Kingdom Leaders?

[GryffonDurime]

Valder, the problem with Glacia is that it would be like having Zormite and Zorbi at the same time. 2 Kingdoms fufilling similar requirements in the balance of power. Additionally, the reason there cant be allys like you say, is because the kingdoms are designed to balance out, and it's unlikely that healers would ally with malenth

[Zurkiba]

Originally posted by Budda


Im Nappa. Even If you don't know me, I am most likely 100 times more known on graal2001 then you are. Anyone who states that they should be something is 99% unfit to do so. Wait until your chance comes, work your way up like i did. I was in Zormite over a year before I became King.

Ghetto Child is my bish... lay off

[Proxy]

Originally posted by Budda


Im Nappa. Even If you don't know me, I am most likely 100 times more known on graal2001 then you are. Anyone who states that they should be something is 99% unfit to do so. Wait until your chance comes, work your way up like i did. I was in Zormite over a year before I became King.

Nappa, you're not 'big man on campus' I've noticed it for quite sometime, and until someone pointed it out to me in grotesque manner, I decided to stay quiet about it.
I've noticed that- before Tseng became staff you were VERY quiet, and highly humble, you were enjoyable company.
I, personally, believe you think just because Tseng is a high authoritarian that you, yourself, posess power and authority.
And in your own post you contradicted yourself. (in a sense) You state those whom say they are qualified etc are 99% unfit, however with your superior attitude you're saying you are 99.9% unqualified, because the attitude represents self-worth, which in a large package can be: arrogance. Thus the attitude seems to, in itself, suggest you are worthy of degrading people you don't like...

[Amagius]

Originally posted by Proxy


Nappa, you're not 'big man on campus' I've noticed it for quite sometime, and until someone pointed it out to me in grotesque manner, I decided to stay quiet about it.
I've noticed that- before Tseng became staff you were VERY quiet, and highly humble, you were enjoyable company.
I, personally, believe you think just because Tseng is a high authoritarian that you, yourself, posess power and authority.
And in your own post you contradicted yourself. (in a sense) You state those whom say they are qualified etc are 99% unfit, however with your superior attitude you're saying you are 99.9% unqualified, because the attitude represents self-worth, which in a large package can be: arrogance. Thus the attitude seems to, in itself, suggest you are worthy of degrading people you don't like...

AL CAPOWNED.

It has been easy to realize that throughout the last one - two months, you've changed from 'enjoyable company' to 'big man', Nappa. Through Kae's conundrum of an own, you have basically condradicted yourself; not to mention, proven how arrogant and big-headed you've become.

I don't plan to stay quiet for too long, when it happens enough, that I can barely stand it. You have NO proof that GhettoChild would not be a grand king/leader, but suggest that he raise from humble to pompus, as shown. It seems that the king's MUST come from this idealistic group of "inner circle" users. Maybe he have RP skill that hasn't been shown or unearthed. Has anyone led and petitioned for ALL of the parts? Even if there was, he deverses a fair chance, and you need to get off that high horse.

[Proxy]

Originally posted by Amagius
It seems that the king's MUST come from this idealistic group of "inner circle" users.

Well, duh, haven't you ever heard of the "Blond-haired, Blue-eyed" race?
Jeez, we can't have people that have only been playing a year or so lead a kingdom, we need people that are idealistic and perfect, don't you know ANYTHING? Jeez, Amagius...

[Zurkiba]

Originally posted by Amagius


AL CAPOWNED.

[GryffonDurime]

Originally posted by Proxy


Well, duh, haven't you ever heard of the "Blond-haired, Blue-eyed" race?
Jeez, we can't have people that have only been playing a year or so lead a kingdom, we need people that are idealistic and perfect, don't you know ANYTHING? Jeez, Amagius...

The Kings are not chosen because they are some psuedo-Arian Just clearing that up.

[Valder]

Originally posted by GryffonDurime
Valder, the problem with Glacia is that it would be like having Zormite and Zorbi at the same time. 2 Kingdoms fufilling similar requirements in the balance of power. Additionally, the reason there cant be allys like you say, is because the kingdoms are designed to balance out, and it's unlikely that healers would ally with malenth

Well what do you think needs to be changed in order to have my sub-kingdom be "balanced" with the other kingdoms/sub-kingdoms?

