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Old 04-12-2002, 10:50 AM
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Yawns... Graal Stinks

Well it has gotten to the point of after paying the money that I thought would be a deal... I HATE GRAAL... I dont want to stop playing it because I payed fori t... but I have 50 decompression errors every 5 steps... I cant even play the game now and it's pissing me off...

You want to charge everyone a lot of money now? After your game doesnt even work right... GET IT TO WORK FOR XP BEFORE YOU CHARGE PEOPLE MORE!

Gheez... on your forums you have tons of flamers... almost no people saying oh its alright but try to fix this and that they are more like

ITS SUCKS HAHAHA YOU SUCK! HAHAHA

Gheez... *yawns* back to making my own MMORPG

Will someone please fix the Decrompession Errors? It's annoying I want to play but I cant... Your people suck and all they know is being mean... if you go to any other Diablo II you get a bigger variety of nice people willing to help than people that just want to PK YOU....

*yawns* TIME TO GET FLAMED
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Old 04-12-2002, 10:56 AM
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Hey, it works fine with XP, just not YOUR computer.
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Old 04-12-2002, 10:59 AM
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Hmm that's interesting... Considering it doesnt work on any of my computers or my friends... GRAAL JUST SUCKS and they should charge a max of $1 a month... with this new policy they will loost probably 200 users a day
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Old 04-12-2002, 11:04 AM
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Alot of people here run Graal fine with XP. I have no problem at all.
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Old 04-12-2002, 11:05 AM
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GRAAL IS A JOKE! A JOKE! I mean your webpage is HIGHLY outdated.. you charge insane prices for a 2d game which uses the engine of a zelda game... you COMPLETELY dont know abuot LAW as you say like players cant use gfx made by other PW's when in NO WAY is any of those copyrighted in any way...

You are going to charge $15 grrrr I sign on Sanstrata put on a tag and I am dissed saying I am a noob by noobs! haha... this is funny...

BTW, I do know that it is their game and they have the right to charge as much as they want but I dont beileve its a good choice... Owning a bussiness I know what it feels like to only get a few thousand a month... but with my hard work I make enough to pay for everything... if they were smart they would work out a pay system that JUST pays for their servers and maybe a little on the side for them right now I think they will get a few thousand more dollars and THEY will spend it on them as of now, my staff gets MINIMAL money and everything goes to my bussiness's success. (It has to do with gaming and game creation)

Why arent I getting flamed yet?
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Old 04-12-2002, 11:12 AM
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GRAAL IS A JOKE! A JOKE! I mean your webpage is HIGHLY outdated.. you charge insane prices for a 2d game which uses the engine of a zelda game... you COMPLETELY dont know abuot LAW as you say like players cant use gfx made by other PW's when in NO WAY is any of those copyrighted in any way...

You are going to charge $15 grrrr I sign on Sanstrata put on a tag and I am dissed saying I am a noob by noobs! haha... this is funny...

BTW, I do know that it is their game and they have the right to charge as much as they want but I dont beileve its a good choice... Owning a bussiness I know what it feels like to only get a few thousand a month... but with my hard work I make enough to pay for everything... if they were smart they would work out a pay system that JUST pays for their servers and maybe a little on the side for them right now I think they will get a few thousand more dollars and THEY will spend it on them as of now, my staff gets MINIMAL money and everything goes to my bussiness's success. (It has to do with gaming and game creation)

Why arent I getting flamed yet?
Go get slowly digested by a venus fly trap.
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Insane prices? Everquest goes at 15 a month. Graal is offering the same for six months, I believe. That is as close to fair prices as you're going to get. As for the whole engine thing - it doesn't use the Zelda engine, nor does it have even half of its limitation. In it's current state, Graalscript in conjunction with an NPC Server can be used to do just about anything 2D - I mean, we've got entirely new races, Capture The Flag and even a Tetris clone, all programmed in Graalscript. Zelda's engine could not do half of that.
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Old 04-12-2002, 11:15 AM
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*yawns*... Everquest has a long playability rate though oh well im not coming back to this thread so feel free to flame me
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Old 04-12-2002, 11:23 AM
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...

