Graal Free To Play on Facebook and Android

[MattKan]

Originally Posted by Stefan

(only transfers the character slot pack).

Ohhhh, my mistake :P Thanks

[Ares]

i enjoy getting lag spikes from players entering the spar room causing me to re-download their heads,bodies, etc. nice job stef

[LordSquirt]

where are the statues of the winners of the guild tournament located

[Dr_Doctor]

Originally Posted by Ares

i enjoy getting lag spikes from players entering the spar room causing me to re-download their heads,bodies, etc. nice job stef

When i log on im laggy for a while cause of this. So much fun.

[Venom_Fish]

Problem:
- Every time I press tab or the chat key, I reverts from full screen.

Suggestion:
- Can we be allowed to change controls?
- Also, can we be allowed to change resolution for full screen?

[Crow]

Originally Posted by Venom_Fish

Problem:
- Every time I press tab or the chat key, I reverts from full screen.

Stefan has already stated that this is due to a limitation in Flash or something.

[Admins]

Originally Posted by Venom_Fish

Problem:
- Every time I press tab or the chat key, I reverts from full screen.

Suggestion:
- Can we be allowed to change controls?
- Also, can we be allowed to change resolution for full screen?

It switches to browser mode because you can only type letters in browser mode (Flash only allows arrow keys, space, tab and escape in fullscreen).

Change controls: you mean using different keys for ASD and similar?

For fullscreen it is using the same resolution as in browser mode but stretches it to the full screen size. We plan to change that to use the correct aspect ratio of the screen. Using the full resolution of the screen (e.g. 1920x1200) for Graal would be too slow though, we will have to wait for that until Flash11.

[LordSquirt]

Is it possible so that when you press up and the tab key is open it shows the last message you typed in chat like it is for graal client

[DustyPorViva]

Why was the shield moved to the other hand? It's such a stupid change, yet from what I can gather way more work went into it than it should have(as far as I can tell, you have scripted exceptions to fix older shields that weren't rendering right), and it's still somewhat broken(sword setbackto sets back to old idle, probably can't change this since it will break hit detection. Also, sword is still swung with the character's left hand[Link was left handed, hur hur] so the player swings his sword with the same hand as he's holding his shield, which magically warps to the other side).

Waste of time... why!?

[ffcmike]

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

Why was the shield moved to the other hand? It's such a stupid change, yet from what I can gather way more work went into it than it should have, and it's still somewhat broken.

Waste of time... why!?

Because they don't want people saying Graal Classic is a Zelda Clone.

Even though Graal Classic is supposed to be a Zelda Clone.

[DustyPorViva]

Originally Posted by ffcmike

Because they don't want people saying Graal Classic is a Zelda Clone.

Even though Graal Classic is supposed to be a Zelda Clone.

Stupidest thing I have ever heard. "Move the shield to the other side, they'll never suspect a thing!"

[oo_jazz_oo]

How does it tell the difference between old shields, and new (left handed) shields...
Because, it would be almost impossible to tell the difference, unless specific shields were actually coded in...which would take forever!

Stefan: I am expecting an answer. :]

[Rufus]

Old shields don't work with the change unless they're in the basic shield position. Everything else needs to be adjusted as far as I know.

[DustyPorViva]

Originally Posted by Rufus

Old shields don't work with the change unless they're in the basic shield position. Everything else needs to be adjusted as far as I know.

One shield I tried that Jazz showed me(jade-kensaki-shield.gif) reverts to the default idle(idle.gani) instead of the new one, to fix that problem. This is giving me the impression they have a list of exceptions to 'fix' the old shields that aren't rendering right.

[fowlplay4]

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

One shield I tried that Jazz showed me(jade-kensaki-shield.gif) reverts to the default idle(idle.gani) instead of the new one, to fix that problem. This is giving me the impression they have a list of exceptions to 'fix' the old shields that aren't rendering right.

Your impression is right.

[Venom_Fish]

Originally Posted by Stefan

It switches to browser mode because you can only type letters in browser mode (Flash only allows arrow keys, space, tab and escape in fullscreen).

Change controls: you mean using different keys for ASD and similar?

For fullscreen it is using the same resolution as in browser mode but stretches it to the full screen size. We plan to change that to use the correct aspect ratio of the screen. Using the full resolution of the screen (e.g. 1920x1200) for Graal would be too slow though, we will have to wait for that until Flash11.

More importantly, being able to change controls.
I use numpad on PC Graal and am unable to here because I cannot change the down key to 5.
Also, it'd probably be better overall if we could alter the ASD controls as well.

Lastly, when can we expect Era Facebook (More important) and Graal Android?

[Galdor]

I think its also the reason they use the ugly and unfinished looking graal new world cliff tiles for the iphone, so it wont look like zelda :P
donno what they use for facebook tho

[Admins]

Originally Posted by Venom_Fish

More importantly, being able to change controls.
I use numpad on PC Graal and am unable to here because I cannot change the down key to 5.
Also, it'd probably be better overall if we could alter the ASD controls as well.

Lastly, when can we expect Era Facebook (More important) and Graal Android?

We will work on that starting end of August. The Android version doesn't have a lot of work left, Era Facebook is mainly setup work (different server structure) and making keyboard controls for things like skateboards.

[MysticX2X]

So who do I contact about connecting my facebook account to the VIP, because I pmed Xor about it with no response.

[callimuc]

Originally Posted by MysticX2X

So who do I contact about connection my facebook account to the VIP

You mean like a "transfer"?

[MysticX2X]

Yeah, I meant that. Sorry for the typo . All my gralats are on the facebook account and I don't have them on VIP.

