Why don't you Roleplay?

[Ghost Pirate]

Post why you don't roleplay on Graal: Kingdoms....

[UNPTWOPWINNER]

I try to..but when you Roleplay and don't have others to Roleplay with, or everyone else around you isn't, it's sort of tough

[Myomoto]

i do, but people get mad at me when i shout my fanatic prayers to Ogma out at their heads :'( So i can't really RP a fanatic priest :'( *sniff* poor me :'( And when i do so and they doesn't get mad they just say "lol!!!!11" or something and start trying to PK me even though i'm not in BM

[Thallen]

Originally posted by UNPTWOPWINNER
I try to..but when you Roleplay and don't have others to Roleplay with, or everyone else around you isn't, it's sort of tough

Exactly.

[tc_topcat]

because too many peopl eare either too lazy or choose not to, so i feel my efforts are wasted...if you told us we HAD to do proper role play on pirates i will hapily do it and help to enforce good role play

[Ziro_Vitrudestec]

Originally posted by Ghost Pirate
Post why you don't roleplay on Graal: Kingdoms....

I roleplay. I'm usually in character. That's why I usually don't talk either. It's rather hard to talk when everyone is freely talking OOC. I try every now and then to roleplay with people who I'd expect to be IC (using kingdom tags).

I'd really like to see better RPing on GK. I even compiled a list of problems (and some examples), with short notes, to decide which kingdom would be the best to join. It's not ment to bash or flame any kingdom or person. It's just what information I've been gathering when looking for a good kingdom to try to join.

Kingdom Problems

Zormite
No longer fish-people (No RP explanation for this)
Freely talk OOC while IC with tag
Members allowed to have inappropriate names (Sentry Juggernaut Grimm)

Dustari
King is not on tag much
Members allowed to have inappropriate names (Citizen AzN ThY, Citizen Spike Kûñîvâ)

Samurai
Members allowed to have inappropriate names (Aacher Teddy)
Shogun neglects his kingdom also
Ranks are poorly set up (Emperor's Daughter, Emperor's Son, Emperors Wife)

Forest
Freely talk OOC while IC with tag
Aran abuses of power

Crescent Pirates
Members allowed to have inappropriate names (Disciple Gothic Flame, Citizen Fire Cookie)
Freely talk OOC while IC with tag (or bad RPing?)

Regardless of what the list says, I think Crescent Pirates (I used to favor Dustari the most, but as of late it seems like Tseng is too busy to be on tag to be involved with things) would be the best place to RP for now. But that's if you want to join a kingdom, which is usually needed to have a house, which helps build up a strong character and make money. Other than that, the best option for RPing is for a bunch of RPers to get together and use a global guild tag on GK.

[graaliholic]

I'm sure if kingdom leaders were on more often and there were more RP events, people might roleplay more often, or if there was some kind of secret RP admin that rewarded good RPing, people would definately RP more

[Geno]

if i walk up to someone and say "what are ye doin around these parts mate?" they start attacking me. which is my reason for not role playing :]

[-Albus]

The reason I don't roleplay -- nobody else does. If a few people would start RPing, I'm sure it would spark other people into doing it as well.

[LordZen]

Graal Kingdoms is supposed to be set in a time after Bomy Moon server. Truly it is hard to see any real connections between the servers, besides similar names to things. Bomies are just monsters you run into, rather weak monsters, and there is no bomy moon to speak of.

On the new islands, the Zormite republic is not ran by fish people, but is ran by a group of people which holds the Zormite people's origin's sacred. Their religious cult is based around the life giving ocean, and are respectful to their neighbors and generally peaceful.

Eh, I enforce Roleplaying names to be required. I am always getting on people about that. I have blacklisted former members for not being able to follow that rule better. "Juggernaut Grimm" I do not see a problem with, but the extent to which one deems acceptable is up to personal opinion. I see how it can be questionable, but that particular name doesnt bother me, so I never asked him to come up with a new one. I have done this with many many others tho...

