End of EoA

[Nappa]

Originally posted by Kaimetsu


Um.

As to the topic at hand (or, rather, one of them): It may seem, to the uneducated, that scripting is very easy. This is because they cannot distinguish between good and bad scripting. It's impossible to put an overall difficulty level on the discipline - some things are easy, some are not.

I know this - The point I'm trying to make is:

You will never be able to draw like a great artist, but anyone, with the right dedication and education can become as good of a scripter as you.

[ETD]

Originally posted by WanDaMan
Well it's back online, they have scriptors and it's up and running again.

Will you stop giving out 'news' updates on MY server... I don't know what 'secret' you were talking about before, and I don't know why you are saying this as well...

I and only I will make official announcments about what is happening with EoA, k?

As of now, some scripters have offered to help... but we'll see how long that lasts. I am a little skeptical because these scripters said they would HELP, but we need more than just help, we need an actual scripting team... because what happens when we are done with what we need to have to go public? We go public, then the helpers leave, and we're stuck with no scripters again? I won't have that. EoA is not going to go public till we have an actual scripting TEAM, and not just a few good intentioned helpers (no matter how good of scripters the helpers are)

[Mustang1988]

Yeah! How dare he inform us!

[TESTRETIS]

ETD dont give up man...Shaded Legend has had a lot of troubled history, everybody ended up quitting except a few other people and me. We are dedicated to keeping SL alive until the very end and get it finished. Thats a little off topic but your dream I am sure was to make sure EOA enjoyable to all graal. You can still do that. Even if your "Lead Scripter" has left, it is stil possible to make EOA a great playerworld. If you can not estabalish a "Team" as you said, try to improve your GScript skills. Well, when you make a desision to keep it up or shut it down for good, I am sure you think it will be best either choice

[CasanovaCanavi]

mmm.. Don't give up Eric.. please.. don't.

btw, let me know if your don't give up, cause I got to renew the website domain..

[Kaimetsu]

Originally posted by Nappa
I know this - The point I'm trying to make is:

You will never be able to draw like a great artist, but anyone, with the right dedication and education can become as good of a scripter as you.

That statement shows that you don't understand scripting at all. Everybody has limits. Some people's are higher than mine, some are lower.

[WanDaMan]

Originally posted by ETD

Will you stop giving out 'news' updates on MY server... I don't know what 'secret' you were talking about before, and I don't know why you are saying this as well...

I and only I will make official announcments about what is happening with EoA, k?

As of now, some scripters have offered to help... but we'll see how long that lasts. I am a little skeptical because these scripters said they would HELP, but we need more than just help, we need an actual scripting team... because what happens when we are done with what we need to have to go public? We go public, then the helpers leave, and we're stuck with no scripters again? I won't have that. EoA is not going to go public till we have an actual scripting TEAM, and not just a few good intentioned helpers (no matter how good of scripters the helpers are)

Fine so this thread is just bull **** and spam, great ETD, really great. I have the right mind of telling everyone what you tried and did you ignorant....
I wish not to conclude on my sentence
Lets just say, he isnt looking for scriptors, this is just to get noticed again.

[HoudiniMan]

They were just moved to the hosted tab before this... they were already getting noticed... A publicity stunt doesn't make sense right now, maybe for, let's say, SL it would make sense... (I don't get why people never flocked there...)

[Python523]

Originally posted by Nappa


I know this - The point I'm trying to make is:

You will never be able to draw like a great artist, but anyone, with the right dedication and education can become as good of a scripter as you.

No.

Even though some people seem to fancy themselves as scripters, some people just plain suck at scripting. It has to do with the fact that no everyone has a good problem solving and trouble shooting mind, not everyone is good at learning syntax, and I could go on and on. If you want to say that, then I can say with the proper training and such then you can become a good artist as well, some of my friends sucked at art then they took art classes, now they're amazing. I don't think that you can 'learn' how to be a good coder and that you can 'learn' how to be a good artist, it all depends on how your mind works.

