I want answers

[kia345]

graal has never and will never be in a state where it's fit for release on a somewhat credible platform


also the format in itself sets it apart from all the other shitty greenlight games in a much worse way. a downhill mmo is one thing. a downhill mmo managed by the idiotic playerbase is something else entirely.



also why would you mention a nintendo console and any other console in the same breath but call the other one pleb

[Kamaeru]

nintendo > everyone else at video game making

if you disagree, you are entitled to be wrong

[maximus_asinus]

Originally Posted by Kamaeru

nintendo > everyone else at video game making

if you disagree, you are entitled to be wrong

Nintendo has been milking the same 3 properties for 30 years, and maybe strayed from the same formula a half dozen times. Nothing great about that.

[kia345]

Originally Posted by maximus_asinus

Nintendo has been milking the same 3 properties for 30 years, and maybe strayed from the same formula a half dozen times. Nothing great about that.

and to add to that, it's the same formula over and over and sometimes it still sucks. yeah there are great marios and zeldas but jesus **** there's some poor ones.


anyway it's easy to be successful when you're




casual

so props to botw I guess for not just being a rehash of a link to the past for the 300th time

give me another good metroid and then we'll talk

o also props to splatoon for being a new IP, when was the last time nintendo got behind one of those, pikmin? chibi robo?




play nier

[Kamaeru]

Originally Posted by kia345

play nier

I tried but the PC version is worse and less playable than Super Man 64

It was really laughable coming off of a 25 hour BOTW binge. Bayonetta 2 is better.

The other stuff you said is awful bait, ALTTP is god-tier game design, Wii U palpably has the best games of any current console, and Nintendo hasn't made any of the mistakes you speak of. It's always the situation that if Nintendo doesn't do what you wanted, you complain, but if they do, you also complain. For you, they will never win. For the world on the other hand, all they've done is provide everyone with some of the best entertainment. It really goes to show how much integrity it takes to be Nintendo, or to even be an ardent follower of Nintendo. When competitors get a game on their platform that is great, I usually buy their consoles and praise them for it (MGS on ps1-3 and JSRF on xbox, amazing games on amazing systems). When Nintendo puts a killer app on their platform, one so impressive that there has never been a game like it before even, what happens? You criticize them anyway. In fact you've doubled down on your criticism oddly enough. I'm pretty sure I've figured out who the fanboys are.

[kia345]

Originally Posted by Kamaeru

You criticize them anyway.

also I don't criticize nintendo, I criticize nintendo fans. nintendo's fine, they're the best producers of average content around


anyone who thinks bayo or any other nintendo exclusive plays better than nier is bananas

[Kamaeru]

Originally Posted by kia345

also I don't criticize nintendo, I criticize nintendo fans. nintendo's fine, they're the best producers of average content around


anyone who thinks bayo or any other nintendo exclusive plays better than nier is bananas

I've played both extensively, there is absolutely no comparison. Nier is good but has major problems with the gameplay (very similar quality situation to other recent games by Platinum such as Transformers Devastation), Bayonetta 2 is well known palpably and established in the action game community as the best action game ever made (subjective opinion, sure, but nier isn't getting unanimous praise at all so the contrast is stark here).

Zelda BOTW on the other hand is better than both games.

You're arguing from an emotional, reactionary, knee-jerk position because you personally hate Nintendo and the people who enjoy their games. I do not personally hate Sony, I just disagree with what they do. I think they are dangerous and self-destructive to the video game industry. Can you imagine having this position? Something that isn't entirely condemning the people you disagree with for your own sense of righteousness? I just don't hate them, I'm not stupid enough to fall into this emotional trap with them. Playstation is a good system and their fans are pretty cool too. Just because it's not as good as Nintendo systems, there's not anything wrong with that. I have said nothing even defammatory about the validity of that platform for games, which is why I have pointed it out as a possible target platform.

My main issue with PS4 is that the square button is too close to the pause button/touch pad. I tried playing Mega Man collection and it made me want to kill myself because I would accidentally pause about 30% of the time I was trying to press the shoot button. Playstation isn't wack. Nobody is wack, they just need to work on their stuff a little better before jumping into a nuanced and honest debate about facts and evidence that back up positions about what is demonstrably a better design.

Can't handle when people give you a hard time for your preference of video game? Suck it up, Nintendo fans have been dealing with this for their entire lives. It's not going to stop, it's going to get worse, and eventually Sony will even release a platform that bombs even worse than PS3 and Vita. There are going to be ups and downs, and there are going to be people who are going to make fun of you for preference. It's petty and tribalistic, yeah, but Nintendo fans have had the worst end of this stick for almost 20-30 years. Now Sony fans are butthurt that the tables are turning a bit, and it's beyond hilarious to watch them unable to receive what they have dished out.

If you go around saying "Zelda isn't that amazing of a game!", what is going to happen is that every time a reasonably mannered human being (someone who probably owns a Wii U and a copy of the game) hears you say it you will lose a ton of credibility points. It's a really really really good game.

There, now you can blame me for derailing the thread even though my original post was completely on-topic. Now back to playing Zelda.

[Kamaeru]

Originally Posted by maximus_asinus

Nintendo has been milking the same 3 properties for 30 years, and maybe strayed from the same formula a half dozen times. Nothing great about that.

That would be a legit criticism if it were true, but you made the numbers up. The truth is that almost 100% of the time that an innovative and successful video game product has ever hit the market, it was made by Nintendo.

Prove me wrong. You can't.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Kamaeru

nintendo > everyone else at video game making

if you disagree, you are entitled to be wrong

lul.