Taken from the Zormite Republic's membership requirements

C) Agree to use a RP nick with 2 names minimum (ex. Tyrel Dryagite) at ALL times while wearing tag.

[DevilsDice]

Why dont I roleplay?

Umm, anybody knows when I'm on tag, I use (()) for OOC speach, and IC remarks always when IC...

If im not ontag, then, Im usually not rping.

[ZanderX]

Because I don't play.


Owned.

[Discharge]

People, you do realize continuing thinking that way is never going to help improve anything. This is one reason why:

"Joe" does not see people role-play and so he chooses not to role-play. "Mike" sees Joe but does not see him role-playing so he does not role-play. "José" does not see Mike role-play so he does not role-play. And so on an so fourth...

I feel that we need undercover role-playing agents in random kingdoms to remind them to role-play properly if they have their tag on, if not then they get banned.

[Kaimetsu]

I roleplay, but I don't want to join a kingdom. Why? Because I don't want to be subject to all the stupid regulations. What's wrong with one-word names?

[MasterNuke]

Talking as my normal self and talking as Archmage are very different... and sometimes it's hard to get ideas through talking like an Archmage...

And to add to that... I haven't found that much of a good person to pass it on to...

[--Chris--]

"Forest
Freely talk OOC while IC with tag
Aran abuses of power "

1st part, NO unless it's done between a group of friends privately or without me seeing ._.

2nd part, back it up

Aslo um...Kai, I think the problem with one word names is that it usually represents being OOC because it doesn't show what exactly you're rping as =/ No rank to show what exactly you're suppose to be, can't tell if it's the family you belong to or just your first name, no tag (not always) to show what kingdom you represent and with the tag you should have some type of RP story that says why you don't have or don't know your last name.

[Kaimetsu]

Originally posted by --Chris--
Aslo um...Kai, I think the problem with one word names is that it usually represents being OOC because it doesn't show what exactly you're rping as =/

Meaningless reason. All that you need to show that you're in-character is to wear your tag.

[konidias]

Originally posted by Kaimetsu
I roleplay, but I don't want to join a kingdom. Why? Because I don't want to be subject to all the stupid regulations. What's wrong with one-word names?

Exactly. Silly rules like that prevent people from enjoyable roleplaying. They should spend less time worrying about people having a first and last name, and more time worrying about people actually roleplaying.

[Valder]

I roleplay because it's fun... My best character was probably my forest guy because he was mute ;(!

[Amoun]

Why i don't role-play? same reason as geno. If i bother to be on battlemode to get extra exp so i can bless more then i get pked. But dustari has major issues aside from tseng in my knowledge. I mean, come on, Techumseh removed himself from dustari because he couldn't kill me since i was in Forest, an ally nation. So he removes himself just for the purpose of pking, how loyal huh? how insightful to help rp and show how well Dustari is supposivly the RP kingdom? :/ my ass, then he gets re-added later very easily despite his un-loyal factors. What needs to be done, is tho i am agreeing with some of the people who are leaders of nations now, most of the kingdoms need to just be whiped, and re-organized. I don't care about other peoples opinions on it either, it just needs to be plainly that if you want to even begin to fix things, just rping won't help. You'll always have people join kingdoms with inappropriate names. People who are given high ranks of power just because they are friends of the king/aran/dictator/Governor..... it just goes in a cycle...... if you wana fix it so badly do something aside from whining about it.

[Valder]

Originally posted by Amoun
Why i don't role-play? same reason as geno. If i bother to be on battlemode to get extra exp so i can bless more then i get pked. But dustari has major issues aside from tseng in my knowledge. I mean, come on, Techumseh removed himself from dustari because he couldn't kill me since i was in Forest, an ally nation. So he removes himself just for the purpose of pking, how loyal huh? how insightful to help rp and show how well Dustari is supposivly the RP kingdom? :/ my ass, then he gets re-added later very easily despite his un-loyal factors. What needs to be done, is tho i am agreeing with some of the people who are leaders of nations now, most of the kingdoms need to just be whiped, and re-organized. I don't care about other peoples opinions on it either, it just needs to be plainly that if you want to even begin to fix things, just rping won't help. You'll always have people join kingdoms with inappropriate names. People who are given high ranks of power just because they are friends of the king/aran/dictator/Governor..... it just goes in a cycle...... if you wana fix it so badly do something aside from whining about it.