[WanDaMan]

Originally posted by HoudiniMan
They were just moved to the hosted tab before this... they were already getting noticed... A publicity stunt doesn't make sense right now, maybe for, let's say, SL it would make sense... (I don't get why people never flocked there...)

Publicity stunt to get involved.
Cmon why would you say EoA is dead because they have no scriptors?, Why didn't they just post about that instead of the end?

[DMRenegade]

Originally posted by WanDaMan

Publicity stunt to get involved.
Cmon why would you say EoA is dead because they have no scriptors?, Why didn't they just post about that instead of the end?

Plans change. Obviously.

[WanDaMan]

Originally posted by DMRenegade

Plans change. Obviously.

Yeah, next week it'll be the same.

[DMRenegade]

Originally posted by WanDaMan

Yeah, next week it'll be the same.

mhm..riiiiiight

[Mykel]

Originally posted by Kaimetsu

Um.

Lol. Well, I havn't really talked to anyone lately, considering the fact that I havn't had enough Online time.

[WanDaMan]

Originally posted by DMRenegade

mhm..riiiiiight

Figures.

[ETD]

Wan, shut up, you don;t know what you're talking about. PrinceDark quit, he was my asst manager, and did 90% of the scripting on EoA... without him, I was lost scripting wise, because he was taking care of everything regarding scripts. I was tired of making threads asking for scripters, and going on servers, and asking people if they could help, and all that other BS. EoA might still be dead, I dunno. I had every intention of killing it when I made this thread... then Angel and the other GST members came on, and offered to help. Now I am seeing what they can do, and if they can actually solve my problem, instead of just resolve it, we might be back on track.

Wan, I am asking you to stop, because you are spreading missinformation around the forums. And now you are typing libel about me. This was in no way ment to be a 'publicity stunt' so back off.

[WanDaMan]

Originally posted by ETD
crap.

Wan, I am asking you to stop, because you are spreading missinformation around the forums. And now you are typing libel about me. This was in no way ment to be a 'publicity stunt' so back off.

Well it wouldn't exactly suprise me. It died when you stole it.

[ETD]

Originally posted by WanDaMan

Well it wouldn't exactly suprise me. It died when you stole it.

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Originally posted by ETD
Wan, shut up, you don;t know what you're talking about.

[WanDaMan]

Originally posted by ETD

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What arn't I allowed to post the truth now moonie?

[ETD]

Originally posted by WanDaMan

What arn't I allowed to post the truth now moonie?

Truth about what? You're posting lies.. if you want to say I stole something, then say WHY you think I stole it. EoA was my idea. Zerxus and I started it september of 2002. I came up with the name. EoA as a concept, and server has been mine the whole time, if you want to argue otherwise, I'd like to hear your arguments... especially since you were not even there, so anything you say is just what you have heard from other people.

[zell12]

I think you both should delete your posts, if not your accounts, if you want to behave like that on the forums.

[ETD]

Originally posted by zell12
I think you both should delete your posts, if not your accounts, if you want to behave like that on the forums.

What did I do wrong? o.o he's the one flaming me, and spreading lies.. I'm just trying to get him to stop, which I do not think is too much to ask.

[zell12]

Just do it in private. Be the mature one and start it in private if he won't.

[DarkShadows_Legend]

This is definitely not a publicity stunt. :/

[WanDaMan]

N-pulse? Forgot that story didn't you.You think I'm lieing, ha. ETD Let me re-freash your idiotic memory.
EOA = N-pulse, new. He stole it saying it was unactive meanwhile it wasn't unactive he just stole it saying no 1 worked on it. Since it wasn't uploaded he got rights towards it, great isnt it.

[DarkShadows_Legend]

Originally posted by WanDaMan
N-pulse? Forgot that story didn't you.You think I'm lieing, ha. ETD Let me re-freash your idiotic memory.
EOA = N-pulse, new. He stole it saying it was unactive meanwhile it wasn't unactive he just stole it saying no 1 worked on it. Since it wasn't uploaded he got rights towards it, great isnt it.

