gun confusion

[bloodykiller]

So, yesterday KSG got nerfed because "it had too many points" so i decided to sell it for relatively cheap. I just logged on today and it went back to its original stats...what's the point of doing **** like this? Unless you like ****ing up players that is.

[pig132]

lol

[bloodykiller]

Btw i forgot to include that I talked to rogue for an hour and he wasn't intentioned to change it back since with the "new stats" it went down to 80points which is "acceptable"

[Crono]

unlucky man, era should respect the economic side of the game by not doing things like that

[Tim_Rocks]

Tk, I warned you about what would happen if the stats were changed. But nooooo, don't listen to me, oh and the stats of random guns will be changed several more times.

[bloodykiller]

you actually didn't warn me of anything xD

[Crow]

Just do it like me, buy and keep stuff for style. I bought Ap7s for style because they look badass when I returned for a short while. They were 2.5k each or something like that then, and suddenly - BOOM - they're awesome!

[Supaman771]

Omg my gun is a little bit less incredibly lame but still has the highest tier and point total on Era I better sell it ASAP.

[papajchris]

I think you guys purposely pick on TK

[Scoper]

I make sure all the houses are geared specifically against him

[BlueMelon]

the point system is flawed big time

[Tim_Rocks]

Originally Posted by bloodykiller

you actually didn't warn me of anything xD

Lol, read the unofficial forums. You started a couple threads about it and I told you all the negative effects of changing the gun stats.

[mewtoo18]

Look at the gun laws on era.. and all the violence.. LETS BAN GUNS!!! Just Kidding !! lol I just couldn't help myself.

[Tim_Rocks]

Originally Posted by mewtoo18

Look at the gun laws on era.. and all the violence.. LETS BAN GUNS!!! Just Kidding !! lol I just couldn't help myself.

Gun violence isn't a laughing matter, we should ban witch craft too..

[Supaman771]

Originally Posted by bloodykiller

KSG

Is now fixed and won't be changing again.

Originally Posted by BlueMelon

the point system is flawed big time

So much this.

[Andre2006]

I don't understand why people get so angry about these things.

I would not even call this "game" a complete product, It's still in development and It's been over a decade now. A whole bunch of ideas being scrapped, old Era being scrapped.

Not to even consider talking about the current business model that Graal has.

You should be glad you don't even have to pay a dime to play on Era, all the new players pays for a monthly subscription.

[Fidel Castro]

Originally Posted by Andre2006

I don't understand why people get so angry about these things.

I would not even call this "game" a complete product, It's still in development and It's been over a decade now. A whole bunch of ideas being scrapped, old Era being scrapped.

Not to even consider talking about the current business model that Graal has.

You should be glad you don't even have to pay a dime to play on Era, all the new players pays for a monthly subscription.

If I didn't have a lifetime Classic account I can assure you that you would not be seeing me on here.

[Andre2006]

Originally Posted by Fidel Castro

If I didn't have a lifetime Classic account I can assure you that you would not be seeing me on here.

Likewise.

[bloodykiller]

Originally Posted by Tim_Rocks

Lol, read the unofficial forums. You started a couple threads about it and I told you all the negative effects of changing the gun stats.

gun stats should've been (and were) changed. after that there should've been a 2-3 day trial period to rebalance stats (that kinda happened), and then no stats at all should be changed.

[bloodykiller]

Originally Posted by Fidel Castro

If I didn't have a lifetime Classic account I can assure you that you would not be seeing me on here.

i guess u must be really poor cuz era is like 1-2 euros a month xD

[Andre2006]

Originally Posted by bloodykiller

gun stats should've been (and were) changed. after that there should've been a 2-3 day trial period to rebalance stats (that kinda happened), and then no stats at all should be changed.

Stats among other things changing is to be expected. If you buy something within Era, you can't expect that specific "thing" will be "yours" for ever. And if It's a gun it's bound to be changed sooner or later.

You just have to suck it up, if you're really scared of buying something because of this then stick with the dual shotguns like I do. (Though I do it because I'm poor within the game, this is all common sense)

Originally Posted by bloodykiller

i guess u must be really poor cuz era is like 1-2 euros a month xD

It's not about the 1-2 euros, at least not for me. I would not want to pay for a game like this considering it's being run, developed by teenagers (for the most part and not to mention they don't even get PAID) and there are oh so many different games out there for the same price that will satisfy oh so much more.

