Classic Graal for iPhone

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by fowlplay4

Nvm Era, seconds after this post the playercount dropped by 10.

Pics or it didn't happen.



EDIT: A lot of these people don't play "real" Graal. Adding some kind of "Play the desktop version at http://graalonline.com/" on the login screen could bring in quite a bit of traffic. There are already around 20 reviews (mostly all positive) and a decent number of players.

[Unkownsoldier]

Do you think there could be some stats recorded? Like kills and maybe can we have sparring? I mean mindless killing is fun but you never get noted for it ahah

[salesman]

Originally Posted by Unkownsoldier

Do you think there could be some stats recorded? Like kills and maybe can we have sparring? I mean mindless killing is fun but you never get noted for it ahah

Yeah, I meant to include this in my list of suggestions...it would definitely be nice to see your kills and deaths in your profile.

[Nataxo]

5 bucks to whoever tells me what's wrong with this image!

[Door]

Originally Posted by Nataxo

5 bucks to whoever tells me what's wrong with this image!

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That bandanna he has on does not match those shoes!

[Rufus]

Originally Posted by Nataxo

5 bucks to whoever tells me what's wrong with this image!

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Hahaha that image has Shimmy written all over it.

[Crono]

Classic resurrected~

[alskdjfhg]

I want to play with people on Classic iPhone from my PC : [

[Elk]

Originally Posted by alskdjfhg

I want to play with people on Classic iPhone from my PC : [

Accountnames like yours should be forbidden

[12171217]

Originally Posted by Nataxo

5 bucks to whoever tells me what's wrong with this image!

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Nothing wrong, as it's on the very, very last page. Right where it belongs among the other apps of obscurity and boredom

[Demisis_P2P]

Originally Posted by Unkownsoldier

Do you think there could be some stats recorded? Like kills and maybe can we have sparring? I mean mindless killing is fun but you never get noted for it ahah

Does saying showkills and showdeaths not work?
They might still be getting recorded even if there is no way to view them.

[oo_jazz_oo]

I talked with a few people on there who never played the pc version...

It was basically the same thing. "Whats there to do?" XD

They were asking for quests n such, and said they had been searching for them. lol

[Crono]

lets make some quests guys ^_^

[WarLord2004]

Nom Nom..

But does the server have baddies?? But on that note i hope it updates. Possibly try the theme you was using on Graal2001 with bomy pets,riding carts..ect that would spice up the game very much. Pk is basically out of style.

I mean we have tried to push foward many times.. Graal Kingdoms/ Graal 3d /Zone but then again the old days was the best ...

Ps: Would v6 fix the issue for client users? If not why not make another .exe that's standard to graaliphone only....

[EclipsedAngel]

Wow that many people have the iphone? wtf I want to play via PC.

[Sam]

Another suggestion: there should be a "Pause" modus. It's quite annoying for a new player to experience the game being a victim of pking.

[Vima]

Originally Posted by cbk1994

Look out, UN.

That's awesome! :] Maybe this could be the way to save Graal.

[Elk]

should see the Adrenaline Pool or Poker...they are always above 100

[Liberated]

it can't connect to the server, D=, and yes my wifi is on and has a network.

[Vima]

Why can't people from PC connect to the Classic Iphone server? I can connect but I get disconnected right when I enter.
It would be awesome if we could play with the Iphone users :]

[Deas_Voice]

Originally Posted by Vima

Why can't people from PC connect to the Classic Iphone server? I can connect but I get disconnected right when I enter.
It would be awesome if we could play with the Iphone users :]

Read the thread please.

Originally Posted by Stefan

The iphone server is a little bit buggy for PC players right now (bombs don't show, arrows fly strangely) that's why they are warped to login server. We need to release v6 soon

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Elk

should see the Adrenaline Pool or Poker...they are always above 100

We don't care about that, it's not Graal.

[Kamaeru]

Graal2001 version now, please.

[Angel_Light]

So, when are they releasing a Blackberry App? I know a simple converter for iphone apps to blackberry (touchscreen and track ball/pad)

[Vman13x]

Add zone as one of the servers (my opinion)

[Elk]

Too many effects

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by Angel_Light

So, when are they releasing a Blackberry App? I know a simple converter for iphone apps to blackberry (touchscreen and track ball/pad)

I really, really doubt that. It would be virtually impossible to do.

[Naytria]

I think that this version of the game is actually pretty fun, indeed. If there's changes made, they should be additions, and not changes to the core part of the game.

To be honest, I enjoy playing this much more than I enjoy playing Graal on PC. Graal on PC is filled with garbage and bad-looking servers (UN, Era, etc), lots of extra stuff that doesn't work, lame things like pause. If a newbie wants to avoid being PKed, he can just go inside... Being PKed isn't that big of a deal, you respawn where you died.

Graal Classic for iPhone is just pure fun, PKing, teaming up/trying not to TK, running around in mobs looking for people, without all the hassle of bad looking playerheads, worthless playerhouses, pause, and other annoyances.

One of the things I like the most is that bombs, arrows, and sword all do .5 hearts damage, which actually makes the bow useful. For close range sword is faster, because there's the delay in the bow so it's really replacing the sword by any means.