You weren't even staff on N-Pulse or a part of the original team so what is this story you speak of? Oh I know, cause I was staff on N-Pulse when this was created and SkyKnight told me all about it.

SkyKnight and some others came up with End of Ages. It was mostly ex- and current N-Pulse staff. They got many other old players to come back to help.
So the team was fairly big, and so the ideas they came up with was proposed to MG. Unfortunately he turned it down for whatever reason.

Almost all of them was staff on N-Pulse and had quit to just stick with working on this project since they were getting nowhere with any ideas suggested to the management there.
How is it stolen if he(ETD) was one of the main people that was helping SkyKnight with all of the stuff?

[WanDaMan]

Does it matter if I was staff or not, cmon does it really?

[DarkShadows_Legend]

It was discussed among N-Pulse staff mainly. Even MG didn't know about it. He thought we were trying to take over his playerworld when it was proposed to him. lol

Yes it does matter because you don't know all the details. End of Ages is based mostly on Lord of the Rings and not something from N-Pulse.

[WanDaMan]

Originally posted by DarkShadows_Legend
It was discussed among N-Pulse staff mainly. Even MG didn't know about it. He thought we were trying to take over his playerworld when it was proposed to him. lol

Yes it does matter because you don't know all the details. End of Ages is based mostly on Lord of the Rings and not something from N-Pulse.

Just yesteday you tried getting EOA N-Pulse, well ETD did x.x
And I do know what happend, don't class me as something I'm not. I'm find it being offencive people calling me a lier. Etd.

[DarkShadows_Legend]

Originally posted by WanDaMan


Just yesteday you tried getting EOA N-Pulse, well ETD did x.x
And I do know what happend, don't class me as something I'm not. I'm find it being offencive people calling me a lier. Etd.

wth. I quit like a few days ago. The co-manager for NP refused the first time and so he left, we asked again bu the main manager this time also refused.

I didn't class you as a liar, but ETD is right. You are a liar and you're assuming stuff that isn't true and making even more lies. Just look at the storylines created, the races, and all. It hould be fairly obvious that this world was based on Lord of the Rings.
I was there and you weren't so please stop giving them touble with all your malicious lies.

[WanDaMan]

Originally posted by DarkShadows_Legend

wth. I quit like a few days ago. The co-manager for NP refused the first time and so he left, we asked again bu the main manager this time also refused.

I didn't class you as a liar, but ETD is right. You are a liar and you're assuming stuff that isn't true and making even more lies. Just look at the storylines created, the races, and all. It hould be fairly obvious that this world was based on Lord of the Rings.
I was there and you weren't so please stop giving them touble with all your malicious lies.

It's funny that I hear other wise. You tried making me give my old server to EOA and then made me developer, har har.
You tried selling EOA to N-Pulse with ETD as co-owner, not selling but giving away.
Hard to believe isn't it.

[DarkShadows_Legend]

Originally posted by WanDaMan

It's funny that I hear other wise. You tried making me give my old server to EOA and then made me developer, har har.
You tried selling EOA to N-Pulse with ETD as co-owner, not selling but giving away.
Hard to believe isn't it.

I wouldn't make you developer because you have admitted in the past that you can't script and I'm not impressed with your levels. Why should I be after seeing some of the stuff Es, Senator and Spanky has made. Genesis, Knuckles, and so many others that I have seen and worked with also makes better levels than you do.

Also, why the heck would I want your old server? I don't even know you, and you don't know me. I do know that you have never played a part of End of Ages or N-Pulse during the time I have been with them, which is pretty much most of the time they have existed.

I find this all fairly funny. You are amusing wan. Please provide this proof of me getting your crap server to merge with EoA.

[ETD]

Originally posted by WanDaMan

And I do know what happend, don't class me as something I'm not. I'm find it being offencive people calling me a lier. Etd.

I am calling you a lier, because you are acting like you know what is going on with EoA, and acting as if you know how EoA was formed. I doubt anyone would know more about this than it's founder (me).

zell (or excalibur, whichever name you go by o.o) I am only posting to straighten out his posts... how am I supposed to correct what he says in private? I am not intent on changing his mind or anything, I am only trying to portray the truth, and dismiss the things he says, since they are not true.

