Now Hiring for Esteria...

[Elk]

Originally Posted by DARKVILLIN

I'll send you one

I wish... 1 Grip pen costs 130$ though

[Demisis_P2P]

Originally Posted by Elk

130$

Ask Sinkler to look between the cushions of his couch.

[Elk]

Cool altair outfit!

[PrinceOfKenshin]

Originally Posted by Elk

There wont be huge swords, I'm overwhelmed by the huge amount of work that is required to do, including the planning beforehand.

Also, I lost my Wacom Pen, so it might take some time till I can pick this project up again.

Use a mouse 0.0

[Pelikano]

Originally Posted by PrinceOfKenshin

Use a mouse 0.0

A MOUSE???!!!! graal PC has around 1000 active players, the peak of the most successful server is around 100 fascinating players and you want him to use a MOUSE??!!

[Crow]

Originally Posted by Pelikano

A MOUSE???!!!! graal PC has around 1000 active players, the peak of the most successful server is around 100 fascinating players and you want him to use a MOUSE??!!

That doesn't even make sense Also, using a mouse is not exactly an uncommon thing when it comes to pixel art. Still, since it's Elk's tool of choice (I guess), working without it is probably not as easy.

[Pelikano]

Originally Posted by Crow

That doesn't even make sense Also, using a mouse is not exactly an uncommon thing when it comes to pixel art. Still, since it's Elk's tool of choice (I guess), working without it is probably not as easy.

trolling doesn't always have to make sense

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Pelikano

trolling doesn't always have to make sense

That's not trolling.

[DARKVILLIN]

This is true..and Crono way to NOT respond in game >:|

[NicoX]

Please dont spam this Thread.

Still looking for one more Graphic Artist.
Thanks.

[NicoX]

Hello everybody,

Project Esteria is closed on Graal.

We are going to use an indepentend Engine to realize our Project.
For more informations you can contact me via Forum PM or e-Mail.

Thank you for the great Time.

[Elk]

Oh really, are we?

[Demisis_P2P]

This is interesting.

Graal doesn't have any incentives, and neither the playerbase or the support to make server development worthwhile. So an independent release makes a lot of sense if you can find another engine that is as easy to use.

Check out irrlicht for a good, free, open source graphical engine. You'll still need a game engine to use as a base though.

[NicoX]

We have a Game Engine already.

[Cubical]

Pm link please

[Fulg0reSama]

I suppose this means this thread is completely pointless now.

[papajchris]

Originally Posted by Fulg0reSama

I suppose this means this thread is completely pointless now.

That's what my mom said about me after her divorce

[Elk]

omg o.O...

[Galdor]

What game engine will you use? :O

[NicoX]

Originally Posted by Galdor

What game engine will you use? :O

Downsider's MMO Engine.

[callimuc]

Originally Posted by NicoX

Downsider's MMO Engine.

Where can it be found?

[Emera]

It's an amazing project <3

[Clockwork]

fyi, the images you uploaded to graal are for all intents and purposes graals now, no?

starting from scratch on another engine are we?

[Elk]

Originally Posted by Clockwork

fyi, the images you uploaded to graal are for all intents and purposes graals now, no?

starting from scratch on another engine are we?

Not mine

[Fulg0reSama]

Originally Posted by Elk

Not mine

dat copyright

[Emera]

Don't mean to rattle your project or anything. From what I've already seen you and your team are doing a fantastic job, but there's obviously a small issue with using GraalOnlines content. You can become familiar with the rules here. (Look at line eight of the "Files and Content" paragraph)

If you're going to start developing this offline away from Graal, then you'll really have to go from scratch, and that's something you're not doing. Just pointing that out because if it gets to a stage were it's playable and ready for you to do whatever with, you will most likely run into this.

[papajchris]

It's not like Graal can afford to sue them. But yeah your right. It could be an issue. But I wouldn't really worry about it

[NicoX]

We are not really worrying about it.
Graal is a great Platform. But its sad that Stefan and co is not supporting Servers with great potential. They all care about Iphone now. I stopped the Project on Graal because of this lack of support. And because of some other things..

[Hezzy002]

They aren't using any assets from Graal. Stefan's already stated on the forums that any content uploaded to non-listed servers is free to go anywhere it wants. It was mainly to make sure that a server like Era, which is already on Classic and has exposure, couldn't branch off on it's own whenever it felt like.

I'd also like to point out that should the original artist have not uploaded their own graphics/agreed to that license, and this is true in Elk's case, that the artist's graphics obviously still belong to him.

[Elk]

I'd also like to point out that you can step back from this agreement when referring to deficiency (poor service) @ GraalOnline theres a lot you can do.

[xXziroXx]

Originally Posted by Hezzy002

I'd also like to point out that should the original artist have not uploaded their own graphics/agreed to that license, and this is true in Elk's case, that the artist's graphics obviously still belong to him.

Hate to burst your bubble, but you automatically agree too it upon making your account.

[Elk]

Originally Posted by xXziroXx

Hate to burst your bubble, but you automatically agree too it upon making your account.

A Graal Staff created it for me :P...

[Fulg0reSama]

Originally Posted by Elk

A Graal Staff created it for me :P...

Sorry, considering I'm not very legally savvy, but how does this make a difference?

[xXziroXx]

Originally Posted by Elk

A Graal Staff created it for me :P...

You are still responsible for the account.

[Fulg0reSama]

Originally Posted by xXziroXx

You are still responsible for the account.

I suppose at the worst, if what Elk said is true, then he can't be legally accounted for considering he isn't the one who agreed to the terms of service, but yet whoever created the account would be.

[fowlplay4]

when im lonely i also like to open the graal user agreements and tug away.

[fowlplay4]

whoooooosh

[Hezzy002]

Originally Posted by xXziroXx

Hate to burst your bubble, but you automatically agree too it upon making your account.

The main thing about that post was the fact that Elk never uploaded the graphics himself to Graal in the first place. He just sent the art to others to use and worked on them in his spare time. He still has rights to them. I can't just steal Dusty's art by uploading it to my game after he sends it to me because of a clause in my agreement, I can only steal it if Dusty agrees to and uploads it himself.

[oo_jazz_oo]

Originally Posted by fowlplay4

whoooooosh

I heard this sound from miles away...why don't we have a facepalm smiley!? This is an outrage.

[smirt362]

Is that part of the agreement actually legally binding? It seems rather sketchy.