Changes to Staff

[Nemesis]

As of right now things are looking to be changing for the better hopefully.

As everyone may or may not know, all of the graal servers have managers.

Graal2001 is managed by BirdBird and Kamuii (unless he left)
Graal2002 is managed by Stefan and Unixmad
Classic Graal is managed by Tyhm.

Playerworlds are now managed by myself. I will probably gain someone else to help me in the future. As of now I am settling in and trying to fix what needs to be done.

As for Playerworld Inspectors. They will stay around, but some of the staff within will change, and if new faces are wanted to help out they will be. Psyker will lead that group and report to me about anything so we can take care of it. Any problems with playerworlds, I will try my best to fix them in the best manner I can.

Those who think I haven't done anything, are absolutely wrong. I wasn't able to do anything, not I can actually do more and help out more. So please bear with me, and when you report a "corrupt" playerworld, please inform me and have supporting evidence, otherwise it is nothing but an opinion vs. another. Which leads to a lot of problems in the end. Hopefully you all can find me. I will be on all the servers atleast once or twice a week.

But I am on and up late so it isn't hard to find me. Hopefully everyone can accept this and start a new, for graal, not for themselves. We all try to benefit the game and I hope to benefit the game by making sure playerworlds are aware of the rules and know they can come to me if they need anything done with their playerworld. I am here to help. So there will be a playerworld owner only forum to keep incontact with my team so no one else can view and I can get the appropriate help to get the job done right. Thanks.


-Nemesis.

[craig_bomy]

cough, crono left his playerworld job to pskyer not to you.

Originally posted by Crono Illusion
From here on out, Psyker has complete control over my department. I have no enthusiasm for this anymore, and I just feel like I'm doing a wholly bad job. I'm sorry to anyone I've angered in any way over the past 8 months, and I apologize for my semi-random outbursts.

[Aknts]

Are you saying you manage all the playerworlds now?

B/c there is no damn way your going to manage Krynn.. I will ban your account from there. I will manage my own damn server b/c I don't need your help with "managment"..


Also if thats not what you meant then whatever.

[Nemesis]

Originally posted by Aknts
Are you saying you manage all the playerworlds now?

B/c there is no damn way your going to manage Krynn.. I will ban your account from there. I will manage my own damn server b/c I don't need your help with "managment"..


Also if thats not what you meant then whatever.

Well if you do not think so ask unixmad. That is what he said thus it is what it is. Basically I am here to provide assistance that you may need with a playerworld. Thus getting it done a whole lot faster than waiting to talk to stefan or unixmad. I will talk to them directly.

I also handle any server problems that the owners cannot handle. But if you dislike it, I'm sorry it's just how it was made to be.

[Aknts]

Originally posted by Nemesis


Well if you do not think so ask unixmad. That is what he said thus it is what it is. Basically I am here to provide assistance that you may need with a playerworld. Thus getting it done a whole lot faster than waiting to talk to stefan or unixmad. I will talk to them directly.

I also handle any server problems that the owners cannot handle. But if you dislike it, I'm sorry it's just how it was made to be.

Like I said I will ban your account.. then you unban it I will ban it again. I don't need help from someone who can't make levels, script or do gfx. I have people who know what there doing and don't need someone coming on to "manage" them.

[Nemesis]

Originally posted by Aknts


Like I said I will ban your account.. then you unban it I will ban it again. I don't need help from someone who can't make levels, script or do gfx. I have people who know what there doing and don't need someone coming on to "manage" them.

If you do that then we will see. I will just have a talk with Unixmad.

But then again if you haven't noticed with the new system, you cannot ban a global, as Birdbird did when he banned contego, contego just got right back online. So anyhow. I rather not fight with you.

But if you are going to be immature about this, then be immature. It's sad when people are here to really help and help graal progress, people like you always have anger and attempt to bring it down saying "you can't help me!! I can help myself" anyhow. If it wasn't for them, that playerworld wouldn't be up on their servers. So you must respect their decision.