[brock128]

Originally posted by GryffonDurime
Valder, the problem with Glacia is that it would be like having Zormite and Zorbi at the same time. 2 Kingdoms fufilling similar requirements in the balance of power. Additionally, the reason there cant be allys like you say, is because the kingdoms are designed to balance out, and it's unlikely that healers would ally with malenth

Zormite wasn't a healing kingdom.
Zorbi, if it's like zormite, isn't a healing kingdom. And I think you need to look up "Balance" because I have NO clue what the heck you're talking about.

Originally posted by GryffonDurime


The Kings are not chosen because they are some psuedo-Arian Just clearing that up.

Wow, that flew RIGHT OVER YOU.

[Budda]

Originally posted by Proxy
I've noticed that- before Tseng became staff you were VERY quiet, and highly humble, you were enjoyable company.
I, personally, believe you think just because Tseng is a high authoritarian that you, yourself, posess power and authority

You haven't known me very long, have you ? You may not have heard from me, but I have been this way forever. No, I dont use any of Tseng's power for my own personal gain, or think that I control him and his power. I have never asked for anything that I havent earned/deserved.

And as for the kingdoms part. I Clearly TURNED DOWN an offer to become king. And I never once stated that I would be a great king, rather that I am more well known on graal2001.

Originally posted by Amagius
It has been easy to realize that throughout the last one - two months, you've changed from 'enjoyable company' to 'big man', Nappa. Through Kae's conundrum of an own, you have basically condradicted yourself; not to mention, proven how arrogant and big-headed you've become.

I have never hung out with you, nor have I been the way I am for only 2 months. Ask someone who actually knows more about me other then I have a few staff toys and staff items. I have never hung out with you, nor planned to anytime in the future. Unless you continuously stalk me and follow me around, I don't see how you would know what I am like.

Originally posted by Amagius
I don't plan to stay quiet for too long, when it happens enough, that I can barely stand it. You have NO proof that GhettoChild would not be a grand king/leader, but suggest that he raise from humble to pompus, as shown. It seems that the king's MUST come from this idealistic group of "inner circle" users. Maybe he have RP skill that hasn't been shown or unearthed. Has anyone led and petitioned for ALL of the parts? Even if there was, he deverses a fair chance, and you need to get off that high horse.

Their is no inner circle. Someone needs to prove their abilities in order to lead something. Even if he has stayed quiet until now and hasnt shown that he does have the ability, how would we know he had abilities ? It would be just like interviewing someone for a job. I'd rather choose someone to work for me who has past experiences and shown and proved themself, rather then someone new which all I can rely on is "give me a try". The kingdoms arent my choice to make, though.


And as for anything else, as I stated, I am not being a hypocrite.. Anyone who states they should lead or be something usually isnt equipped to do so. I never wanted to be king of Zorbi, I was offered the position(again), and turned it down.

[Zurkiba]

Nappa... in my own opinion. You shouldn't have stuff like worm. And it is true that you only gained that when Tseng became Co-manager.

[Budda]

Originally posted by Zurkiba
Nappa... in my own opinion. You shouldn't have stuff like worm. And it is true that you only gained that when Tseng became Co-manager.

I got the worm when Jeff was manager and Tseng quit. How did that work out ?

[Tseng]

Ok, people, listen up.

First, use your damned brains. I'm tired of this crap in my forums. Every thread is turning into some sort of flame war. I'm very close to asking Kaimetsu to have a few of you people masked from this forum, if all you have to contribute is negativity.

One king was selected - how can you even begin to assume that you know how the selection process occurs just because one choice was made? And even then, that choice hadn't been formally made, and hadn't been formally announced - Gryffon took it upon himself to post that way, way, ahead of time. Kings are selected based on judgement of their ability.

Second, you people don't know Nappa AT ALL. Before I got in any position of power, he was louder, more obnoxious, and he acted like a complete ****ing idiot. He was jailed every other week, and banned for several months. He was always loud, very annoying, and rather a jerk to most people. I had a good influence on him I guess, or something, becuase over time he softened his language, he softened his behavior, and softened his attitude. He's a friend, yeah. So what?

Kae: you never got to know nappa UNTIL I became high staff - as your department was events admin I suppose you wouldn't have had the experience of witnessing his transgressions. You only got to know him after I introduced you two, and said he would make a good Events Team member (Which he has - He has proven himself excellent at it, possibly even better than myself in the field).