I agree with that... the battlemode crap is annoying. People with high levels kill people with low levels... While in battlemode most of the PM's I got was "OWNED!". Kingdoms is a fun server but the RPing sucks because people are stupid and sometimes it sucks to just play there.

lol whiped

[Hydrogen_X]

I'm in samurai and never roleplay because..erm...noone in samurai even knows the meaning of roleplaying x_X
people start guild messaging things like "WOA, my AC is 1337, I bet it's the highest in samurai" and "I owned some **** in Bmode a minute ago XP", so there is no point in even trying. Come to think of it, I dont know that I have ever seen anyone in samurai roleplay at all, unless its just something like "*bows*" or something simple like that.

[Discharge]

Originally posted by LordZen
Eh, I enforce Roleplaying names to be required. I am always getting on people about that. I have blacklisted former members for not being able to follow that rule better. "Juggernaut Grimm" I do not see a problem with, but the extent to which one deems acceptable is up to personal opinion. I see how it can be questionable, but that particular name doesnt bother me, so I never asked him to come up with a new one. I have done this with many many others tho...

However, you don't seem to enforce proper role-playing.

Picture removed due to profanity. Please censor and repost

[screen_name]

Originally posted by Discharge


However, you don't seem to enforce proper role-playing.

Ouch...

[Ghost Pirate]

Personally why names are so important



As I venture out into the forest I come across OMIGODJOER0X who I ask to join me to fight the Evil Bomy Lord. We spot the Evil Bomy Lord who is currently attacking !!SELLING WARAXE OF GOVANNON FOR 13377 DIAMONDS TRADE OFFERS! We help defeat the lord, !!SELLING WARAXE OF GOVANNON FOR 1337 DIAMONDS TRADE OFFERS! turns to us and yells "F U U n0 0bs TAT WUZ MY KKILL <insert cuss word>"

What a wonderful world....

[Valder]

Originally posted by Ghost Pirate
Personally why names are so important



As I venture out into the forest I come across OMIGODJOER0X who I ask to join me to fight the Evil Bomy Lord. We spot the Evil Bomy Lord who is currently attacking !!SELLING WARAXE OF GOVANNON FOR 13377 DIAMONDS TRADE OFFERS! We help defeat the lord, !!SELLING WARAXE OF GOVANNON FOR 1337 DIAMONDS TRADE OFFERS! turns to us and yells "F U U n0 0bs TAT WUZ MY KKILL <insert cuss word>"

What a wonderful world....

sosad yet sotrue....

[Ziro_Vitrudestec]

Originally posted by --Chris--

2nd part, back it up

Back it up? Do you mean give an example or reason as to why I would say that? That is ridiculous. I don't need to get in detail on a list that I use to decide which kingdom to be in favor of. Short notes are enough to make me remember things. However, I'll take it into consideration. I may forget why exactly I said that if I begin to experience great stress.

Untill then, I need not "back it up", my memory will serve me right.

And Kaimetsu, if players have good RP reasons for having only one-word names, you're right,it should be fine. Examples would be: coming from a culture where people only have one-word names, being abandoned as an infant and not knowing his/her real name thus taking upon a short alias or new name, having a very powerfull character that happens to be like a Demon or a God-like figure, and many other reasons.

The problem lies in a situation such as...If Dustari decides that it's normal for people to have a first and last name if they are FROM Dustari, and people who did not migrate to Dustari use one-word names while living common Dustarian lives. There's no reason to that.