This platform fits the iPhone perfectly, as garbage like AP bars, Q-Menus, Pausing, etc would just clutter your screen or add more unnecessary menus. You can still have fun quests, puzzles, and bosses with the same platform there is now and you wouldn't compromise any of the fun.

Being a Graal player from ages ago, this is what I've been looking for. Like when complicated Art-Deco architecture gets to it's detail breaking point and becomes simplified and modern, along with musical forms of Jazz such as bebop becoming fast and overly complicated, Miles Davis comes along and strips it to it's bare minimum.

And hey, guess what? People dig it.

[Ares]

only bad thing is i lag terribly now that there's 50+ people on
other then that it's pretty fun

[Naytria]

Why are swords now disabled in the level outside of the bank and the rest of Graal City? This is stupid now, designated PK areas make it no fun. The whole overworld should be pk.

[oo_jazz_oo]

The 'nopk' areas arent even nopk...people just pick up signs/bushes to kill players. XD

Just enable swords everywhere....and whats the point of the one baddie outside graal castle?
Its harder than hell to beat, and its just...there. For no reason.

[Naytria]

Yeah. Swords should be enabled everywhere outside on the map, and in all dungeons.

[DustyPorViva]

Heh, so you've got a server with no quests or even a sparring system, and the only thing to do is PK and you've disabled PKing in the most popular PK spot?

[Sam]

It is necessary to give new players a chance to orient oneself in the game. They will lose interest if they getting bombed and killed all the time.

I still see Classic as a quest and adventure game. Player killing is as long interesting for the amount of people as they have some victims.
Why "encourage" players to kill players even if they just want to look around or chatting with someone else?
There are PK-Zones for those who like to fight.

iPhone Classic should be an adventure and getting quests step by step.
Don't forget Eurocenter will also earn some money, so they could instead of selling outfits, limit the quests like:
quest 1-3 is Classic Vol. 1
quest 4-6 is Classic vol. 2 and so on.

[DustyPorViva]

Originally Posted by Sam

It is necessary to give new players a chance to orient oneself in the game. They will lose interest if they getting bombed and killed all the time.

I still see Classic as a quest and adventure game. Player killing is as long interesting for the amount of people as they have some victims.
Why "encourage" players to kill players even if they just want to look around or chatting with someone else?
There are PK-Zones for those who like to fight.

iPhone Classic should be an adventure and getting quests step by step.
Don't forget Eurocenter will also earn some money, so they could instead of selling outfits, limit the quests like:
quest 1-3 is Classic Vol. 1
quest 4-6 is Classic vol. 2 and so on.

So what are they going to do to get oriented in the game? ... there's nothing else to do but PK. If they can't even PK(or get PKed) then all they can do is sit around.

I'm all for making the lives of newbies easier. I am a firm believer in less laming and more fun experiences... but dude, level14 is THE PK spot, and Graal city is where everything happens. Make those areas no PK and you may as well not have PK at all. Give players another area to get situated and familiar with.

I'm not even a PKer(and like I said, I hate laming and actually annoyed by PKing) and I can see it wasn't a very wise decision. Just let insides be no-pk.

[Naytria]

Overworld should be PK, they can orient themselves if you guys make a newbie training course or something. That's enough orientation to tell them that if they go into the big bad world, they'll have to fight. If they want to be safe they can run inside.

Being killed anyways isn't bad... they just get right up again. It shouldn't be offensive.

[Crono]

Getting the Graal formula down is not hard, not with more than a decade of experience and history lol (especially when you've got new blood in the mix, at last).

[Sam]

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

So what are they going to do to get oriented in the game? ... there's nothing else to do but PK. If they can't even PK(or get PKed) then all they can do is sit around.

I'm all for making the lives of newbies easier. I am a firm believer in less laming and more fun experiences... but dude, level14 is THE PK spot, and Graal city is where everything happens. Make those areas no PK and you may as well not have PK at all. Give players another area to get situated and familiar with.

I'm not even a PKer(and like I said, I hate laming and actually annoyed by PKing) and I can see it wasn't a very wise decision. Just let insides be no-pk.

A main problem is right now we have 2 different kind of players: those who are firm with Graal over years and those who are absolutely newbies. I am sure there are also many looking for an adventure game like Zelda and don't expect to get killed all the time.
Is it possible to meld an adventure game ala Zelda with a killing game ala Era?
If it is intended so we need at last a protection modus you can enable to be not able to kill or getting killed, but still able to use weapons on monsters.

Whenever I login with my iPhone a wild mob of players coming and throw bombs, and shot with arrows on me before I even can start to move, because of all the lag.
It reminds me of the old days when lag was the main problem on Graal.
You are right when you say there is nothing else to do, but this is because it was released a little too early without any content.

We can assume what Eurocenter is planning and make improvement suggestions, but much better would be to know what exactly they want to have: a copy of the old Classic adventure or a PK Classic game with some quests.
Really, why do we need always make a mixture of quest game, events game and killing game?
Let's make 3 games so everyone can choose his preferred kind of game.

[DustyPorViva]

If people are spamming bombs/arrows, it's already been brought up before that unlimited ammo needs to be ditched.

[12171217]

Stefan should add framerate-dependent movement on all objects in the game..

It's an industry standard now, you know?