Wow, someone needs to be fired.

Valder · #1 02-08-2002, 12:34 PM

Birdbird just had to PM me something because I told him that making a known hacker and exploiter of bugs, bugs admin was stupid. Bottom to top please

*Valder (2/7/2002 12:26:46 AM):
You know what
I didn't do anything to you to get that kind of treatment
but being the bigger person I am not going to make fun of you
*Valder (2/7/2002 12:26:01 AM):
gee thanks
*Valder (2/7/2002 12:25:56 AM):
he was even banned for it
*Birdbird_0 (2/7/2002 12:25:54 AM):
go away and die please
*Valder (2/7/2002 12:25:45 AM):
He hacks, and he used to exploit bugs

He used that hack thing to get all the hats
*Birdbird_0 (2/7/2002 12:25:19 AM):
why
*Valder (2/7/2002 12:24:42 AM):
HAHAHAHA
that was dumb of you to make Soto bugs admin.

Valder · #2 02-08-2002, 12:37 PM

That reminded me why I don't want to reupgrade.

psihunter · #3 02-08-2002, 12:39 PM

Soto just got it just because
I don't think he should be it either
I can't believe he got on the police force
And really there isn't a need for a bug admin in the first place!

Valder · #4 02-08-2002, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by psihunter
Soto just got it just because
I don't think he should be it either
I can't believe he got on the police force
And really there isn't a need for a bug admin in the first place!

The reason soto got it is because he is friends with Birdbird and they talk on the phone a lot.

AlkarenHyralt · #5 02-08-2002, 12:44 PM

ZeroFXSM · #6 02-08-2002, 12:54 PM

15 days.. then I'm gone for good

Kaimetsu · #7 02-08-2002, 12:57 PM

:-/

How can you hack hats? The values are stored serverside, so the most you could do is exploit a bug.

psihunter · #8 02-08-2002, 01:01 PM

Soto really likes himself

Valder · #9 02-08-2002, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kaimetsu
:-/

How can you hack hats? The values are stored serverside, so the most you could do is exploit a bug.

Well, there was a way. Someone made some kind of trainer to get the hats, don't ask me how, but he showed me that he had them all.

Kaimetsu · #10 02-08-2002, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Valder

Well, there was a way. Someone made some kind of trainer to get the hats, don't ask me how, but he showed me that he had them all.

Yeah, sure.

Torankusu · #11 02-08-2002, 01:10 PM

I believe it was birdbird who watched me and him trade alot of stuff for my naifets, and he had ALOT of hats that wouldn't drop.

I think Valder is right on this one. It was a horrible mistake.

Valder · #12 02-08-2002, 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kaimetsu

Yeah, sure.

Kai, please don't argue, there was a trainer and he was banned for it, as well as other people.

psichill · #13 02-08-2002, 01:17 PM

Err.. Graal is one big bum.

Kaimetsu · #14 02-08-2002, 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Valder

Kai, please don't argue, there was a trainer and he was banned for it, as well as other people.

Okay, fair enough, I'll take your word for it. But I'd like to know more about this thing, because I can't imagine how it exists unless the staff were stupid enough to use normal strings to store the hats or something.

Torankusu · #15 02-08-2002, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kaimetsu

Okay, fair enough, I'll take your word for it. But I'd like to know more about this thing, because I can't imagine how it exists unless the staff were stupid enough to use normal strings to store the hats or something.

This is probably what happened, and then they changed it.

When birdbird told me my hat list, it was like
client.hat###=how many i had.

Kaimetsu · #16 02-08-2002, 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Torankusu
This is probably what happened, and then they changed it.

When birdbird told me my hat list, it was like
client.hat###=how many i had.

But surely, surely they must've kept a master non-client string that merely updated the client one.

Torankusu · #17 02-08-2002, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kaimetsu

But surely, surely they must've kept a master non-client string that merely updated the client one.

I'm not the person to ask.

Considering the only access I have to the server is logging onto it, which is limitted.

Valder · #18 02-08-2002, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kaimetsu

But surely, surely they must've kept a master non-client string that merely updated the client one.

They have it now, but they didn't use to.

Kaimetsu · #19 02-08-2002, 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Valder

They have it now, but they didn't use to.

...

Whoever made the hat system must be pelted with tomatoes.

(Incidentally, I doubt they use that two-string system now that clientr strings are available)

Birdbird_0 · #20 02-08-2002, 03:19 PM

I hired him because out of all the people that cryed for the job, he actualy did report bugs to me for the past month before he had it.
he finds alot of the bugs since he is on so much, and most of the players out there don't report the bugs like he does.

If you guys don't like it though.

I didn't hire him because we play cs together, I hired him because I'm confident he can do the job a hell of alot better than you people that keep yapping about it.

And I said that to Valder Because I was sick of people complaining about it.

What would you rather me do, Hire Brad? pifft.

Kaimetsu · #21 02-08-2002, 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Valder

Well, there was a way. Someone made some kind of trainer to get the hats, don't ask me how, but he showed me that he had them all.

Since this now turned out to be true, I apologise to Valder. Too often I speak without thinking.

Birdbird_0 · #22 02-08-2002, 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Valder

Well, there was a way. Someone made some kind of trainer to get the hats, don't ask me how, but he showed me that he had them all.

In the case with soto and the hats, ShadowKnight was adding a nice feature so if you have the staff tag you can were all the hats, Soto found the bug that enables you to have all the hats withought the staff tag after doing such and such.

Srange Iorny of how that turned out huh -_-

After that it was fixed.