But obviously you will not, sad but it's how it is.....

[craig_bomy]

Originally posted by Nemesis


If you do that then we will see. I will just have a talk with Unixmad.

Hahaha, you sound like a little child fighting then going to tell mummy.

[Echos]

My opinion? nemesis is an idiot!

[Nemesis]

Originally posted by craig_bomy
Hahaha, you sound like a little child fighting then going to tell mummy.

Funny. But I will not argue this any further. It'll just go on how all the other threads have with non-sense.

Anyhow Craig you just like to sit here and cause trouble, but then again I guess you have nothing better to do =/

[konidias]

I don't mind it, as long as you don't shut down/do anything to the pw's without talking with the owners first.

I thought Psyker was the playerworld manager but I guess not? So what all can you do? Restart npc server? Upload big files to the servers? What?

Being a so-called "playerworld manager" is going to be one hell of a job. If you affect even ONE playerworld in a negative way, they will go crazy on you. I feel the same way. When Oasis is up and running, if something is done that negatively affects my server, I'm going to raise holy hell.

[Aknts]

Originally posted by Echos
My opinion? nemesis is an idiot!

Omg we share brains!!

but Nemesis.. I have direct contact with Stefan also.. so umm if I don't want you on my server then you won't be.. like say you log on I will d/c see so easy. Just b/c you think you can talk to be don't mean you can manage.. You got to be able to do levels, gfx and script to relate to them.. Ok.. So if you want go grap your blankey and tell unixmad..

[Psyker]

YES

I DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH STUPID STAFF MEMBERS ANYMORE

WOO

[Aknts]

Originally posted by Nemesis


Funny. But I will not argue this any further. It'll just go on how all the other threads have with non-sense.

Anyhow Craig you just like to sit here and cause trouble, but then again I guess you have nothing better to do =/

What?! your calling Craig ***?! omg Craig kick his ass.

[Milkdude99]

Originally posted by Aknts
Are you saying you manage all the playerworlds now?

B/c there is no damn way your going to manage Krynn.. I will ban your account from there. I will manage my own damn server b/c I don't need your help with "managment"..


Also if thats not what you meant then whatever.

Look Guys this is a fact , I know because I talked to Unixmad myself for a long time today and did indeed confirm what Nemesis is saying here...

[craig_bomy]

Originally posted by Aknts



What?! your calling Craig ***?! omg Craig kick his ass.

Why, its 8.30 pm and he's saying ive got nothing better to do, bye!

[Aknts]

Originally posted by Milkdude99

Look Guys this is a fact , I know because I talked to Unixmad myself for a long time today and did indeed confirm what Nemesis is saying here...

Did I say he was lieing? no.

[Neonight]

Originally posted by Aknts


Like I said I will ban your account.. then you unban it I will ban it again. I don't need help from someone who can't make levels, script or do gfx. I have people who know what there doing and don't need someone coming on to "manage" them.

You tell him.




Nemesis, I have a question:

What in the ****?

This is bullshit. Psyker was given the job by default. I do not see how some ***** can waltz in and do what he pleases.

[Warcaptain]

Originally posted by Aknts


Like I said I will ban your account.. then you unban it I will ban it again. I don't need help from someone who can't make levels, script or do gfx. I have people who know what there doing and don't need someone coming on to "manage" them.

banning a global rc acc is foolish, and will get your pw in trouble.

[Nemesis]

Originally posted by konidias
I don't mind it, as long as you don't shut down/do anything to the pw's without talking with the owners first.

I thought Psyker was the playerworld manager but I guess not? So what all can you do? Restart npc server? Upload big files to the servers? What?

Being a so-called "playerworld manager" is going to be one hell of a job. If you affect even ONE playerworld in a negative way, they will go crazy on you. I feel the same way. When Oasis is up and running, if something is done that negatively affects my server, I'm going to raise holy hell.

