WIP: Zodiac iPhone

fowlplay4 · #1 01-04-2011, 12:53 AM

Just my previous V2 base for now but here's what we shaped the base UI into.

Updates/news will be announced when they occur.

RegretZ · #2 01-04-2011, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by fowlplay4

Just my previous V2 base for now but here's what we shaped the base UI into.

Updates/news will be announced when they occur.

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I can't see imageshack X.X
Can someone email it to me?

fowlplay4 · #3 01-04-2011, 12:59 AM

Used an attachment instead.

redsoxsrule424 · #4 01-04-2011, 01:07 AM

Wow looks good so far fowlplay!

RegretZ · #5 01-04-2011, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by fowlplay4

Used an attachment instead.

I have a suggestion for the spells and such!
Can I pm it to you by forum or by client? (Whichever you prefer)

fowlplay4 · #6 01-04-2011, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by RegretZ

I have a suggestion for the spells and such!
Can I pm it to you by forum or by client? (Whichever you prefer)

We are still working this out on our own, we'll open up for public suggestions when we're ready.

I will state two things that are very important to me and this project.

1. PvP
2. Instancing

cyan3 · #7 01-04-2011, 01:34 AM

Looks great so far

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Originally Posted by fowlplay4

2. Instancing

Instancing sounds very interesting and I'm looking forward to see how it will turn out. It will be a nice break from pvping to do quests etc in your own little world.

RegretZ · #8 01-04-2011, 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by fowlplay4

We are still working this out on our own, we'll open up for public suggestions when we're ready.

I will state two things that are very important to me and this project.

1. PvP
2. Instancing

With the amount of players you will be getting, PvP is going to be a big problem.
One idea is making pvp optional, so players who aren't fond of it won't be affected but the higher levels can go ahead and beat the crap out of each other.

Another big problem would be parties and shouts though.
Shouts are a huge part of zodiac, and on iphone....with that many players they may be a problem.

Also with parties, being able to see them and know who is in them as such.

cyan3 · #9 01-04-2011, 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by RegretZ

With the amount of players you will be getting, PvP is going to be a big problem.
One idea is making pvp optional,

I'm not totally sure how it will work yet but wouldn't instancing solve that problem? It would be impossible to kill somebody in a different instance.

RegretZ · #10 01-04-2011, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by cyan3

I'm not totally sure how it will work yet but wouldn't instancing solve that problem? It would be impossible to kill somebody in a different instance.

Yes but it would hurt the social aspect of Graal the way I see it. Graal is a very social-based game.

fowlplay4 · #11 01-04-2011, 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by cyan3

I'm not totally sure how it will work yet but wouldn't instancing solve that problem? It would be impossible to kill somebody in a different instance.

Yes that's one of the many benefits of instancing.

The primary reason is really just to lower the amount of players on screen, less lag, more fun.

I'm also opting towards a Hub-world (with social hubs of course) style rather than an Open-world.

RegretZ · #12 01-04-2011, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by fowlplay4

Yes that's one of the many benefits of instancing.

The primary reason is really just to lower the amount of players on screen, less lag, more fun.

I'm also opting towards a Hub-world (with social hubs of course) style rather than an Open-world.

That would be weird...I'm so used to seeing people on the overworld.

DustyPorViva · #13 01-04-2011, 02:21 AM

Is that image poorly compressed or did someone get happy with dithering?

RegretZ · #14 01-04-2011, 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

Is that image poorly compressed or did someone get happy with dithering?

I think it's the compression.

fowlplay4 · #15 01-04-2011, 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

Is that image poorly compressed or did someone get happy with dithering?

Judge it for yourself.

The image is zoomed in as well. I screen-capped it on my touch4g which has a higher res I think.

Twinny · #16 01-04-2011, 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by fowlplay4

Judge it for yourself.

The image is zoomed in as well. I screen-capped it on my touch4g which has a higher res I think.

The 4th generations are capable of higher resolution but I don't think Graal takes advantage of it (it would just make everything look zoomed out in the end). Can always check the GraalControl width and height though

Soala · #17 01-04-2011, 03:30 AM

Retina display was kinda made for that.
4 times more pixels on the screen = bigger img = more details = better look.

DustyPorViva · #18 01-04-2011, 03:33 AM

It's made for GUI's and a sleek interface, but it doesn't really have the power to render most games at that high of a resolution.