[--Chris--]

You can't say I abuse my power unless you have some way to prove it *****. Don't slander my name unless you can state what I did and atleast have a poor excuse to call evidence.

[Amagius]

Originally posted by --Chris--
You can't say I abuse my power unless you have some way to prove it *****. Don't slander my name unless you can state what I did and atleast have a poor excuse to call evidence.

It's moreso libel.

[LordZen]

Originally posted by Discharge


However, you don't seem to enforce proper role-playing.

o_O I can honestly say I dont ever remember seeing that, ever. The majority of the time I spend online, I am idling, not even looking at the main window, I have playerlist window open and I'm reading toguilds or pms or sending them. For the last week or so, every time I've logged on I've been standing in the same general area as I've been standing in since the beginning of that 7 day period.

Sorry, but I feel the screenshot is taken out of context. Plus talking like that is still Okay if your standing with your friend just chatting not so much in public. You should have taken a screenshot of one of my encounters with Dustarian Royalty.

And Ghost Pirate's point is very valid. Not having rules for RP names can lead to people having names which are deffinately not very immersive in the desired roleplaying enviornment...and only detracts.

I used to allow people to have one word names as long as they had an explaination as to why that made sense. Maybe some of you might remember General Thanatos, thats my best example. I allowed this for a long time, however it just made things more difficult when trying to enforce having a 2 word name with other members, because they would always say "well he has 1 name so why cant I" and would want to use something not acceptable and well, dumb sounding. So I just found it was alot easier to not allow for exceptions across the board.

[Amoun]

Originally posted by Ghost Pirate
Personally why names are so important



As I venture out into the forest I come across OMIGODJOER0X who I ask to join me to fight the Evil Bomy Lord. We spot the Evil Bomy Lord who is currently attacking !!SELLING WARAXE OF GOVANNON FOR 13377 DIAMONDS TRADE OFFERS! We help defeat the lord, !!SELLING WARAXE OF GOVANNON FOR 1337 DIAMONDS TRADE OFFERS! turns to us and yells "F U U n0 0bs TAT WUZ MY KKILL <insert cuss word>"

What a wonderful world....

OMFG gp i cracked up when i saw this lol, and its a good example! lol and funny! we need probably some comic relief discipline, teach ppl by showing them it making them look ridiculous instead of flaming them.

[Kaimetsu]

Originally posted by LordZen
Sorry, but I feel the screenshot is taken out of context. Plus talking like that is still Okay if your standing with your friend just chatting not so much in public.

Was it in public? Yes.
Was the taker of the screenshot a friend of the idiot? Probably not.

[Ziro_Vitrudestec]

Originally posted by LordZen

You should have taken a screenshot of one of my encounters with Dustarian Royalty.

So, even though you run a kingdom, are you saying you rarely RP unless it's an important situation such as speaking with the leaders of other kingdoms?

Also, I forgot to adress the situation with the name "Juggernaut". Because of the meaning of the word, it would serve more as a title. Having that as a name is just as bad as me having my first name being "Emperor". I highly doubt any kingdoms would allow me to join if my name were "Emperor"

And

Originally posted by Amagius

It's moreso libel.

At least someone knows how to correctly use words. Anyhow, I don't think it should be considered that either. I clearly stated it's not to flame or bash anyone, it's simply my personal list. After all this, thread began with a personal question; "Why don't you Roleplay?". A lot of that list is my reason for not being able to roleplay. That statement was very appropriate to put in there form my point of view based on what I have seen for myself and heard from other players.

[--Chris--]

Why don't you tell the public what you've seen for yourself? I myself would like to hear about how much I abuse my power

[Kaimetsu]

Originally posted by Ziro_Vitrudestec
At least someone knows how to correctly use words.

Well, technically 'moreso' was the wrong word to use. In that it's not actually a word.