[WillaWonka]

Hey TK, buy my hat 600k. It's guaranteed not to ever be nerfed and only the multi millionaires have it. Except for me. I so poor.

[bloodykiller]

Originally Posted by Andre2006

Stats among other things changing is to be expected. If you buy something within Era, you can't expect that specific "thing" will be "yours" for ever. And if It's a gun it's bound to be changed sooner or later.

You just have to suck it up, if you're really scared of buying something because of this then stick with the dual shotguns like I do. (Though I do it because I'm poor within the game, this is all common sense)



It's not about the 1-2 euros, at least not for me. I would not want to pay for a game like this considering it's being run, developed by teenagers (for the most part and not to mention they don't even get PAID) and there are oh so many different games out there for the same price that will satisfy oh so much more.

a small adjustment is ok, but changing freeze from .1 to .15 is a huge jump

@willa, staff would just add it to the hat shop for 20k the next day

[WillaWonka]

Originally Posted by bloodykiller

@willa, staff would just add it to the hat shop for 20k the next day

Only for you...

In fact, you should probably not touch anything anymore, your the idol for bad luck.

[Tim_Rocks]

Originally Posted by bloodykiller

a small adjustment is ok, but changing freeze from .1 to .15 is a huge jump

You can only change it in increments of .05... If I do .13, it's really just .15, if I do .11, it's still .1.

[Fidel Castro]

Originally Posted by bloodykiller

i guess u must be really poor cuz era is like 1-2 euros a month xD

Nothing on this game is worth paying a dollar for at its present state.

[mewtoo18]

Originally Posted by Fidel Castro

Nothing on this game is worth paying a dollar for at its present state.

That is an opinion. $5 a month, is a bit high.. but $12 a year, thats completely reasonable for the content you get. I don't play zodiac.. but if I had to pick the 2 most single well designed servers.. it would probably be Era, and Classic.. followed by Zodiac. And I only say that becasue Era has no competition anymore in gun servers (zone is dead).. and Zodiac just seems a bit too deep into RPG, yet lacks some of the key elements.. I logged on zodiac today.. died once trying to find anyway whatsoever to figure out where to begin questing.. with no luck.. so i ran to a non-combat zone and asked somenoe.. they confirmed the server had questing.. ive yet to see it.. at least Classic points you twards it.

[bloodykiller]

Originally Posted by Tim_Rocks

You can only change it in increments of .05... If I do .13, it's really just .15, if I do .11, it's still .1.

duh, but what i mean is that it's a big difference in the strength of a gun. take the mp5 navy, it would become one of the best guns on the game if its freeze was decreased by .05..but as of now it can not compete with the best guns

[WillaWonka]

I mean, i read someone say something about these gun changes to be able to compete within a broader range. But as far as i can see... my PPSH can not compete with a KSG or M107... or any other gun for that matter.

[Tim_Rocks]

so we want the gun stats back to the way they were while I was manager?

[shrimps]

Just remove guns, and make everything pointed stocks and bows/arrows.

[Scoper]

Originally Posted by shrimps

Just remove guns, and make everything pointed stocks and bows/arrows.

how does one fight with a pointed stock

[shrimps]

STICK! It's supposed to be STICK!

[Fidel Castro]

Originally Posted by shrimps

Just remove guns, and make everything pointed stocks and bows/arrows.

That's what classic is for

[shrimps]

Well, people are always whining, so I'm just throwing suggestions on how to make Era more to players liking.

[Andre2006]

I should hook you all up with the dual shotguns.

[shrimps]

I want a gun that shoots healing bullets please.

[Crow]

Originally Posted by shrimps

I want a gun that shoots healing bullets please.

The Smugun still exists.

[shrimps]

Okay, then I want a gun that shoots healing bullets to be released for public use.

[bloodykiller]

Originally Posted by WillaWonka

I mean, i read someone say something about these gun changes to be able to compete within a broader range. But as far as i can see... my PPSH can not compete with a KSG or M107... or any other gun for that matter.

sg17> ksg
and hk416 is even better if you're not playing on a laptop or you're using some kind of "pro" keyboard