Tigairius · #19 01-04-2011, 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Twinny

The 4th generations are capable of higher resolution but I don't think Graal takes advantage of it (it would just make everything look zoomed out in the end). Can always check the GraalControl width and height though

I wish it would - it's not as if screen real estate isn't important.

RegretZ · #20 01-04-2011, 04:19 AM

Seeing as he said it was taken from his iPhone 4g I would suspect testing on the iPhone has commenced?

Twinny · #21 01-04-2011, 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Soala

Retina display was kinda made for that.
4 times more pixels on the screen = bigger img = more details = better look.

If the server was made from scratch to take advantage of it then it would be awesome. Currently, it would make things look very odd.

MagikMasterMind · #22 01-04-2011, 05:09 AM

Can't see how players will deal with over 2 skills including slashing their weapon imo

Crono · #23 01-04-2011, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by fowlplay4

I'm also opting towards a Hub-world (with social hubs of course) style rather than an Open-world.

Tyhm wants you in him, now.

Demisis_P2P · #24 01-04-2011, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by MagikMasterMind

Can't see how players will deal with over 2 skills including slashing their weapon imo

Could easily fit 5 more buttons in the same shape as the direction buttons with a melee attack in the middle.
But making modifier buttons and 2-3 actual hotkey buttons would allow for way more options.
I play WoW with an Xbox controller and I have 20 spells hotkeyed, as well as shortcuts to target each party member in 25 man raids.

Crono · #25 01-04-2011, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Demisis_P2P

I play WoW with an Xbox controller and I have 20 spells hotkeyed, as well as shortcuts to target each party member in 25 man raids.

What...

Demisis_P2P · #26 01-04-2011, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Crono

What...

Ya dude.
X, Y, A, B
LB + X, Y, A, B
LT + X, Y, A, B
RB + X, Y, A, B
RT + X, Y, A, B
For spells.

And then the same but with D-pad for targeting, plus left analogue stick in as another modifier.
Back and start are target next and target previous enemies.
Start + left analogue in is to target my target's target, etc. etc.

Would be a lot easier if there were PC drivers for the chatpad, but didn't take me long to get used to my current setup.

Crono · #27 01-04-2011, 01:38 PM

crazy.

RegretZ · #28 01-04-2011, 04:16 PM

I already contributed my idea ;3

smirt362 · #29 01-04-2011, 07:14 PM

How are you going to use skills and stuff?

Fulg0reSama · #30 01-04-2011, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by smirt362

how are you going to use skills and stuff?

voice commands!

Crono · #31 01-04-2011, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Fulg0reSama

voice commands!

"lightning bolt!"

"lightning bolt!"

"lightning bolt!"

"sleep!"

Fulg0reSama · #32 01-04-2011, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Crono

"lightning bolt!"

"lightning bolt!"

"lightning bolt!"

"sleep!"

"Fireball!"

"Fireball!"

"Fireball!"

"Fire' uh- GOD ****ING DAMN IT, FIRE THE ****ING FIREBALL YOU MOTHER ****ING PIECE OF **** GYAAAAAAH!"

smirt362 · #33 01-04-2011, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Fulg0reSama

voice commands!

The louder you scream, the more powerful they are.

Crono · #34 01-04-2011, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Fulg0reSama

"Fireball!"

"Fireball!"

"Fireball!"

"Fire' uh- GOD ****ING DAMN IT, FIRE THE ****ING FIREBALL YOU MOTHER ****ING PIECE OF **** GYAAAAAAH!"

Fulg0reSama · #35 01-04-2011, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by smirt362

The louder you scream, the more powerful they are.

Fireball would be the most powerful spell ever...

MattKan · #36 01-04-2011, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Crono

uhm wow

LordSquirt · #37 01-04-2011, 10:07 PM

I wish I lived there

gwFCCtennis · #38 01-06-2011, 12:51 AM

Are the spells going to use particle effects? It seems it would lag the client and crash (I crash on iEra just for opening the map half the time.)

fowlplay4 · #39 01-06-2011, 01:06 AM

Yes, particle effects are the only way we can really do it.

WhiteDragon · #40 01-06-2011, 01:10 AM

If you manage to get any info, it'd be interesting to know what sort of modifiers on the particles make stuff lag more than others, other efficiency-related concerns, etc.

Looks good so far, will be interesting how this'll turn out compared to the other iPhone servers.

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