[Bell]

Originally Posted by MysticX2X

So who do I contact about connecting my facebook account to the VIP, because I pmed Xor about it with no response.

Send your email with what you need done to [email protected]

[Bubble13]

Originally Posted by Bell

Send your email with what you need done to [email protected]

And expect to wait a month or longer.

[Admins]

Originally Posted by MysticX2X

Yeah, I meant that. Sorry for the typo . All my gralats are on the facebook account and I don't have them on VIP.

Connect to the Classic Facebook server, then go into the VIP menu and type your email address. It will ask if you would like to do a transfer then.

[MysticX2X]

Hooray it works. Thanks!

[iBreez]

Originally Posted by Bubble13

And expect to wait a month or longer.

I had to wait 2 months for my ipod pc: account to be transfered to my new one.
Then it was missing all it's items such as lavapet and other things because xor was pissed that i flooded the [email protected] inbox by accident (dont ask), but good ol' stefan fixed it for me.

[dennis20014]

Finally news bout android version! Then I can be rid of my Ipod lol!
On a side note, wondering if anyone else has issues with sound, or are the staff aware of this, on facebook graal. All works well just you can't hear foot steps.

I don't know if it's deliberate or not but just not the full graal experience not hearing myself walk around rofl

[Admins]

It plays tons of foot steps all the time when there are a lot of players on the screen, we have disabled them to speed up the Facebook version.

[dennis20014]

Ah makes sense, I assumed that is what happened. Thanks for the quick response!

[Rufus]

There is a bug on Internet Explorer where for some reason you get extreme speed-hacking speeds.

[LordSquirt]

who uses internet explorer still

[fowlplay4]

GST Spars on Classic iPhone (iOS Users Only) and Facebook this Saturday 6PM EST!

[callimuc]

When can we register?

[fowlplay4]

Originally Posted by callimuc

When can we register?

Now, registration is in the Graal City Battle Arena on their respective servers.

[callimuc]

Oh ok didn´t check by

[JesusFreak250]

aw

[Sonniku4]

Haven't found the time to read all (several) pages of this thread, but here's the way I see it. I might answer some people's questions or simply restate what someone else has said.

Simply put, the people that run the show on Graal have a different way of approaching things. I noticed this with their progression from Classic to Bomy to GK to Graal 3D to Graal Mobile/Internet. There might be some stuff I missed out on or a mistake in chronology, but whatever. Every time they take on a new project, they abandon the previous one. Once again, observe where GK, Classic, Bomy Moon and Graal 3D are at right now.

From my point of view, I see that they only seek to nurture and take care of whatever makes them the most profit. Graal PC stopped earning them money with the lifetime accounts, so they stopped giving those out and started charging monthly (or whatever system we have today). The profits still weren't enough, so they took a poke at mobile gaming. One of the high up people that run Graal has told me directly... Mobile gaming is the future. PCs will become obsolete.

So taking this into account, I am predicting that Graal PC will slowly fade out of existence and Graal Mobile/Facebook/Twitter/whatever they plan will be competing with Farmville and all of the other mobile games out there.

Why should they care about their first fans playerbase and contributors, especially those cheapskate Lifetime Classic players? There is simply no money to be made.

[Tricxta]

Originally Posted by Sonniku4

So taking this into account, I am predicting that Graal PC will slowly fade out of existence and Graal Mobile/Facebook/Twitter/whatever they plan will be competing with Farmville and all of the other mobile games out there.

Graal will not be able to compete with farmville unless alot of things change, even when era makes its appearance on facebook there still wont be much competition. Farmville offers alot more for free without hindering gameplay. While facebook graal does this as well the fact that they want your money is made alot more obvious indicated by the steep prices and hours of griding required to obtain instead of using irl money.

If graal wants to have a chance at competing a more subtle way of convincing people to pay will be required.

Example:farmville gives you some free tractor fuel, "oh dear you don't have enough to plow your whole farm, would you like to buy some more". The decision isnt mandatory but it makes life easier without giving that person an upper hand advantage over others as they can plow fields the lengthy way. If facebook graal works this way and improves the variety of gameplay then yes! it would be in competition, but as for now I think not.

If you think the situation isn't what I have explained I would be interested to hear your opinions

[Sonniku4]

Originally Posted by Tricxta

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If you think the situation isn't what I have explained I would be interested to hear your opinions

Well I said competing, not stating any outcome whatsoever.

The whole idea of free to play with optional perks you pay for is a pretty great idea, if implemented right. Games like TF2 and Farmville appear to have it right, let's see what Graal Mobile does in order to actually reach those levels. Every point you brought up is good.

[MattKan]

Originally Posted by Sonniku4

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Yep!

Originally Posted by Sonniku4

...One of the high up people that run Graal has told me directly... Mobile gaming is the future. PCs will become obsolete.

That is entirely untrue. Though mobile gaming has certainly picked up, PC games are simply more involved and more fun. I honestly don't want to see a day where all my favorite PC games are shrunk to the screen of the iPhone, (etc.) and if Graal Administration thinks that PC games our dying out, well, I disagree. PC Graal is "dying out" per say, (of course Graal will never truly die out at this rate, but you get the idea) but that is because no more effort is being put into it by the staff team.

Originally Posted by Tricxta and other Graal is becoming the new Farmville munchkins

Farmville

Graal and Farmville are games of two different genres and can't really be compared... However, I do see a point with your "more free stuff" idea, though I think Era iPhone does a pretty darn good job of that already (unlike Classic iPhone).