I'm not even going to start.

All I'm going to say is this: Graal cannot stink. It is a game, inside a computer, and therefore has odour. Sorry.

Oh, and you will be back to this thread. Everyone comes back to their threads like these.
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Old 04-12-2002, 12:04 PM
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GRAAL JUST SUCKS and they should charge a max of $1 a month... with this new policy they will loost probably 200 users a day
You sir, lose.

HAVE YOU SEEN BANDWIDTH COSTS? With the general amount of P2P accounts, Stefan and unixmad would be making an average of $200 a month. And while to you, the freeloader who thinks that everyone who hosts a game has a magical bandwidth tree growing in their backyard, this may seem like a lot, IT ISN'T. unixmad must cover both the costs of the server, his office space, employee salary, living costs, food, clothing, EVERYTHING. I'd like to see you pay for all this with $200 MONTHLY.

These new costs are necessary to KEEP THE SERVERS ALIVE. Don't like it? Tough. Leave. Don't come whining on these boards because now you have to shell out $15 measly bucks from your wallet to pay for a fairly good game.
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Old 04-12-2002, 12:21 PM
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Way to go Vermain. Give it too him good >=D


It's so true. I'm completely for paying for Graal, as long as the rates don't get too high, and the quality still ranks high.
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Re: Yawns... Graal Stinks

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GET IT TO WORK FOR XP BEFORE YOU CHARGE PEOPLE MORE!

Works fine on xp for me only problem is it eats resources for some reason.
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you COMPLETELY dont know abuot LAW as you say like players cant use gfx made by other PW's when in NO WAY is any of those copyrighted in any way...
The 'laws' on Graal are whatever Stefan/Unixmad decide, you mentally deficient buffoon.
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Old 04-12-2002, 03:16 PM
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Too lazy to quote the original post...

Hi. If you don't like Graal, just stop playing. The concept is simple. Also, your computer must not be all that good. I run Windows XP on a COMPAQ with a Celeron processor, and I have virtually no problems with Graal.
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Old 04-12-2002, 04:08 PM
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Please post bug reports directly in the bugs forum. I haven't got complains lately about the compression thing, so how should we know there is a problem? It would be interesting to know on which servers you get the problem etc. so that we can try to find out what the problem is.
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Old 04-12-2002, 04:58 PM
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I have windows XP and graal runs faster and better on it than my old WindowsME
Duno what the probem with yours ir.
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Old 04-12-2002, 07:25 PM
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As half of the populatoin here already seems to have posted, Graal works fine on Windows XP. Are you certain that you really have Windows XP, since some people have problems running it under Windows 2000 and both are pretty much equal to each other.
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Old 04-12-2002, 09:27 PM
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I have windows XP and graal runs faster and better on it than my old WindowsME
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I sign on Sanstrata put on a tag and I am dissed saying I am a noob by noobs!
Haha. *flame*
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Old 04-13-2002, 12:22 AM
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Please post bug reports directly in the bugs forum. I haven't got complains lately about the compression thing, so how should we know there is a problem? It would be interesting to know on which servers you get the problem etc. so that we can try to find out what the problem is.
he doesnt want to try and get it fixed he just wants something to whine and cry about. I mean if I wanted help I wouldnt sit there insult and trash every thing related to the person I wanted help from because then if I was the person getting insulted I'd take there problem and tell them exactly where they could put it.
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Old 04-13-2002, 12:29 AM
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Graal is not expensive.
If you think graal sucks then leave.
We dont want people like that here anyway.
Graal works fine with xp.
How do I know?
My friends has it.
Its your com thats messed up.
No one asked you to pay the money for it, it was your decision.
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If there are ALWAYS decompression errors then I would say the Internet connection has some problems, like some packet filter is doing stuff (child protection? company firewall? )
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Old 04-13-2002, 05:19 AM
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Well, I dont use my bussiness computer, thats in the other room from me I dont wanna screw that computer up it was $12,000... And about the bandwidth thing... Bandwidth isn't all that much...

