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Old 02-15-2015, 10:03 PM
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I still constantly get disconnected when changing levels, it's annoying.
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What gives? I downloaded the latest Graal client a few days ago and wasn't even able to install it without the installer crashing every time in Windows 8.1.
I would like to add that I have been downloading and installing this game since the summer of 1999 and this is the first time I have had such an issue.
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Fix disconnect glitch.
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As much as I like the new changes, it would be better to go back to the version previous to Graalv6.113, or at least we shouldn't be forced to use the newest version. There are times where I can't play for hours [on Zodiac] because of connection issues that never occured before the update.

Though that's been said already, I'd like to bring it up again
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My previous post was in query of support, should I have posted elsewhere? I was hoping someone would come along with a solution to my problem.
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Fix disconnect glitch.
I'm thinking the disconnect glitch has something to do with the timeouts overlapping and causing a disconnect :0

only occured to me when in levels with lots of npcs with different timeouts and randoms

always when the player enters the level or its updated and trying to read all at once
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Has anyone else had problems with the installer not working?
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Still unable to Login to Graal. I am STILL met by a completely black screen.

I get this:


Then this forever:
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I am still waiting on the client disconnect fix
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Old 03-14-2015, 04:43 PM
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I am still waiting on the client disconnect fix
Agreed.
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Just released Graal version 6.113 for Windows

You can download as usual from our web site:
http://www.graalonline.com/playerworlds/downloads/

Major improvements:
- Support for international text / UTF8
- Compatible with the latest versions for iOS, Android and Facebook
- Fixed several bugs


it's been doing this for 6 months since September 18 2014...
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Just got disconnected a single time and F2/Net output this:

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it's been doing this for 6 months since September 18 2014...
For emphasis.
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Old 04-11-2015, 12:23 PM
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Sorry, creating a new forum is far more important than resolving your game breaking bugs.
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Sorry, creating a new forum is far more important than resolving your game breaking bugs.
You mean the new one that was supposed to happen months ago?
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I would also like to see the homepage for graal to be up to date.

it still mentions about a 5 hour trial when they removed that years ago which is causing most of the new players to not bother trying to start graal
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While we're at it we should try and find a more engaged and active administration.
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I would also like to see the homepage for graal to be up to date.

it still mentions about a 5 hour trial when they removed that years ago which is causing most of the new players to not bother trying to start graal
Yeah, I'd like to see more updates on the website as well. I actually made a little mockup of what a new site could look like using Squarespace (out of laziness) and I've got to say that a lot of 'website builder' services out there are kind of getting impressive.

The site just needs to be a little more sleek and 'web 2.0'-ish, and would be fantastic if it were community-centered like it was back in 2002 or so.

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So I see the lack of working GNU/Linux client was briefly mentioned here, but no one replied. Why is this not being handled seriously? What in the hell are you guys doing that makes it hard to put the game on all platforms? I can't imagine there are major differences between the Mac OS and GNU/Linux ports considering they're both unix-like operating systems.

The lack of professionalism going on is not only disgusting, but really hard to believe.
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Out of curiosity, who's actually working on the client these days?
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Out of curiosity, who's actually working on the client these days?
No idea.
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Does Graal work on Windows 11.1 SE?
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Old 06-21-2015, 01:45 PM
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Where the **** is the linux client update, or the new forum everyone was so concerned about getting released?
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Does Graal work on Windows 11.1 SE?
I thought you may have meant window mobile editions, but it never reached 11.1. Same with Win 10 mobile. Do you mean Windows 10 server edition? If so, it does work on that platform. Although you'll most likely be RDPing into it, so your graphics will break and not work unless you're in a very specific environment.

The lack of linux option means we can't run it on raspberry pi which would be amazing.

