Please Welcome Xor

[Loriel]

Originally Posted by Hiro

i don't see where you get to go making rash generalizations

I tried to not actually do that and instead just point out how easy it is!

the PWA clearly knew who he was when i, and many others, did not.

Good thing they dictate their hiring process, then, right?

it means they have to had been spending the time getting to know him through graal-a more preferable way in their opinion-but then why didn't they take the time to get to know all the other applicants or potential members on graal too?

It is pretty ridiculous to assume that they picked out a dude at random and started paying attention to him over the applications forum just to spite you. It strikes me as much more plausible that Xor happened to have to deal with some PWA a lot through no fault of either of the involved parties and some sort of sufficient acquaintance was built up entirely lacking any malicious intent.

Edit: Wait why am I defending the PWA again; down with the oppressive global administration and their ridiculous hiring practices, etc.

[Scary_Sock]

Originally Posted by Loriel

I tried to not actually do that and instead just point out how easy it is!



Good thing they dictate their hiring process, then, right?



It is pretty ridiculous to assume that they picked out a dude at random and started paying attention to him over the applications forum just to spite you. It strikes me as much more plausible that Xor happened to have to deal with some PWA a lot through no fault of either of the involved parties and some sort of sufficient acquaintance was built up entirely lacking any malicious intent.

Edit: Wait why am I defending the PWA again; down with the oppressive global administration and their ridiculous hiring practices, etc.

I might as well be honest on what will happen. This thread will close because of the flaming, and no one will speak of it again. If it DOES come up again, that thread will be deleted for another flame war, and deleted threads can NOT be re-created. But I agree, no one ever knew who Xor was, and I think that should be part of being a PWA to be known well on the community.

[BigBear3]

Originally Posted by Scary_Sock

I might as well be honest on what will happen. This thread will close because of the flaming, and no one will speak of it again. If it DOES come up again, that thread will be deleted for another flame war, and deleted threads can NOT be re-created. But I agree, no one ever knew who Xor was, and I think that should be part of being a PWA to be known well on the community.

Kinda like Barack Obama.

[Hiro]

Originally Posted by Loriel

It is pretty ridiculous to assume that they picked out a dude at random and started paying attention to him over the applications forum just to spite you. It strikes me as much more plausible that Xor happened to have to deal with some PWA a lot through no fault of either of the involved parties and some sort of sufficient acquaintance was built up entirely lacking any malicious intent.

Edit: Wait why am I defending the PWA again; down with the oppressive global administration and their ridiculous hiring practices, etc.

please don't try and pin me up as one of those "anti-PWA dictator" bull****ters, that isn't the point, and i'm not trying to defend my ego on having applied, because i haven't. the point is that applications are pretty useless, since it's been made perfectly clear that they aren't the preferred method of PWA hiring (or any other global staff i suspect). then why are they even on here? why did they have a bunch of people apply when they didn't want to hire people like that anyways? it gets people's hopes up when they apply for something, so to see that it isn't preferred, and it isn't even necessarily required; makes it difficult to reason out why they applied in the first place? it's like a big list of people who didn't make it so far

also, in support for xen, when i came back to the forums and saw that there was an application section specifically for global staff, i was pretty excited. since graal was being portrayed as a development platform, it made sense that the people on the forums would be the active ones, the developers and such. so having them apply for a global position would be good - the community could comment on the people, the globals could post in support or for against someone if they wanted too, maybe even making the thread for another person to see how the community thought about it; it was a good open process. seeing how things have currently happened though, it seems i have misjudged what i saw

[Lyndzey]

Originally Posted by Hiro

the point is that applications are pretty useless, since it's been made perfectly clear that they aren't the preferred method of PWA hiring (or any other global staff i suspect). then why are they even on here? why did they have a bunch of people apply when they didn't want to hire people like that anyways? it gets people's hopes up when they apply for something, so to see that it isn't preferred, and it isn't even necessarily required; makes it difficult to reason out why they applied in the first place? it's like a big list of people who didn't make it so far

I agree completely. The application forum for PWA is unnecessary. It was used by HoudiniMan, and now that he's gone, it is pretty much worthless.

[Vima]

congrats Xor

[Loriel]

Originally Posted by Hiro

the point is that applications are pretty useless, since it's been made perfectly clear that they aren't the preferred method of PWA hiring

Oh, yeah, I totally do not disagree with that, hence the edit.

since graal was being protrayed as a development platform, it made sense that the people on the forums would be the active ones, the developers and such. so having them apply for a global position would be good

I think it is a pretty big fallacy that is at the root of what is wrong with Graal that you need to be appointed into a position of power before you can start doing useful work. Not disagreeing, though, I guess.