Suggestions thread (Formerly: We're listening...)

[Donark]

Originally Posted by bloodykiller

players play this game to dodge bullets

I'm pretty sure you just tank bullets since you have an insane ammount of hp.

But don't alter the bullet speed, that would honestly ruin the game like Meph said. Any slower would cause your player to practicly out run bullets, and any faster bullet dodging would become too dificult. Look at Zone, you can't dodge on that server and it's lame.

[Demisis_P2P]

Originally Posted by Donark

I'm pretty sure you just tank bullets since you have an insane ammount of hp.

But don't alter the bullet speed, that would honestly ruin the game like Meph said. Any slower would cause your player to practicly out run bullets, and any faster bullet dodging would become too dificult. Look at Zone, you can't dodge on that server and it's lame.

Bullets seem slower now. I don't know whether it's because of the movement system being rescripted twice, or because of caps and speed potions. But they definitely seem about 10-15% slower than they used to be.

Not to mention that after the SG552 was released every other gun in the game had it's freeze basically halved to match up, so players are certainly more agile than they were in the past. Remember when Meph wanted to go back and add that freeze back to the guns? I'd rather achieve the same result by just increasing the bullet speed a bit.

Saying that it would ruin PKing is a bit far fetched. You would still easily be able to dodge and weave, but you'd just need to readjust a bit, just like we had to after the new movement system came out.

[Meph]

Originally Posted by Demisis_P2P

Not to mention that after the SG552 was released every other gun in the game had it's freeze basically halved to match up, so players are certainly more agile than they were in the past. Remember when Meph wanted to go back and add that freeze back to the guns? I'd rather achieve the same result by just increasing the bullet speed a bit.

Saying that it would ruin PKing is a bit far fetched. You would still easily be able to dodge and weave, but you'd just need to readjust a bit, just like we had to after the new movement system came out.

I still say the guns need to be slowed down. I saw some guy at unstick the other saying, literally: "I own so much. This Shipka makes it to where I don't even have to try." That tells me that there's a problem- that a guy seriously thinks he "owns" because he has a weapon.

Back when guns were level, there weren't as many "good" PKers as there are now; simply because it required more to master PKing back then than it does now.
1) You couldn't guard two directions at once, and keep your opponent in a corner.
2) You couldn't ride your opponent's ass firing without losing walk speed.

Increasing the bullet speed wouldn't solve these two problems; and yes, I identify them as problems.

Take raiding, for example. I remember single-handedly going into a base and being able to, literally, take out four people. Effortlessly. Two things are true here:
1) Everybody sucked back then. It required more to be good.
2) Nowadays, two people can produce more bullets-per-second than four could back in 2003.

It's not the bullets' fault that we screwed up the guns and our players are just too addicted to effortlessly being good at PKing to accept it as a problem.

[Supaman771]

Originally Posted by Meph

I still say the guns need to be slowed down. I saw some guy at unstick the other saying, literally: "I own so much. This Shipka makes it to where I don't even have to try." That tells me that there's a problem- that a guy seriously thinks he "owns" because he has a weapon.

Back when guns were level, there weren't as many "good" PKers as there are now; simply because it required more to master PKing back then than it does now.
1) You couldn't guard two directions at once, and keep your opponent in a corner.
2) You couldn't ride your opponent's ass firing without losing walk speed.

Increasing the bullet speed wouldn't solve these two problems; and yes, I identify them as problems.

Take raiding, for example. I remember single-handedly going into a base and being able to, literally, take out four people. Effortlessly. Two things are true here:
1) Everybody sucked back then. It required more to be good.
2) Nowadays, two people can produce more bullets-per-second than four could back in 2003.

It's not the bullets' fault that we screwed up the guns and our players are just too addicted to effortlessly being good at PKing to accept it as a problem.

I still like to claim "It's not the gun you use, it's how you use it."

That statement is still true in some certain cases (Ex: I flawlessed JKL my mp5 vs his m1, and I can still flawless him my uzi vs his mp5), but not enough anymore.

Era has certainly lost it's skill factor due to the guns being the way they are. The goal being changed from 'practice to get better and win' to 'buy _____ and you win'.

So yea, all guns could be slowed by a percentage of speed or totally changed around (as I know Wil/GC wanted to do in their combined week as 'Gun Admins') to improve gameplay. But we all know it'll never happen and even if it did it isn't enough to save Era and blah...

[Tim_Rocks]

Idea: lets just go back to using an uzi, shotgun, handgun and ak47.

[Supaman771]

Originally Posted by Tim_Rocks

Idea: lets just go back to using an uzi, shotgun, handgun and ak47.

Unfortunately most of the players from that time period have quit over the past few years (managements). So you'd get MUCH more 'Whaa...' than 'Yaya!'.

Also, to simplify back to that would probably require a reset, which would kill whats left of Era since nothing has been done.

[deathbarrier99]

Originally Posted by Tim_Rocks

Idea: lets just go back to using an uzi, shotgun, handgun and ak47.

Going back to that system would remove Era's diversity (removing gang guns, etc.). I just think some guns are in need of an intense nerf, there needs to be SOME sort of freeze. Come on, logical thinking please.

[scooter123]

Originally Posted by deathbarrier99

Going back to that system would remove Era's diversity (removing gang guns, etc.). I just think some guns are in need of an intense nerf, there needs to be SOME sort of freeze. Come on, logical thinking please.

We could give gang guns special modifications of certain guns used in the game to prevent too many weapons. With a small amount of weapons that are still balanced we can give some modifications for gangs

[Cubical]

Originally Posted by Donark

I'm pretty sure you just tank bullets since you have an insane ammount of hp.

But don't alter the bullet speed, that would honestly ruin the game like Meph said. Any slower would cause your player to practicly out run bullets, and any faster bullet dodging would become too dificult. Look at Zone, you can't dodge on that server and it's lame.

You can to an extent however the freeze does hinder the ability to dodge like you can on Era.