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[TrueHeaT]

Originally posted by T-Squad


Really? You know how long it will be before pollution takes its toll? I'd have to say, as a estimate, millions of years...if humans didn't exist, polution would still occur, humans only accelerate it about (another estimate) 100 years, at least, and like, I don't know...1000 years. I'm probably way off, but anyway...it will be a while before that effect anything....a LONG while....

your children's children's children's children's children could suffer for the US's pollution mistakes

[ZanderX]

Originally posted by Lugie
Marle:


Life is a lesson, you learn it when you're through.

Damnit, Marle...Unblock me, let me try and explain before you just block me.

[Merlin]

Originally posted by TrueHeaT


dante again makes a point.. i think using the atom bomb on japan was a disgusting thing to do. i think pearl harbour was smart strategically but ruthless

i think america deserved a wake up call but not in the loss of lives.. maybe all its big businesses crumbling would do the trick

and dante also forgot to mention that it was'nt a cowardly terrorist attack it was a planned millitary attack taking revenge for yet another cowardly terrorist attack.

[Teh Wizad]

Originally posted by TrueHeaT


dante again makes a point.. i think using the atom bomb on japan was a disgusting thing to do. i think pearl harbour was smart strategically but ruthless

i think america deserved a wake up call but not in the loss of lives.. maybe all its big businesses crumbling would do the trick

smart strategically? it was a cowardly sneak attack and once again, they deserved what they got

[Lugie]

Originally posted by TrueHeaT


dante again makes a point.. i think using the atom bomb on japan was a disgusting thing to do. i think pearl harbour was smart strategically but ruthless

i think america deserved a wake up call but not in the loss of lives.. maybe all its big businesses crumbling would do the trick

Marle:

uhh, just because he uses big words (and agrees with you), he automatically has a point?

[FatherDante]

Originally posted by Teh Wizad


it's all material **** that our ****ing country supplies us. you don't know how lucky you are to be where you are, in Canada, to me a smaller form of the United States.

Dante reads that we hold down other nations? WHERE CAN I GET THIS NEWSPAPER THAT SAYS THIS? I WOULD LOVE TO SEE WHAT HE'S READING

You can't read that kind of thing in a newspaper. It is an opinion based upon facts gathered over long periods of time.
FACT: US companies employ cheap labour overseas.
FACT: US influences overseas inflation to pump the value of the dollar in spite of the fact that they waste more money than any other country in the world
FACT: The average US citizen makes $10,000 more and produces $10,000 less than the average Japanese citizen

How much do I have to go through?

[TrueHeaT]

Originally posted by Teh Wizad



we cheered because we had revenge for pearl harbor in which a few thousand americans died, we didn't cheer because of deaths of the innocent, also it wasn't a terrorist attack, it was an attack by a country. they deserve what they got.

that's crazy man, you know americans at that time just wanted to "kill the japs"
being it a terrorist attack or an attack from a country doesn't matter, they're all people
you think they deserve what they got? all the people dead and the horrible radiation poisoning too?
I don't think it's unsafe to say the terrorist act yesterday was revenge for soemthing

[Lugie]

Originally posted by ZanderX


Damnit, Marle...Unblock me, let me try and explain before you just block me.

Marle:

Maybe I don't feel like it?

Oh, and you can stop typing in red now. Also, font=times never worked.

[ZanderX]

...whatever. I'm going to go now, I am now longer going to post on these forums or do anything remotely related to Graal. It's utterly pointless. Goodbye.

[Jerom]

Originally posted by TrueHeaT


that's crazy man, you know americans at that time just wanted to "kill the japs"
being it a terrorist attack or an attack from a country doesn't matter, they're all people
you think they deserve what they got? all the people dead and the horrible radiation poisoning too?
I don't think it's unsafe to say the terrorist act yesterday was revenge for soemthing

Kids at my school are now yelling "kill the towlheads!"

[LilNiglet]

Originally posted by Jerom

well we've been guided by our emotions ever since we had them, heh...
Sometimes emotions are for the better, but on the other hand, emotions can get in the way of a better descision...

Say for instance some girl just broke up with a guy, and the guy was mighty pissed off because the girl got a new boyfriend. The ex-boyfriend beats up the new boyfriend. That was a bad descision caused by emotions.

Yeah, exactly!

I don't understand it. People in the Us cheered when Japan was bombed, but unlike the Palestinians, among whom about 200 cheered, 20 million cheered in the Us. and unlike the palestinians, who cheered for the death of about 7,000 people, the US cheered for the death of about 170,000 people.

