Zone....

[iPaul]

Why isin't there allot of players?

Man i love zone allot i want more people to play!!!!
i logged on yesterday or two days ago and there was two people on it and it was so much FUN! We sparred and stuff chatted it was awesome

but now their gone and havent seen them for awhile so i went to my normal playing of graal on era and then zodiac


zone needs more people

[Programmer]

Originally Posted by iPaul

Why isin't there allot of players?

Gelat shop, trial limitations, lack of support by Stefan, etc.

[anubis_wing]

You woulda loved the server when there was 70-100 people on daily.

[ReptarKingOfTheOZone]

Originally Posted by anubis_wing

You woulda loved the server when there was 70-100 people on daily.

nice to see you.

i still got your reapers haha

[ShadowFist]

I still pop on zone whenever i see one or two people on Paul zone was an amazing server still has potential

[Feonix]

Amazing indeed. Although I only started seriously playing it when the playercount was averaging ~50. Still better than 0 though...

[Unkownsoldier]

It needs to be marketed, well the whole game does. Currently, there are no new players joining due to the stated reasons above and due to the fact that no one really knows what this game is. Although a lot of games don't do advertising, it might actually help build somewhat of a player base.

[fowlplay4]

Originally Posted by Unkownsoldier

It needs to be marketed, well the whole game does. Currently, there are no new players joining due to the stated reasons above and due to the fact that no one really knows what this game is. Although a lot of games don't do advertising, it might actually help build somewhat of a player base.

Marketing doesn't fix game flaws, if anything it magnifies them because you're exposing them to a larger audience. (PC Zone is full of them)

If you make a good game and people like it, people will refer it to the friends free of charge.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Unkownsoldier

It needs to be marketed, well the whole game does. Currently, there are no new players joining due to the stated reasons above and due to the fact that no one really knows what this game is. Although a lot of games don't do advertising, it might actually help build somewhat of a player base.

no

[ReptarKingOfTheOZone]

if zone did get a boom in new players then people like me, chris, mike biggy ect would proberly make them all quit within a day. people tend to log off after they have been destroyed.

[Beowolf]

Lucky me, have a futur to think about. But i still can own each one of you

[Knightmare1]

Originally Posted by Beowolf

Lucky me, have a futur to think about. But i still can own each one of you

Good luck with your futur.

[Feonix]

9 people is the highest PC I've seen online in month's. But I have to idle in dropship and let them play, because Steve says I make people ragequit.

[Knightmare1]

Originally Posted by Feonix

9 people is the highest PC I've seen online in month's. But I have to idle in dropship and let them play, because Steve says I make people ragequit.

Only because they are mad that a nub like you is beating them.. Kiddin'... or am I?

[Stephen]

What caused Zone to die? I understand it was quite popular at one time but why did people leave so quickly?

[Emera]

Originally Posted by Stephen

What caused Zone to die? I understand it was quite popular at one time but why did people leave so quickly?

Perhaps because their manager was a notorious hacker? I'm talking about PowerProNL.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Stephen

What caused Zone to die? I understand it was quite popular at one time but why did people leave so quickly?

graal v5

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by Crono

graal v5

Elaborate?

[Feonix]

Originally Posted by Knightmare1

Only because they are mad that a nub like you is beating them.. Kiddin'... or am I?

always hatin' bro

Originally Posted by Emera

Perhaps because their manager was a notorious hacker? I'm talking about PowerProNL.

That would make 2, as I remember CM hacking when he was a little noob.

[Knightmare1]

Originally Posted by Stephen

Elaborate?

When v5 came out, with the trial restrictions and observer mode all the trials started leaving. Zone was 75% trials. The people with gold had less people to kill, so they started leaving. Ta-dah!

[Programmer]

Originally Posted by Knightmare1

When v5 came out, with the trial restrictions and observer mode all the trials started leaving. Zone was 75% trials. The people with gold had less people to kill, so they started leaving. Ta-dah!

This is one of the many reasons that Zone died:

• Lack of reasonable updates
• Cash shop
• Unfair trial restrictions
• Less trials for subscribers to kill
• Incompetent managers
• and ultimately, a certain greedy Stefan.

[anubis_wing]

Too many guns, not enough ponies. Led to the untimely and certain decimation of Zone.

[papajchris]

Originally Posted by anubis_wing

Too many guns, not enough ponies. Led to the untimely and certain decimation of Zone.

Damn pony stealers.

[496815]

Originally Posted by Stephen

What caused Zone to die? I understand it was quite popular at one time but why did people leave so quickly?

Well, ya know having SN put you in charge wasn't much help. What really screwed us was you putting PowerProNL in charge so thank you for ruining Zone just a bit more.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by 496815

Well, ya know having SN put you in charge wasn't much help. What really screwed us was you putting PowerProNL in charge so thank you for ruining Zone just a bit more.

