono]

It's fine the way it is today. Why change it to something worst than restricts your freedom to play even more than they already have?

[Milkdude99]

Originally Posted by URBANLEGEND

Stupid Peoples

Trial Account have 1 reason only. To see if the game will work properly on their computer. No other reason for them. Trials shouldnt be able to save, Hell a UN manager got fired for making a trial saver, if you recall.

My idea does not change the fact it is a "trial account" with limitations and afterall that is what a trial account is , they have limitations do they not? I may have changed the limits somewhat but it is still limited and they still have to upgrade whereas now they don't have to upgrade at all and can play forever on a trial account. My version removes that option and they will have to upgrade within 30 days or they cannot play Graal so my version is better for Graal money wise.

[matt8891]

Graal shouldve been kept the same...NON-P2P....But i guess its good for Graal/Cyberjourer or whatever...I dont really know.

[Milkdude99]

Money is a nessary evil and what keeps Graal going.

[jacob_bald6225]

Why not instead of making you upgrade the account it resets every 30 days...

[Milkdude99]

Originally Posted by jacob_bald6225

Why not instead of making you upgrade the account it resets every 30 days...

Err doesn't this defeat the purpose of a trial account? If you can keep resetting it what’s the point of upgrading? Then where is the money flow to keep Graal going? That is nothing more than a disaster in the making that way. Guys this is a business and a business cannot survive without an income coming in to keep it going. "Free Graal" was nothing more than a marketing ploy to gain a player base. Graal was never intended to be free as any Game you play either online or on DVD, money is the only thing that keeps it alive. Want to kill Graal? Make it free again till it goes bankrupt then it will be gone forever, then who loses?

[URBANLEGEND]

30 days is too long moongod, id say 2-4 would be long enough.

[Milkdude99]

Originally Posted by URBANLEGEND

30 days is too long moongod, id say 2-4 would be long enough.

I just posted that because most trial software is 30 days.

[XiLe]

Sort of bringing life to an old thread, but I personally think saving on classic is a cool idea. But if you want to get more than 4 hearts, get a new sword or shield, etc, you need to buy an account! Basically you get very VERY limited features to give you a little taste of Graal. Another option is a small trial server showing things Graal can offer where you get the aforementioned 30 days to experience many things (there'd be an RP place, modern, etc so the player sees all the different themes)

Even though that'll never happen it's fun to think about it.

[Thallen]

Originally Posted by URBANLEGEND

Stupid Peoples

Trial Account have 1 reason only. To see if the game will work properly on their computer. No other reason for them. Trials shouldnt be able to save, Hell a UN manager got fired for making a trial saver, if you recall.

Right you are, Ken!

[brock128]

Why is it that all the good servers (classic/2k1) have slow managers?

[Galdor]

YESH! bring back my newbies to classic!
make classic "free"!

[Skyerus]

Let them payyyyy.

[TonyRivers]

After the trial expires there should be a kiddie server for those who truley can't afford graal / have no way of paying for it. It could be a simple place ( heck it dosn't even need an npc server) hence it would cost less for graal.