Because at that time, no civilian other than the scientists of the Manhattan project had ANY idea what kind of destruction, what kind of MONSTER, had been unleashed upon those cities. Now that we have been educated on what these terror weapons can do, in my opinion, if they were used by EITHER side, it would be condemened by the entire world.


Sorry everyone, this has been a VERY intresting thread, but my Dad is in the military as a medical squadron commander, and he is on 6-ring alert, meaning he MUST be able to access the phone within 6 rings at all times... thanks and goodnight.

[Merlin]

i have to go and sleep now :[ bye

[Teh Wizad]

Originally posted by FatherDante

You can't read that kind of thing in a newspaper. It is an opinion based upon facts gathered over long periods of time.
FACT: US companies employ cheap labour overseas.
FACT: US influences overseas inflation to pump the value of the dollar in spite of the fact that they waste more money than any other country in the world
FACT: The average US citizen makes $10,000 more and produces $10,000 less than the average Japanese citizen

How much do I have to go through?

That has nothing to do with us holding down the economies of other nations and nothing to do with what you said about 3rd world countries.

[TrueHeaT]

Originally posted by Jerom

Kids at my school are now yelling "kill the towlheads!"

sick

[FatherDante]

The United States did far worse to Japan than could ever be justified as a retaliatory action. Only the chinese had a right to cheer.

But the US has not only ignored the suffering of the palestinians under the israelis, they have supported it!

[FatherDante]

Originally posted by Teh Wizad


That has nothing to do with us holding down the economies of other nations and nothing to do with what you said about 3rd world countries.

If you don't understand how it does, than my evidence is beyond you.

[Jerom]

Originally posted by TrueHeaT



sick

the thing is, most of em are the farmers who "chew" or whatever you call it, and they are racist against others constantly.

[FatherDante]

Originally posted by Lugie

Oh, and you can stop typing in red now. Also, font=times never worked.

Actually, the font always worked for me...

[Jerom]

Originally posted by FatherDante
If you don't understand how it does, than my evidence is beyond you.

I THINK we established that if you cannot think on the same level of understanding, that you cannot communicate very well.
heh

[BruceLee2000]

if they we didnt employ them overseas working for low wages they wouldnt have anything at all

[T-Squad]

Do NOT even bring pearl harbor and Japan into this.

The President at the time gave legitimate warning, telling them we will launch a atomic bomb if they don't surrender. They didn't listen. We launched the atomic bomb. After that bomb, we asked once again to surrender...they once again didn't listen, and we launched...that one hit hiroshima I think, not sure...

We were about to luanch a 3rd atomic bomb, and we told them we were launching it at Tokyo...they surrendered then.

There was a second option, of course...sending men in to do the same things the missiles did. Only thing is, we would have lost MANY, MANY men....

So we had 2 options...use the most destructive weapon in the world at the time, or send in men. If we sent men in, the world would have lost as many, and MANY more.

Which choice would you choose?

[Teh Wizad]

Originally posted by TrueHeaT


that's crazy man, you know americans at that time just wanted to "kill the japs"
being it a terrorist attack or an attack from a country doesn't matter, they're all people
you think they deserve what they got? all the people dead and the horrible radiation poisoning too?
I don't think it's unsafe to say the terrorist act yesterday was revenge for soemthing

that's crazy man, you know that japanese at the time just wanted to "kill the americans" and did you know that they thought they were going to obliterate us because we didn't have the spirit to beat them? all the people who died at pearl harbor who were in their beds sleeping? was that fair? no

japanese wanted war and they got war. that's what happens during war, people die! we were not in a war when they attacked us. it was a cowardly sneak attack.

[TrueHeaT]

Originally posted by Jerom

the thing is, most of em are the farmers who "chew" or whatever you call it, and they are racist against others constantly.

i respect farmers a lot
there should be more of them
it's so noble, growing food for others. racists i don't like thoguh

[Lugie]

Originally posted by FatherDante
Actually, the font always worked for me...

Marle:

I have Times New Roman, and it appears as Verdana on here.

[Teh Wizad]

Originally posted by BruceLee2000
if they we didnt employ them overseas working for low wages they wouldnt have anything at all

thank you

[TrueHeaT]

Originally posted by T-Squad
Do NOT even bring pearl harbor and Japan into this.

The President at the time gave legitimate warning, telling them we will launch a atomic bomb if they don't surrender. They didn't listen. We launched the atomic bomb. After that bomb, we asked once again to surrender...they once again didn't listen, and we launched...that one hit hiroshima I think, not sure...