Zurkiba: When I made the snake NPC using birdbird's gani, I gave it to Nappa. Why? I do believe it was because he was an events team member, and I felt he should have the NPC. I made it - it was my decision. Nobody objected to it. The manager and comanager did not object to it. The players did not object to it. It was later removed, and then even later readded after I had quit.

Why, then, are you people bringing this up several months later? Honestly, stop trying to dig up things about me that would make me look bad. Want me to dig up things about all of you to make you look bad? I can find quite a bit, thank you. Such as Zurkiba's fun trainer usage and pathetic excuse that he 'had gone crazy' to excuse that. Such as ryanbomber's repeated posts of how graal is horrible, etc. If graal is so horrible, why do you play it? Hypocrite.

Back to the topic, Kingdom Leaders are chosen based on certain criteria. We can only judge this based on what we have seen. Should we give any newbie the chance to be a kingdom leader, just becuase they might be a good king? You fail to realize that the vast majority of people that play this game are 1) not very good RPers, and 2) not kingdom king material. Yet, you argue that anyone should get a chance, because 'they might have some hidden RP talent.' That is pathetic - why gamble on the kingdoms going to hell, when we can go with a sure thing?

All in all, people, why not think before you post? It really makes you look smarter when you do. Thanks.

[brock128]

Originally posted by Tseng
Such as ryanbomber's repeated posts of how graal is horrible, etc. If graal is so horrible, why do you play it? Hypocrite.

First off, thanks for getting my name right.

Second off, I'm not saying graal is horrible. I'm saying I don't like the way some things are run. I'm probabally going to play 2k1, and definetally oasis.

EDIT: One last thing, me, like most people, don't really play graal much, just post on the fourms, to make the best of the money unwisely spent at this point. Thenk yeh.

[Tseng]

Originally posted by brock128

First off, thanks for getting my name right.

Second off, I'm not saying graal is horrible. I'm saying I don't like the way some things are run. I'm probabally going to play 2k1, and definetally oasis.

EDIT: One last thing, me, like most people, don't really play graal much, just post on the fourms, to make the best of the money unwisely spent at this point. Thenk yeh.

Okay. I just recall a lot of negativity coming from you in the past, as in these recent threads as well. I'm really beginning to get annoyed by everyone thinking they know everything about what's going on, when in fact they don't. I'm trying to do a good job, but it seems like nobody really cares about that. *sigh*

[Zurkiba]

Originally posted by Tseng
Zurkiba: When I made the snake NPC using birdbird's gani, I gave it to Nappa. Why? I do believe it was because he was an events team member, and I felt he should have the NPC. I made it - it was my decision. Nobody objected to it. The manager and comanager did not object to it. The players did not object to it. It was later removed, and then even later readded after I had quit.

Why, then, are you people bringing this up several months later? Honestly, stop trying to dig up things about me that would make me look bad. Want me to dig up things about all of you to make you look bad? I can find quite a bit, thank you. Such as Zurkiba's fun trainer usage and pathetic excuse that he 'had gone crazy' to excuse that. Such as ryanbomber's repeated posts of how graal is horrible, etc. If graal is so horrible, why do you play it? Hypocrite.

Well... I was just proving a point. So I'm guessing all Events Team will get Worm NPC from now on.

We're not trying to make you look bad. You're bringing it onto yourself because you constantly say stuff like 'We're flaming you, blah blah'... But you're just starting to think that every thing we say is insulting to your or your work.

For one... You're closing threads that dont need to be closed. You want to know why we're mad at you? It's Because It's been a WEEK (or close to a week) when the countdown timer went to 0. Ok, you had to go to your university. So why wasn't 2k1 released the next day?

I have nothing against you. I might disagree on some of your choices.

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Nor do I understand why you want to ban some people from these forums.

[Tseng]

Originally posted by Zurkiba

Well... I was just proving a point. So I'm guessing all Events Team will get Worm NPC from now on.

No, it will remain only select few who have proven themselves trustworthy, as it's always been. (With the exception of some other staff giving it out when they should not have :-\).

We're not trying to make you look bad. You're bringing it onto yourself because you constantly say stuff like 'We're flaming you, blah blah'... But you're just starting to think that every thing we say is insulting to your or your work.