[Ziro_Vitrudestec]

Originally posted by --Chris--
Why don't you tell the public what you've seen for yourself? I myself would like to hear about how much I abuse my power

That's an excellent idea! Then just like most threads, this can get out of topic and turn into a long chain of flames and insults with someone getting banned for what they say! Besides, you shouldn't be complaining about the list; at least I didn't catch your kingdom with people using bad RP names (unless that "Mephisto" guy is in Forest...I forgot about him and didn't list his name anywhere).

[Vixin]

My loyalty is with Dustari... or was... Long ago I had an account named "YuriaTayde", I didn't perticipate in the forums with her though. I played her for 3 months then my gold ran out and I went to classic servers, but the big deal is that back then Dustari was a wonderful place for rpers like me! Hell, I even got a bf, and got to fight in a small war with those loser samurais, who had no ooc honor and ended up stalemating because they refused to make any terms. (btw, as I heard over toguilds, Tseng and a small band of the higher levels were slaying them left and right, yeah we rock ) Anyway, then I left, and I missed the server and all this fun so much that I made another account... This one, for 6 months instead of 3.

Tseng is now an event team, I've been keeping a close eye on him and have found he's eather off tag, or on his event team tag, meening he's on as "King Tsent Nightrose (Dustari)" about 10 minutes weekly?! This is SO WRONG, but I join anyway, and instantly I'm attacked by his field marshel about my name. Tseng let me off with it and I saw others with one word names, but still he attacked me, de-ranked me, and it took me 3 days to get my rank back (I wasn't even a high rank, I started with it) I was so pissed I refused to go on tag, even for the ferry rides, I payed my 5 plat every time...
I wonder how he got such a high rank, he doesn't seem to deserve it...

I'm no longer a member of Dustari, although I still live in YuriaTayde's house which is on their island. I don't have any respect for them anymore, I descourage people from joining it, etc.

*sigh* Kingdoms has become a hell hole in such a small amount of time...

This is why I don't RP, it just isn't worth it! I can rp around a legion of OOCers, but -this- is just pointless...
:| *lonely sigh*

[LordZen]

Originally posted by Kaimetsu


Was it in public? Yes.
Was the taker of the screenshot a friend of the idiot? Probably not.

Kaimetsu I was not condoning my member saying that. By sayings its ok to speak as such when not in a public gathering and just talking with friends...I meant OOC--not cussing each other out lol. Sorry for that misunderstanding.

And as I stated, I dont ever remember seeing that, probably happened during that 90% of the time in which Im not staring at my character and my mind is on something else. So I say that screeny was taken out of context because I wasnt really there, and didnt realize that had happened..therefore was not participating in the evilness in which I am portrayed as comitting.

[--Chris--]

All of this would be avoided if you just state what I did, hell forum pm me if you want, I want a laugh or two.

[brock128]

Originally posted by ZanderX
Because I don't play.


Owned.

I love you.

Anyway...
*Pulls out chart*
RYANBOMBER/ORYAN GOLDHEART'S HANDY GUIDE TO FIX RPING

1. Like people have said, you don't need to stress out about people having a first and last name. Of course, we don't want Mr. Bob the Warrior, so it's really the recruiter's call.

2. MORE ROLEPLAYING! You join a kingdom to roleplay. So enforce roleplaying! Also, you'll need more places to roleplay! (Events? And by events, i DO NOT MEAN WARS! Wars are trivial.)

3. Encourage inter-kingdom relations. That'll boost RPing, I think.

4. This may be a bit extreme... But block off kingdom isles to only kingdoms or wanderers (RPers not in a kingdom.) So you won't be pked by SEPHIROTH5943859389843 [LEADER OF DARK CLAN] when you're trying to rp.

5. If sombody's in a kingdom and they say stuff like "omg ****," then warn them. If they keep doing it, BANZOR THEM!

Really, you just need a system going, and then everything will be fine. But right now, nobody rps because there's nowhere to rp, and rpers usually get killed when they're trying to rp. (Count the rps in that paragraph!)

Anyway, i'm done. *walks away with chart... and you notice it was blank the entire time.*