Playerworlds vs Xtremeworlds?

[callimuc]

Originally Posted by Unkownsoldier

any content that you manufacture and upload is no longer yours

never heard of that

[oo_jazz_oo]

Originally Posted by callimuc

never heard of that

If you read the terms and conditions and all that, it belongs to Stefan and Unixmad.

This is how they get away with uploading content from all servers to the iPhone and Facebook servers. Its on Graal, they own it. Simple as that.

As for OP: Graal is a game, but it is also a development platform. You are developing a server for this game, using the tools provided.
So, if you plan on making an independent MMO, Graal would not be the platform for you.
Since with Graal, you must go through their client, then connect to your server.

[Televangelist]

Originally Posted by oo_jazz_oo

If you read the terms and conditions and all that, it belongs to Stefan and Unixmad.

This is how they get away with uploading content from all servers to the iPhone and Facebook servers. Its on Graal, they own it. Simple as that.

As for OP: Graal is a game, but it is also a development platform. You are developing a server for this game, using the tools provided.
So, if you plan on making an independent MMO, Graal would not be the platform for you.
Since with Graal, you must go through their client, then connect to your server.

I've read the terms and conditions, and I'm actually... counting on that, almost?

(Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think there's ever been a case of Stefan and Unixmad stepping in and taking control of a server away from someone who was actively maintaining it, right?)

I have my own career. I'm financially solvent. The design I'm aiming for isn't particularly well-suited to making money. If I were working totally independently, figuring out all the 'hows' of integrating a payment system and an account management system would be massive pains-in-the-ass that would distract me from doing design work.

If I come up with something good, then Stefan and Unixmad have an incentive to get it onto iPhone and Facebook, get people seeing my work... and those additional eyeballs would be significantly more valuable to me than being able to somehow process my own subscription fees (and suffer through the hassles of figuring out my own hosting).

[Clockwork]

Originally Posted by Televangelist

I've read the terms and conditions, and I'm actually... counting on that, almost?

(Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think there's ever been a case of Stefan and Unixmad stepping in and taking control of a server away from someone who was actively maintaining it, right?)

I have my own career. I'm financially solvent. The design I'm aiming for isn't particularly well-suited to making money. If I were working totally independently, figuring out all the 'hows' of integrating a payment system and an account management system would be massive pains-in-the-ass that would distract me from doing design work.

If I come up with something good, then Stefan and Unixmad have an incentive to get it onto iPhone and Facebook, get people seeing my work... and those additional eyeballs would be significantly more valuable to me than being able to somehow process my own subscription fees (and suffer through the hassles of figuring out my own hosting).

Thank god someone else thinks this way. <3

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by Televangelist

(Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think there's ever been a case of Stefan and Unixmad stepping in and taking control of a server away from someone who was actively maintaining it, right?)

It's happened quite often. Once your server is Classic, it's no longer yours, although nobody will take it from you unless you stop working on it or break the playerworld rules too often.

[Clockwork]

Originally Posted by cbk1994

It's happened quite often. Once your server is Classic, it's no longer yours, although nobody will take it from you unless you stop working on it or break the playerworld rules too often.

What chris means to say is that if you get a server to classic status and it becomes popular, you must continue to keep it updated occasionally, or at least make sure it doesn't die. Or else, PWA or the likes of stefan and unixmad may reserve the right to replace you with someone more willing to keep the server in good shape.

[Televangelist]

Originally Posted by Clockwork

What chris means to say is that if you get a server to classic status and it becomes popular, you must continue to keep it updated occasionally, or at least make sure it doesn't die. Or else, PWA or the likes of stefan and unixmad may reserve the right to replace you with someone more willing to keep the server in good shape.

Gotcha. Has anyone ever declined the option of letting their server become 'classic'?

And has anyone been replaced simply because Stefan didn't like their design choices, rather than because they totally disappeared?

[fowlplay4]

Originally Posted by Televangelist

Gotcha. Has anyone ever declined the option of letting their server become 'classic'?

And has anyone been replaced simply because Stefan didn't like their design choices, rather than because they totally disappeared?

No, you'd have to be insane to decline 'classic' status.

Classic status == no more server payments.

Stefan isn't all that involved at the playerworld level, unless you like to crash your server.

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by Televangelist

And has anyone been replaced simply because Stefan didn't like their design choices, rather than because they totally disappeared?

The PWA has removed managers because of the direction they wanted to take the server, yes. You really won't need to worry about it though, as long as you keep doing your job if your server becomes classic.

[Clockwork]

Originally Posted by Televangelist

Gotcha. Has anyone ever declined the option of letting their server become 'classic'?

And has anyone been replaced simply because Stefan didn't like their design choices, rather than because they totally disappeared?

It's your choice, when and if, you apply to become hosted (going hosted means you're 'uc' playerworld is basically done and entering beta to work out the bugs and get seen by more player) and when you think you're done with hosted you continue on to apply for classic status. Not sure if you can apply for gold, but I wouldn't recommend it anyways, seeing as that would limit the number of players that could play.

Don't believe anyone has ever been removed for anything other than being abusive or extremely unactive. And that's on classic servers only. You really shouldn't worry about your playerworld being messed with by anyone, including the pwa and stefan lol. You'll likely never even see them unless you request too.