Yes I know about shutting things down. I have helped a lot of playerworlds sort through issues.

But then again what they do not understand is simply that I manage it in the aspect of the owners RUN their servers. But They must follow the rules of graal. I enforce those rules. Make sure they are not doing anything illegal. Also if they require help from a global admin they come to me and I help them with that and get everything done. As I will be contacting Stefan and Unixmad with whatever they need, or with whatever they require.

Manage doesn't mean I come on and take over their server. No I do not do that. I will give suggestions and come to a big compromise with the owners on things that can be done to be improved on. Their levels, their development is done how they do it, and how they want the server to look. The staff part, the people on staff is my concern. THat is what I look at. IF their server is up. Obviously it is up for a reason, thus the levels, npc's, music and everything else is reviewed and looked at by the inspectors. if they find them to be illegal, actions are taking accordingly.

[konidias]

Originally posted by Warcaptain

banning a global rc acc is foolish, and will get your pw in trouble.

IMHO the owner should be able to ban everyone except the owners of the game, being unixmad and maybe stefan.

[Echos]

I don't care about Nemesis's job, I guess Psyker is happy (read his post), but I do not think Nemesis should have FTP, the highest level of Remote Control access, or be able to remove staff members.

Either way, Nemesis is a dumb idiot and is not fit for the job.

[Aknts]

Originally posted by konidias


IMHO the owner should be able to ban everyone except the owners of the game, being unixmad and maybe stefan.

Omg I share brains with someone else also.

[konidias]

Originally posted by Nemesis


Yes I know about shutting things down. I have helped a lot of playerworlds sort through issues.

But then again what they do not understand is simply that I manage it in the aspect of the owners RUN their servers. But They must follow the rules of graal. I enforce those rules. Make sure they are not doing anything illegal. Also if they require help from a global admin they come to me and I help them with that and get everything done. As I will be contacting Stefan and Unixmad with whatever they need, or with whatever they require.

Manage doesn't mean I come on and take over their server. No I do not do that. I will give suggestions and come to a big compromise with the owners on things that can be done to be improved on. Their levels, their development is done how they do it, and how they want the server to look. The staff part, the people on staff is my concern. THat is what I look at. IF their server is up. Obviously it is up for a reason, thus the levels, npc's, music and everything else is reviewed and looked at by the inspectors. if they find them to be illegal, actions are taking accordingly.

I just pray that you don't plan on enforcing any STUPID crap like HRO where we have to report things to you and tell you who we are hiring/firing. That was some BS.

[Aknts]

Originally posted by Echos
I don't care about Nemesis's job, I guess Psyker is happy (read his post), but I do not think Nemesis should have FTP, the highest level of Remote Control access, or be able to remove staff members.

Either way, Nemesis is a dumb idiot and is not fit for the job.

Ugg too much brain sharing.. think to much alike.

[Nemesis]

Originally posted by Neonight


You tell him.




Nemesis, I have a question:

What in the ****?

This is bullshit. Psyker was given the job by default. I do not see how some ***** can waltz in and do what he pleases.

Psyker's job is to inspect playerworlds, for illegal npc's, etc etc etc. Also to inspect new playerworlds to be placed on the graal servers.

That is what his job is according to what I found out. Regardless he will still be doing his job, and be the leader of his team. That doesn't change.

[Psyker]

Hopefully somehow I can get global RC in this mess.

[Nemesis]

Originally posted by konidias


I just pray that you don't plan on enforcing any STUPID crap like HRO where we have to report things to you and tell you who we are hiring/firing. That was some BS.

No, anything to do with hiring and firing goes through unixmad.

I will not make those decisions unless it is an absolute must, it never has came to that. The past is in the past. This is a new. I haven't done anything yet.

HRO team wasn't fully explained thus why it wasn't taken in correctly and it was messed up bad.