http://www.rackshack.net

I do not say we should NOT pay for graal I just think there are to many ways of improving graal and at the same time making more money. $200 monthly.. I am afraid they get more than that. With ONE banner ad at the bottom of the page using impressions... They could make clost to $500 a month extra. Hmm... Let's see one banner ad would you mind that? NO! I actually think they should lower prices and put banners up

http://www.doubleclick.net
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http://www.doubleclick.com

Not sure which it is. Im still waiting for stefan to respond to a PM btw Stefan

Here is what I get

Sanstrata: Compression errors every other step
Andor: Compression Errors every couple of minutes

When I restart my computer I get a blue screen saying

"Beginning Physical Memory Dump"

My screen then screws up and restarts. Sometimes, this happens multiple times. (People have told me it's because of WinXP and Graal)

RC Also gets mass compression Errors on Andor and Sanstrata.\

I have a T3 connection on my buss computer but I use a cable on this one. Media One(obviously) no firewall, I disabled the one that XP comes with...
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Old 04-13-2002, 06:46 AM
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If there are ALWAYS decompression errors then I would say the Internet connection has some problems, like some packet filter is doing stuff (child protection? company firewall? )
Umm.... I get Errer's about some canvas thing when in Editor...
And, when I add Graphics to a level, some times when I test it out (Presssing the Play Buttion) It freezes, and the level turns to all grass
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Old 04-14-2002, 11:34 AM
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yeah I get Can not draw on canvas or soemthing and Variant is not an array but thats when you have two things selected... (select soemthing that put down a door)
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Well reinstall graal, then if that no work, reinstall windows, and if to no prevail go to 98...
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yeah I get Can not draw on canvas or soemthing and Variant is not an array but thats when you have two things selected... (select soemthing that put down a door)
I think I just fixed that bug, in the new exe
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I think I just fixed that bug, in the new exe
yay! *dances*
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GRAAL IS A JOKE! A JOKE! I mean your webpage is HIGHLY outdated.. you charge insane prices for a 2d game which uses the engine of a zelda game... you COMPLETELY dont know abuot LAW as you say like players cant use gfx made by other PW's when in NO WAY is any of those copyrighted in any way...

If Graal used the Zelda engine, everything would be five million times slower.

You are going to charge $15 grrrr I sign on Sanstrata put on a tag and I am dissed saying I am a noob by noobs! haha... this is funny...

Fifteen dollars for a lifetime account is VERY cheap.

BTW, I do know that it is their game and they have the right to charge as much as they want but I dont beileve its a good choice... Owning a bussiness I know what it feels like to only get a few thousand a month... but with my hard work I make enough to pay for everything... if they were smart they would work out a pay system that JUST pays for their servers and maybe a little on the side for them right now I think they will get a few thousand more dollars and THEY will spend it on them as of now, my staff gets MINIMAL money and everything goes to my bussiness's success. (It has to do with gaming and game creation)

Unless your name is Stefan Knorr or Stephane ******, I'm sure nobody could really give a crap...

Why arent I getting flamed yet?
Because people see it as a waste of typing.

[edit] Seems unixmad bleeps out his own last name X_X [/edit]
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Old 04-22-2002, 05:10 AM
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Wow. You're eerily *****ic. You own a business that makes thousands of dollars per month and run it not-for-profit. I take it you're the CEO? And you've scaled back the staff to one person? =_=

If you don't pay Stefan, he'll go work for another company. Graal cannot survive without Stefan, therefore Graal cannot survive without paying Stefan to continue coding it.
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