When everything you say turns into an attack on me, my decisions, or my work, then yes, I will say something.

For one... You're closing threads that dont need to be closed. You want to know why we're mad at you? It's Because It's been a WEEK (or close to a week) when the countdown timer went to 0. Ok, you had to go to your university. So why wasn't 2k1 released the next day?

Becuase the accounts were not reset. I had to take a trip there to attend a student life orientation - I had hoped that unixmad would have reset the accounts in the meantime. He has not. Stefan is back, however, and I have asked him, and when he gets a spare moment he will. He wants to see 2k1 released as much as the rest of us.

I have nothing against you. I might disagree on some of your choices.

Well, some of your posts would rather indicate to the contrary.

Nor do I understand why you want to ban some people from these forums.

All these threads keep turning into flame wars - that's why I was cllosing threads. When they had accomplished their objective, and had turned into flame wars, then they do not need to remain open.

[deman1171]

Awesome.....
And it's not Tseng's fault
he can't release it .. or atleast he wants to release it correctly.

[brock128]

Originally posted by deman1171
Awesome.....
And it's not Tseng's fault
he can't release it .. or atleast he wants to release it correctly.

As far as i can tell, only a fool could mess up the script.

I know NOTHING about scripting, but I know that this is very easy.

Excuse the fact that it's not exactly "graal" script, but it should get the point across.

if (reset=false) then
hp=100
flags=off
money=0
npcs=nothing
setflag reset=true
end

[Zurkiba]

Originally posted by deman1171
Awesome.....
And it's not Tseng's fault
he can't release it .. or atleast he wants to release it correctly.

Negative..

Tseng wrote and signed a contract with the players and future players of 2k1 when he made that countdown timer. What would happen if the New Years countdown just stopped?... Wouldn't you be disappointed? It clearly stated that 2k1 would be ready and released when the countdown hit 0 days. Well now it's -5. Nothing against Tseng or anything... but the resets should've been the first thing done. 2k1 was unprepared and the countdown timer should've been at 14 days or what ever.

[Budda]

Originally posted by brock128

As far as i can tell, only a fool could mess up the script.

I know NOTHING about scripting, but I know that this is very easy.

Excuse the fact that it's not exactly "graal" script, but it should get the point across.

if (reset=false) then
hp=100
flags=off
money=0
npcs=nothing
setflag reset=true
end

Scriptingwouldnt work too well because the player would have to log on for this to have effect. What if someone with 30,000 gralats never signs back on until this script is destroyed ? and if u are checking if a flag is false, and then ur resetting the flag, it will always be set back to false, continuously resetting everyone.

[Zurkiba]

Originally posted by Budda


Scriptingwouldnt work too well because the player would have to log on for this to have effect. What if someone with 30,000 gralats never signs back on until this script is destroyed ? and if u are checking if a flag is false, and then ur resetting the flag, it will always be set back to false, continuously resetting everyone.

Era had a script resetter... It didn't fail. and you just leave the script working FOREVER...

[Budda]

I dont think they want it on their forever. And I wouldnt either. It would be simpler for them to do it this way, and its less hackable, and will never be bugged.

[GryffonDurime]

Zurkiba, regardless of what you may think, making a series of big white letters in an MMORPG is not a legally binding contract. Nor is it in any way signed. Sorry man, it's not like he owes you his first born child. God knows he's already owed enough of them anyway.

[brock128]

Originally posted by GryffonDurime
MMORPG

Wow.

Just wow.

You know graal forgot it's roots when the high staff define it as an "MMORPG."

uber

[Zurkiba]

Originally posted by GryffonDurime
Zurkiba, regardless of what you may think, making a series of big white letters in an MMORPG is not a legally binding contract. Nor is it in any way signed. Sorry man, it's not like he owes you his first born child. God knows he's already owed enough of them anyway.

Negative...

It's not a legal contract. But when he put the countdown timer he made a promise. Which was broken.

[Tseng]

Originally posted by Zurkiba

Negative...

It's not a legal contract. But when he put the countdown timer he made a promise. Which was broken.

A promise? That was a statement based on all available information to me. I had asked unixmad to reset it, but he didn't do it in time. Stefan reset it just today - see the announcement in this forum.