Zone PC was a lost cause long before I got my hands on it. Sadly, there aren't enough skilled developers - Zone has potential.

[Nasgoroth]

Originally Posted by Stephen

Zone PC was a lost cause long before I got my hands on it. There aren't enough skilled developers.

Or competent players

[496815]

Originally Posted by Stephen

Zone PC was a lost cause long before I got my hands on it. Sadly, there aren't enough skilled developers - Zone has potential.

Yes you're right, putting him in charge was definitely not even remotely a good decision. You should have just sat on it instead of giving it to a *****.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Programmer

This is one of the many reasons that Zone died:

• Lack of reasonable updates
• Cash shop
• Unfair trial restrictions
• Less trials for subscribers to kill
• Incompetent managers
• and ultimately, a certain greedy Stefan.

To be honest, the cash shop was implemented after Zone had already died. It was during Contiga's mini-revival (if you could call it that) that we got that, and by then a lot of people had left. Anyone with half a brain probably left asap (not so many, being Zone and all) because of the imbalance it created, but it wasn't the cause of death.

Tougher restrictions on trials, change of P2P model(remember that back then, before v5, the subscription system was different), no incentive to actually pay for Zone, and lack of attention towards the development of the server led to its demise. Zone isn't coming back, not on normal Graal anyway.

[Admins]

To be honest the player count of Zone was fine with v5 and gelat shop, but it was just not made for keeping people stay on the server, it's more event-driven than most other Graal servers. The soon-to-be-released iPhone version will have more persistent and non-pvp content.

[Crow]

Originally Posted by Stefan

To be honest the player count of Zone was fine with v5 and gelat shop

Not really, no. Also, you wanted to add non-PvP content to PC Zone a long time ago, yet that never happened. Could've saved it though.

[ReptarKingOfTheOZone]

Originally Posted by Stefan

To be honest the player count of Zone was fine with v5 and gelat shop, but it was just not made for keeping people stay on the server, it's more event-driven than most other Graal servers. The soon-to-be-released iPhone version will have more persistent and non-pvp content.

funny, zone was more popular when there was barely any events.

I think its just that people still tried to play zone despite how F'd up it was getting, and now everyones stopped because it aint worth it.

I have no faith in Izone, it will proberly just crash and burn. GL anyway.

[Tainted_Love]

Originally Posted by Stefan

To be honest the player count of Zone was fine

Ya like you'd know lol. Zone started its downward spiral into the toilet before V4 :P.

[Emera]

Originally Posted by Tainted_Love

Ya like you'd know lol. Zone started its downward spiral into the toilet before V4 :P.

Considering he thought the damn place up I think he'd know quite a bit about it. Obviously the playercount isn't what is used to be.

[Tainted_Love]

Originally Posted by Emera

Considering he thought the damn place up I think he'd know quite a bit about it. Obviously the playercount isn't what is used to be.

Sure hes a remarkable scripter and did a great job making Zone. But he obviously has no idea where his biggest mistakes were made with Zone if he thinks the playercount was fine in V5 lol. I've played Zone more then most people around, I know how much attention Stefan gave to Zone..
Like I said, the gameplay started going downhill before V4.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by Emera

Considering he thought the damn place up I think he'd know quite a bit about it. Obviously the playercount isn't what is used to be.

I'm pretty sure that was BlooKat and Jagen...

[Galdor]

Originally Posted by Stephen

I'm pretty sure that was BlooKat and Jagen...

And Angel or w/e

[Admins]

Originally Posted by ReptarKingOfTheOZone

I have no faith in Izone, it will proberly just crash and burn. GL anyway.

Just like Classic and Era?

[anubis_wing]

Originally Posted by Stefan

Just like Classic and Era?

EXACTLY like them. If history has shown us anything it's that what random individuals predict is always true no matter what has happened before. Geez, you should know that, pfft.

[ffcmike]

Originally Posted by anubis_wing

EXACTLY like them. If history has shown us anything it's that what random individuals predict is always true no matter what has happened before. Geez, you should know that, pfft.

In 2001 people used to post about how Classic (proper) and Graal2001 would be dead eventually. Obviously it's a lot more complicated than that, but it does conflict with the argument that it's entirely wrong to predict a demise in future using what was said 10 years ago as an example.

[anubis_wing]

Originally Posted by ffcmike

In 2001 people used to post about how Classic (proper) and Graal2001 would be dead eventually. Obviously it's a lot more complicated than that, but it does conflict with the argument that it's entirely wrong to predict a demise in future using what was said 10 years ago as an example.

Apparently, my "geez" and "pfft" didn't appropriately denote the lack of seriousness in my post.