As for forum updates, you guys may hate VBulletin 5.X if they are going that route. The only thing wrong with this forum is its organization and participation, not the software below it. Although VBulletin 4.X is amazing compared to this version.
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i meant what i said. windows 11.1 CE or die
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The lack of linux option means we can't run it on raspberry pi which would be amazing.
It wouldn't run on a Raspberry Pi regardless because the Graal client was complied for x86 and the Raspberry Pi uses an ARM processor.
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Attention, we have 2 more months left to celebrate our very first year anniversary of our highly appreciated disconnection content!


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Hello.

I'd like to take a moment to address the complaint regarding disconnects on the PC client.

First, I'd like to notify server developers of some specifics. From internal testing, these disconnections appear isolated to entering a new level, whether it be via a warp (ie, level link) or a script (eg, setlevel2). Additionally, they only seem to occur when the player enters the level for the first time (specifically, when their client first loads the level from the server).

What this means is, for the time being, that you can mitigate the damages by minimizing level-changing events or scripts. Good examples of areas to to avoid for now would be some kind of overworld-wide game (such as Tag or a race) or a multi-level, repeatable instance (due to instance levels each being unique and "new," regardless of repetition).

That aside, Unixmad has been brought up to speed on this issue. Though no specifics are available to be shared, I'd like to note that, due to the cause being a fault within the client, any possible solutions for this bug won't be rolled out until the next Graal client update.
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Hello.

I'd like to take a moment to address the complaint regarding disconnects on the PC client.

First, I'd like to notify server developers of some specifics. From internal testing, these disconnections appear isolated to entering a new level, whether it be via a warp (ie, level link) or a script (eg, setlevel2). Additionally, they only seem to occur when the player enters the level for the first time (specifically, when their client first loads the level from the server).

What this means is, for the time being, that you can mitigate the damages by minimizing level-changing events or scripts. Good examples of areas to to avoid for now would be some kind of overworld-wide game (such as Tag or a race) or a multi-level, repeatable instance (due to instance levels each being unique and "new," regardless of repetition).

That aside, Unixmad has been brought up to speed on this issue. Though no specifics are available to be shared, I'd like to note that, due to the cause being a fault within the client, any possible solutions for this bug won't be rolled out until the next Graal client update.
Is the level changed in any way when I update a weapon npc? I also experienced this disconnect bug when hitting the apply button on a script window. Usually at which I log back on and press it again (several times) as well as on all other script windows (several times) just to ensure that it does save the level. Not sure if you have looked into this also or not in connection to the bug?
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That's good to hear, Rob. Thank you for the update. I can vouch for scriptless. The disconnect bug does happen while applying script changes to weapons that result in the weapon being re-added to you via script.
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If receiving Weapon NPC data alone were enough to trigger a disconnect, you would assume players would frequently get disconnected simply for logging onto the server (where they simultaneously receive literally hundreds of WNPC scripts on some servers).

I would be interested if these WNPCs in question were doing something unusual that might have contributed to it... I've made several thousand script updates in the last months, often with two clients online at the same time, and have never experienced that problem.

However, I appreciate this information and have forwarded that tidbit to Unixmad as well. If you can narrow down possible functions or interactions that might be causing it in those WNPC updates, that could potentially make the solution very easy.
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they only seem to occur when the player enters the level for the first time (specifically, when their client first loads the level from the server).
This is not true, it can occur when a level has already been loaded, as well as entered within the same online session.

What I've noticed is that it is more likely to occur when there are higher number of players around, which also cause a higher number of these lines to be logged:

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I wouldn't be surprised if it had something to do with how player attr[] values were being stored and synchronised, as this has been somewhat bugged since the last client.
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Why not just roll back to the previous version?
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There's multiple variables involved here. I've been disconnected for hitting the save button to an npc level editor in game.
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I haven't been disconnected recently for updating a weapon but yes, I've also experienced it entering a level I already had entered in. Usually when logging on GK inside bomber trade and going outside, then going back inside.. But the weird thing is the bug does not occur every time you do it. So there has to be some other variables involved too. But looking for commonalities is definitely a good way to trouble shoot the problem. I would be inclined to suggest looking into the TPlayer, and TServerPlayer objects. It's possible that they are receiving, or sending, a corrupt packet.
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