NeoNPL · #23 02-08-2002, 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Birdbird_0

ShadowKnight was adding a nice feature so if you have the staff tag you can were all the hats

Yet another nice little 'toy'.
Im going to guess that FAQ and Police were left out of this little 'ring of hats'? Along with Torankusu.

Isnt it strange how for the last couple of weeks now every update made and designed by admins seems to only be for the admins? (Lazer tag was made by SLP who isnt an admin).

Kaimetsu · #24 02-08-2002, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Birdbird_0

In the case with soto and the hats, ShadowKnight was adding a nice feature so if you have the staff tag you can were all the hats, Soto found the bug that enables you to have all the hats withought the staff tag after doing such and such.

So it wasn't a trainer? Then I was right!

ArchOwl · #25 02-08-2002, 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Birdbird_0
I hired him because out of all the people that cryed for the job, he actualy did report bugs to me for the past month before he had it.
he finds alot of the bugs since he is on so much, and most of the players out there don't report the bugs like he does.

If you guys don't like it though.

I didn't hire him because we play cs together, I hired him because I'm confident he can do the job a hell of alot better than you people that keep yapping about it.

And I said that to Valder Because I was sick of people complaining about it.

What would you rather me do, Hire Brad? pifft.

well, since it is BUGs admin....
hire hero mcdohl, googi, or joshthen64 guy, and they will all do a good job of being bugs admin

(ok so that was lame but who cares)

Loriel · #26 02-08-2002, 07:44 PM

I believe there actually was a trainer that gave you all of the client. strings for hats, so you could wear them, but just not lay them.

cds96 · #27 02-08-2002, 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Loriel
I believe there actually was a trainer that gave you all of the client. strings for hats, so you could wear them, but just not lay them.

anna knew how to get them

Birdbird_0 · #28 02-08-2002, 07:50 PM

anna was street smart in the hacking programs :ox

Kaimetsu · #29 02-08-2002, 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Loriel
I believe there actually was a trainer that gave you all of the client. strings for hats, so you could wear them, but just not lay them.

Well if the system is that simple then I bet I could write a program right now to do the same thing. Setplayerprop should be serverside only.

Secret_Agent · #30 02-08-2002, 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Valder
Birdbird just had to PM me something because I told him that making a known hacker and exploiter of bugs, bugs admin was stupid. Bottom to top please

*Valder (2/7/2002 12:26:46 AM):
You know what
I didn't do anything to you to get that kind of treatment
but being the bigger person I am not going to make fun of you
*Valder (2/7/2002 12:26:01 AM):
gee thanks
*Valder (2/7/2002 12:25:56 AM):
he was even banned for it
*Birdbird_0 (2/7/2002 12:25:54 AM):
go away and die please
*Valder (2/7/2002 12:25:45 AM):
He hacks, and he used to exploit bugs

He used that hack thing to get all the hats
*Birdbird_0 (2/7/2002 12:25:19 AM):
why
*Valder (2/7/2002 12:24:42 AM):
HAHAHAHA
that was dumb of you to make Soto bugs admin.

Haha, Your lucky if bird bird talkes to you

AlkarenHyralt · #31 02-08-2002, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Birdbird_0

In the case with soto and the hats, ShadowKnight was adding a nice feature so if you have the staff tag you can were all the hats, Soto found the bug that enables you to have all the hats withought the staff tag after doing such and such.

Srange Iorny of how that turned out huh -_-

After that it was fixed.

I reported that bug to loriel long ago...

Valder · #32 02-08-2002, 10:08 PM

See, even loriel knows about that trainer and Soto was one of the first to use it. And as for bugs admin, you need to hire someone like NOONE, because after weeks or arguing, I finally realize that there is no need for one.

Valder · #33 02-08-2002, 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Birdbird_0
And I said that to Valder Because I was sick of people complaining about it.

What would you rather me do, Hire Brad? pifft.

Regardless, you had NO right to say that to me. You are very high staff and are not allowed to tell me to die no matter how you feel. And hire someone better than soto, maybe Luc, or Corpse.

Kadar · #34 02-08-2002, 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Birdbird_0

In the case with soto and the hats, ShadowKnight was adding a nice feature so if you have the staff tag you can were all the hats, Soto found the bug that enables you to have all the hats withought the staff tag after doing such and such.

Srange Iorny of how that turned out huh -_-

After that it was fixed.

Nah i found that bug and told soto how to do it....

Valder · #35 02-08-2002, 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kadar

Nah i found that bug and told soto how to do it....

See, more proof that Soto exploits bugs, then he MIGHT report them.

View GraalOnline Profile · #36 02-08-2002, 10:22 PM

whats the use if the bug admin cant fix stuff?

Valder · #37 02-08-2002, 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TDK_Admin2
whats the use if the bug admin cant fix stuff?

Do this

KAIMETSU FOR BUGS ADMIN!
He should get FTP to fix any and all bugs that happen to occur.

Kadar · #38 02-08-2002, 10:24 PM

Kaimetsu for BA or Kaimetsu for NPC Admin or something..

Shorty2Dope · #39 02-08-2002, 10:25 PM

That hat thing was done the same way all 'hacking' is done on Graal, WITHOUT a trainer. (NPC Injection) Stefan fixed it in the last Graal update. Now there are new ways to hack I guess.

nyghtGT · #40 02-08-2002, 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kadar
Kaimetsu for BA or Kaimetsu for NPC Admin or something..

i think if he wanted it he would allready have it

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