Global Development Team?

[Pelikano]

Originally Posted by Bell

Why do I get the feeling I'm wasting my time on this.

No response needed.

Because people don't understand that Stefan doesn't give a crap about their uber development skills and won't give them development tools with which they can change graal.

[Sinkler]

Good idea! I think this will really benefit Graal as a whole and help bring new players to Graal.

[Pelikano]

I'm smelling waste of time

[WhiteDragon]

Maybe if this was a small group of developers that have a direct line of contact with Stefan?

That way there would be a good representation of what the development community needs.
Stefan would have to deal with less PMs from frustrated developers and he would always know that what comes out of the group is important.

Edit:
Note that this would probably help the "communication break" between a lot of the developers and Stefan.

Obviously, this all depends on if Stefan agrees to always listen to what the team has to say.

[Inverness]

Originally Posted by WhiteDragon

Maybe if this was a small group of developers that have a direct line of contact with Stefan?

That way there would be a good representation of what the development community needs.
Stefan would have to deal with less PMs from frustrated developers and he would always know that what comes out of the group is important.

Edit:
Note that this would probably help the "communication break" between a lot of the developers and Stefan.

Obviously, this all depends on if Stefan agrees to always listen to what the team has to say.

I absolutely agree, but I also thought that was implied. If that is not one of the aspects of the team (as it stands now) then it needs to be.

[Gambet]

Originally Posted by WhiteDragon

Maybe if this was a small group of developers that have a direct line of contact with Stefan?

That way there would be a good representation of what the development community needs.
Stefan would have to deal with less PMs from frustrated developers and he would always know that what comes out of the group is important.

Edit:
Note that this would probably help the "communication break" between a lot of the developers and Stefan.

Obviously, this all depends on if Stefan agrees to always listen to what the team has to say.

Originally Posted by Inverness

I absolutely agree, but I also thought that was implied. If that is not one of the aspects of the team (as it stands now) then it needs to be.

Having a line of connection with Stefan is not as great as some of you put it out to be. Sure, he gets back to you on your messages, but it can sometimes take a few days. It's nothing out of this world and wouldn't really change much since it's more important for him to actually be doing something rather than just talking about it.

[Inverness]

Originally Posted by Gambet

Having a line of connection with Stefan is not as great as some of you put it out to be. Sure, he gets back to you on your messages, but it can sometimes take a few days. It's nothing out of this world and wouldn't really change much since it's more important for him to actually be doing something rather than just talking about it.

I agree with that point.

In an ideal situation, I believe the GDT would organize requested features for Graal based on an observed need for the features across the various playerworlds and communicate their findings with Stefan. The GDT might then create a demonstration of how to use the feature based on what it is and have that made available for playerworlds to use.

[Spark910]

Originally Posted by WhiteDragon

Maybe if this was a small group of developers that have a direct line of contact with Stefan?

That way there would be a good representation of what the development community needs.
Stefan would have to deal with less PMs from frustrated developers and he would always know that what comes out of the group is important.

Isn't this what the PWA is? To some extent, at least, whether or not that line of communication exists and is listened to is another thing.

We can't listen to every developer - at least through the PWA the ones responsible for making money and creating subscriptions have the opportunity to get through issues.

[Ronnie]

Bell, the first step to the creation of this team would be to find a leader with enough intelligence and devotion to lead the team, without a great leader there will be nothing.

[Clockwork]

Originally Posted by Ronnie

Bell, the first step to the creation of this team would be to find a leader with enough intelligence and devotion to lead the team, without a great leader there will be nothing.

It was already stated that a PWA (yet undecided) would be the leader.

[Inverness]

Why does the team need a leader exactly? I don't see a problem with the PWA (or Bell) managing the application process. Beyond that I don't see why the team needs a leader? I would prefer all members have an equal say unless there is a specific reason to do otherwise.

[Hiro]

Originally Posted by Inverness

Why does the team need a leader exactly? I don't see a problem with the PWA (or Bell) managing the application process. Beyond that I don't see why the team needs a leader? I would prefer all members have an equal say unless there is a specific reason to do otherwise.

well then why don't we just give all well known and noticeable developers a GDT tag who want one so that they can all help out and contribute? if there isn't going to be any type of leadership, then any developer should be able to join

[Inverness]

Originally Posted by Hiro

well then why don't we just give all well known and noticeable developers a GDT tag who want one so that they can all help out and contribute? if there isn't going to be any type of leadership, then any developer should be able to join

And what kind of logic made you come to that conclusion? You also haven't answered my question: why does the team need a leader? The team does not need a designated leader to have leadership.

[Hiro]

Originally Posted by Inverness

And what kind of logic made you come to that conclusion? You also haven't answered my question: why does the team need a leader? The team does not need a designated leader to have leadership.

having no leader means there won't be any clear direction for the team to take under the guidance of one person: in a counsel setting, things will be split up based upon either voting or volunteering. if it's going to be done that way, it will be most productive and worth while with a larger group of developers who wish to be apart of the group, because the more votes the more opinions and brainstorming power, and the more work will get volunteered to people who want to do the job - there shouldn't have to be any serious application process, only a small one so that the team knows who wants to join. this is especially true if the team isn't only for development purposes

also i never meant to answer why you needed a leader. i don't think you need one, i just point out that if the team is going leaderless, then the more the merrier, and the more the mightier

[Inverness]

Originally Posted by Hiro

having no leader means there won't be any clear direction for the team to take under the guidance of one person: in a counsel setting, things will be split up based upon either voting or volunteering. if it's going to be done that way, it will be most productive and worth while with a larger group of developers who wish to be apart of the group, because the more votes the more opinions and brainstorming power, and the more work will get volunteered to people who want to do the job - there shouldn't have to be any serious application process, only a small one so that the team knows who wants to join. this is especially true if the team isn't only for development purposes

also i never meant to answer why you needed a leader. i don't think you need one, i just point out that if the team is going leaderless, then the more the merrier, and the more the mightier

I'm still failing to understand why you think that the application process should not be serious if there is no leader? You need to explain that in more detail.

I sure as hell don't want a bunch of people on the team just because they want to be there, that would decrease the significance of being on the team and its effectiveness as a whole. It is quality vs. quantity; you seem to think that just because the team might not have a leader that it can't be a quality team, and I don't understand your reasoning.