this needs to be discussed

[Darklux]

Originally Posted by Hiro

how do we even organize that, or get the people who don't post or view the forums to get in on it, or understand why we're doing it in the first place?

the very lack of seriousness by certain members of the forum also adds to this problem. it discredits the rest of us who can take it seriously, since then the "thread is ruined"

They will laugh that we wasted a day of our gold subscription.

@ Stephen:
People are moaning that their favorite game is being ruined by the management.
Of couse: We can develop better servers, we can tell friends about it, we can play it. But we can do nothing about the outside marketing and about graal shrinking every day.
There is no roadmap, no announced upcoming features, no real development on client, server and especially the devtools.

If the management is not willing to invest more time or time at all: close it down or lower gold subscriptions, so that it only covers hosting costs - because:
Are we men't to pay for our own work, while the mgmt relaxes in their seats and laugh? They are certainly doing no noticeable work at the moment.

I understand that most parts of graal are developed by the community, but they should atleast work on their turf, too: Client updates, upcoming features, new concepts to fetch more players, better devtools - and no scam, as it seems to be at the moment.

[Hiro]

Originally Posted by Darklux

They will laugh that we wasted a day of our gold subscription.

@ Stephen:
People are moaning that their favorite game is being ruined by the management.
Of couse: We can develop better servers, we can tell friends about it, we can play it. But we can do nothing about the outside marketing and about graal shrinking every day.
There is no roadmap, no announced upcoming features, no real development on client, server and especially the devtools.

If the management is not willing to invest more time or time at all: close it down or lower gold subscriptions, so that it only covers hosting costs - because:
Are we men't to pay for our own work, while the mgmt relaxes in their seats and laugh? They are certainly doing no noticeable work at the moment.

I understand that most parts of graal are developed by the community, but they should atleast work on their turf, too: Client updates, upcoming features, new concepts to fetch more players, better devtools - and no scam, as it seems to be at the moment.

completely agree. having rights to the playerworld you made is not comparable to how much money the owners are making off it. not that it's a terrible deal, it's just not fair. the people upstairs have to keep up their end of the bargain - advertisements, updates, information announcements, and help to the players that need it. this may not be the real motivation, but it seems that they want to work on other aspects of their business as we keep the core of their business operating - and we get practically nothing in return