This is no where near that, where I fire owners. Owners will be removed by Stefan or Unixmad if it's come to be that way.

[Nemesis]

Originally posted by Psyker
Hopefully somehow I can get global RC in this mess.

I already sent you a pm to let you know what about it. But I cannot actually do things when everyone is jumping on me when I haven't actually did my job yet. We have to talk about some things and when thats cleared up we can progress forward =D

[Neonight]

Originally posted by Nemesis


Psyker's job is to inspect playerworlds, for illegal npc's, etc etc etc. Also to inspect new playerworlds to be placed on the graal servers.

That is what his job is according to what I found out. Regardless he will still be doing his job, and be the leader of his team. That doesn't change.

So let me see. Psyker is now psychic and can tell the script of a NPC my saying "give me script <namehere>" ?????????????
You need to have RC to see if any NPCs are illegal if they have (npcserver).

[Nemesis]

Originally posted by Neonight



So let me see. Psyker is now psychic and can tell the script of a NPC my saying "give me script <namehere>" ?????????????
You need to have RC to see if any NPCs are illegal if they have (npcserver).

Once again I already put above that I have to talk to him.

[_0AfTeRsHoCk0_]

I think the idea is okay, as long as playerworld owners still havr the control over their PW's, and they can't be overrun by Nemesis. But he definately should have a big say in what goes on, and how staff are menaged, kind of like an inspector on a different spectrum. Maybe he can help avoid things like UN crisis

[WHIPENIE4]

I agree with Kondias on this one, as long as you don't shut down the servers or do anything without the owners permission it should be fine.

I don't see what the big fuss is, nor do I see how Nemisis is an "idot" or a "*****" because of this.

If Nemisis can act mature and not abuse his powers then everything should go well.

[edit] Someone delete Echo's post there useless and annoying. [/edit]

[Milkdude99]

Originally posted by Echos
I don't care about Nemesis's job, I guess Psyker is happy (read his post), but I do not think Nemesis should have FTP, the highest level of Remote Control access, or be able to remove staff members.

Either way, Nemesis is a dumb idiot and is not fit for the job.

And If I was a member of this "team" you would say the same about me ... yet only the people who fit your standards should have the job... Look Give Unixmad credit for hiring someone who he believes in so just reserve judgement on what is to happen till it is all set and done and everything is working as it is laid out for you . Then if you have a complaint on it then try to work it out with the powers at be....

[Nemesis]

Originally posted by _0AfTeRsHoCk0_
I think the idea is okay, as long as playerworld owners still havr the control over their PW's, and they can't be overrun by Nemesis. But he definately should have a big say in what goes on, and how staff are menaged, kind of like an inspector on a different spectrum. Maybe he can help avoid things like UN crisis

Yes after, that is exactly what we decided to do. But most people just jump all over me saying stuff.

I am not here to OVERRUN anyone. I am here to help. If that situation arises, I will try to avoid it. But if unixmad or stefan removes someone, that ultimately came from them. I am here to basically make sure everyone is on the same ground as staff management goes and rights for staff, and how staff is conducted.

Owners still have control over their playerworld. I will not get on and start giving everyone this and firing this guy for whatever reason. THe owner or the chief of staff deals with that. I just try to come up with solutions and compromises to make everyone happy. With also getting owners what they need to run their playerworld sufficiently

[Nemesis]

Originally posted by WHIPENIE4
I agree with Kondias on this one, as long as you don't shut down the servers or do anything without the owners permission it should be fine.

I don't see what the big fuss is, nor do I see how Nemisis is an "idot" or a "*****" because of this.

If Nemisis can act mature and not abuse his powers then everything should go well.

[edit] Someone delete Echo's post there useless and annoying. [/edit]

I will not abuse my powers. Trust me, I take my job seriously and only want the best for graal and to progress it into the future =D

[iniquitus]

I really wish everyone would get of Nemesis' back. This is exacily what PW's need. If any of you would actualy read what the guy wrote he said he will try to "help" playerworlds that need it, not "shutdown any playerworld I like". I do think that Psyker should also help out with this job, because only having one person makes it tough on that person... you always need a backup to cover when you can't be arround-- and I don't think anyone here doubts Psyker's abilities.