1. EoA was started by me (and me only) September of 2002... it was my server idea... I told the idea to Juli way back then, she may remember. I had not even thought of a name yet... later that month I talked to zerXus (former LAT Chief) of n-pulse, and he agreed to be my co-manager... a month went by, and me and zerXus had been thinking up ideas for the server.

2.Around the begining of November, I suggested useing the theme I had thought up on my server, for n-pulse... we then created a team, to fine tune these ideas, for use on n-pulse. (note: SkyKnight was NOT a part of this team) Once the team had some solid things to propose, we talked to MG about it. MG, seeing a large group of his staff getting together to organize something got parinoid, and thought we were trying to take n-pulse over or something, and he shot down all of our ideas... it's funny, because the excuses he used were "we will not go back to old n-pulse, n-pulse needs to move forward, not backwards" and "We do not want to change n-pulse that much" which really contradicted eachother... somehow he was saying that we were going back to old n-pulse, yet moving too far ahead o.o

anyways

3. So then after having all our ideas shot down, I got a little ticked (as did most of the others), so I massed something along the lines of "We should just go make our own server..." then I massed "How does End of Ages sound for a name". Then X (Jill) replied, and said she'd be interested, and most of the others were as well. We then asked SkyKnight if he wanted to help, and he agreed... and set us up a forum.

6. There was supposed to be equal control between 6 people, and we would discuss things, and all that... but soon I found some people not pulling their share of the work load, and it mostly just caused ideas, but no real product.

5. Over December, till mid January, a lot of ideas were talked about, but NO work was done... In mid-January, I got ticked off, because hardly no work was being done (Ducati was doing the most), so I desided to push for more control, to be able to manage the staff better, so we could get some work done... this caused a lot of fights, and most of the origional 6 quit... till eventually I was the only one left. At that time I hired my own staff, and we got started on the actual development of the server (tileset/levels/a few scripts)

6. Since then we have been developing... *skips ahead, because there is no dispute here*

7. Resently I have offered to merge with n-pulse. This was due to our scripter shortage... Also, most of my staff is still from n-pulse, and we still see it as our home server, and we wish to help... and I was all set to agree, till Angel came on, and offered help...

so yea, hope that clears some things up o.o

[zell12]

Are you guys looking to get banned for a week or so on here? I mean jesus, use PMs before one of the mods get angry. :o

[WanDaMan]

Screw you all, I know the truth what you people just can't handle
I'm getting globalls on at me about this ****, **** it who honestly cares?.
ETD dosn't want to own up to what he did and he has you doing his dirty work, go to hell ETD you will allways be one of those people hiding behind people. I don't frankly give a '****' about what you are going to do with EOA you offerd to give it to N-Pulse numberous times and get reclined go ask someone else who cares.

[Crono]

Calm down Wan, it's not worth getting banned over.

[DarkShadows_Legend]

ETD dosn't want to own up to what he did and he has you doing his dirty work,

I heard the other day a global was looking for me to find out about a comment I said in regards to him. ETD doesn't have control over what I do and I don't have control over what he does. If you have noticed, me and ETD rarely ever post in the same thread.

I stayed away from this topic until all the lies started to come out.
You now make me appreciate arguing with Moon God. At least he provides some truth and not a whole load of bullcrap.

I don't plan on getting banned for a week so I'll stop here.

[WanDaMan]

Originally posted by Gerami
Calm down Wan, it's not worth getting banned over.

I don't care anymore, I'm sick of graal I'm just sick of it all!
Argh it's hard to say, sorry.

[Darlene159]

Either take this crap to private, and stop attacking each other in this thread, or I will close it, and issue warnings

[Crono]

Originally posted by Darlene159
Either take this crap to private, and stop attacking each other in this thread, or I will close it, and issue warnings

For the first time I have to take sides with her. Wan, I don't want to see you get banned. Just chill v_v;

Anywho, I don't really have much to say on the subject so whatever. Hope it goes good?