We were about to luanch a 3rd atomic bomb, and we told them we were launching it at Tokyo...they surrendered then.

There was a second option, of course...sending men in to do the same things the missiles did. Only thing is, we would have lost MANY, MANY men....

So we had 2 options...use the most destructive weapon in the world at the time, or send in men. If we sent men in, the world would have lost as many, and MANY more.

Which choice would you choose?

the atomic bomb is the most cowardly disgusting action that could be taken
at least sending men would be honorable

pearl harbour didn't kill nearly as many people as hiroshima bombing did

[Valder]

This is getting out of hand now.....so many disputes.....We need to rebuild and take actions against the people that did this, and that's final

[Jerom]

Originally posted by TrueHeaT


i respect farmers a lot
there should be more of them
it's so noble, growing food for others. racists i don't like thoguh

MOST of the farmers in my town are racist though =\
Then there are the other people who are glued to the TV at school and have intelligent conversations with the teachers about this happening in the US.

[TrueHeaT]

Originally posted by Teh Wizad


that's crazy man, you know that japanese at the time just wanted to "kill the americans" and did you know that they thought they were going to obliterate us because we didn't have the spirit to beat them? all the people who died at pearl harbor who were in their beds sleeping? was that fair? no

japanese wanted war and they got war. that's what happens during war, people die! we were not in a war when they attacked us. it was a cowardly sneak attack.

the atomic bomb is eons more cowardly than anything like pearl harbour

[Lugie]

Originally posted by TrueHeaT


the atomic bomb is eons more cowardly than anything like pearl harbour

Marle:


and flying planes filled with civilians into towers filled with civilians isn't?

[Teh Wizad]

Originally posted by TrueHeaT


the atomic bomb is the most cowardly disgusting action that could be taken
at least sending men would be honorable

pearl harbour didn't kill nearly as many people as hiroshima bombing did

WHY ARE WE GOING TO KILL OUR OWN TO GET THE JOB DONE?

I agree fully with Soul Blade on what he just said and that's very strange thing of me to say

[Jerom]

Originally posted by TrueHeaT
pearl harbour didn't kill nearly as many people as hiroshima bombing did

well dang man, it was an ATOMIC BOMB!!!!
Did you know that the Japanese found people who were hiding in the caves of mountains that thought the war was still going on?
When they discovered this at the time, they found out that those people were in those caves for 30 years because they feared they would die because of the atomic bomb...

[Teh Wizad]

Originally posted by TrueHeaT


the atomic bomb is eons more cowardly than anything like pearl harbour

no because they were forewarned of what we would do and obviously they didn't care, twice

[Merlin]

jerom you have no pride, get deported.
i am done with this i need sleep

[Jerom]

Originally posted by Merlin
jerom you have no pride, get deported.
i am done with this i need sleep

er... do not speak for me... that is rude and not needed.

[TrueHeaT]

Originally posted by Lugie




Marle:


and flying planes filled with civilians into towers filled with civilians isn't?

uhh, no i don't think it's more cowardly than an atomic bomb

[T-Squad]

Originally posted by TrueHeaT


the atomic bomb is the most cowardly disgusting action that could be taken
at least sending men would be honorable

pearl harbour didn't kill nearly as many people as hiroshima bombing did

COWARDLY?! WE WEREN'T GETTING INVOLVED IN THE WAR, THEY GOT US INVOLVED ON THEIRCOWARDLY ATTACK ON PEARL HARBOR...

You look at the japanese today, they are a great people, filled with tradition and honor, with kindness...before the atomic bombing, they weren't like that. They were war like, and fill with hatred.

They brought the bombings on themselves...

[RawPower]

Originally posted by TrueHeaT


the atomic bomb is eons more cowardly than anything like pearl harbour

Yes but we haven't used an atomic bomb for no reason. We use it when we had no choice. And wouldn't you rather kill thuosands of the enemy and less-likely have any deaths from your own country??

[Teh Wizad]

hey trueheat
http://sinclair.quarterman.org/sinclair/who/gordon.html

go read the article on the left, it's for you and dante and others who are wrong.

tony found this

[Valder]

I HAVE A LOT OF PRIDE IN MY COUNTRY!

And Pearl Harbor was unexpected unlike the atomic bombs, they didn't send soldiers in, they send Airplanes filled with bombs and started to BOMB pearl Harbor. This is MUCH worse though. I agree with TrueHeat in that they should have found an alternative way to do something to the Japanese people, and at least should have attacked a military instilation like they did.