People seem to forget that PW's are still owned by Graal Online-- up until now they've pretty much been able to do whatever they want-- but as Graal gets bigger and more popular, the need for quality control and censorship also comes.

I, for one, am glad to see that PWA will be getting organised and have more control over the PW's. As for doing anything "damaging" to the PW's? The PWA works FOR Graal, not against it... why would they do anything harmfull to a server?

Originally posted by Aknts
Are you saying you manage all the playerworlds now?

B/c there is no damn way your going to manage Krynn.. I will ban your account from there. I will manage my own damn server b/c I don't need your help with "managment"..


Also if thats not what you meant then whatever.

Wow-- You are a *****, do you even have a server yet? Nemesis is HIRED to do this by Stefan and Unixmad. So your basicaily giving Stefan the finger by saying this. You should respect Stefan and Unixmad enough to accept this, if you can't, why do you want a PW on Graal? If you can't follow the rules, the you should never go online to begin with. If you can follow the rules, then you should have nothing to worry about-- what are you hiding?

Arg... Get ready for a 3 day flame-war people... this one is looking ugly.

Urizen

[Nemesis]

Originally posted by iniquitus
Wow-- You are a *****, do you even have a server yet? Nemesis is HIRED to do this by Stefan and Unixmad. So your basicaily giving Stefan the finger by saying this. You should respect Stefan and Unixmad enough to accept this, if you can't, why do you want a PW on Graal? If you can't follow the rules, the you should never go online to begin with. If you can follow the rules, then you should have nothing to worry about-- what are you hiding?

Amen. Finally people are understanding and believe that something is going to be good out of this. I am not here to harm graal or someone's playerworld. Heck I like almost all the playerworlds, except those who have staff that are unfair to players. But those will be worked on and corrected in the future with a lot of work and compromises =D

Big issue with playerworlds is trust. If you do not trust your staff, do not hire them. IF you hire them and still cannot trust them. Do not have them on staff. It is your playerworld. Thus having them still and treating them unfair causes problems =/

[Python523]

I myself think this is a better thing, playerworlds need someone in command to communicate between the playerworlds and to stefan, the playerworld administration might have been able to do that if someone would've given them actual power

[iniquitus]

Also...

Don't go out and make someone you don't know a GP or Admin or something stupid like that. Unless you know the people you're hiring-- start them off low-- at a place where they can do little damage-- Give them plenty of opertunities for them to turn against you or the server, just don't let them know your watching... If you pay attention to the actions of your staff then you can usualy weed out the ones who are in it for the power, and the ones who are in it to help others.

Same goes for staff-- if you work for an owner who constantly contradicts him/herself by setting rules and breaking them... get out. Thats not a fun situaution and will usualy end up with someone being hurt, or even angry.

Perhaps each PW should write up what system they will use for staff-- like a policies and procedures manual for each server, and they would be held to the rules they create for themselfs... This way diffrenet servers could run diferently, but still have rules, for example, an RP server may run diffrently from a Classic server, e.g. no FAQ, GP, etc...

Just some thoughts.

Urizen

[Aknts]

Originally posted by iniquitus

Wow-- You are a *****, do you even have a server yet? Nemesis is HIRED to do this by Stefan and Unixmad. So your basicaily giving Stefan the finger by saying this. You should respect Stefan and Unixmad enough to accept this, if you can't, why do you want a PW on Graal? If you can't follow the rules, the you should never go online to begin with. If you can follow the rules, then you should have nothing to worry about-- what are you hiding?

Arg... Get ready for a 3 day flame-war people... this one is looking ugly.

Urizen

Yes I do.. you f*cken idiot.