New Manager

[Dark_Zeratul101]

It's very simple. Clash kept promising that the VERY ambitious New Valikorlia project would eventually be finished. Every time the deadline would be met, he would always delay and delay it. The players got sick of it and most of them left.

[Sinkler]

Originally Posted by Dark_Zeratul101

It's very simple. Clash kept promising that the VERY ambitious New Valikorlia project would eventually be finished. Every time the deadline would be met, he would always delay and delay it. The players got sick of it and most of them left.

Clash was also a very rude/mean manager but clearly was not able to get New Valikorlia up. Your belief that any mean manager can get things done is countered by the argument of Clash.

[Dark_Zeratul101]

Originally Posted by Sinkler

Clash was also a very rude/mean manager but clearly was not able to get New Valikorlia up. Your belief that any mean manager can get things done is countered by the argument of Clash.

I didn't say ANY mean manager can get things done. I was just pointing out a contrast to explain that just because a manager is mean doesn't mean it's a downfall.

your reference to Jesse being a bad manager is because of corruption, not because of how nice or mean he was.

I was using Jesse as an example because people think that "being nice" is a requirement to being a good manager. You see, the absolute sole reason he was corrupt is because he was too nice and pampered his staff no matter how awful they were. It's a case of "indirect corruption".

[Sinkler]

Originally Posted by Dark_Zeratul101

I didn't say ANY mean manager can get things done. I was just pointing out a contrast to explain that just because a manager is mean doesn't mean it's a downfall.


I was using Jesse as an example because people think that "being nice" is a requirement to being a good manager. You see, the absolute sole reason he was corrupt is because he was too nice and pampered his staff no matter how awful they were. It's a case of "indirect corruption".

But see in Jesse's case, it had nothing to do really with him being nice. He turned a blind eye to corrupt. I am sure being nice allowed it to continue for so long, but I wouldn't sight that as a major attribute for his lack of managing skills.

I understand what point you're trying to get across, but being nice and mean has little to do with how you help the server. I am not denying that it has any influence on the manager, but it's based solely in my opinion if the manager is doing his job as well as keeping staff in line.

[Dark_Zeratul101]

Originally Posted by Sinkler

But see in Jesse's case, it had nothing to do really with him being nice. He turned a blind eye to corrupt. I am sure being nice allowed it to continue for so long, but I wouldn't sight that as a major attribute for his lack of managing skills.

His corruption stems from his extreme empathy for his staff/friends. I've actually met him a while ago and when I brought up the subject of Valikorlia to him, he ranted about how all the players are evil and cruel and etc. etc etc. I truly believe he is innocent, but dumb and biased as bricks.

I understand what point you're trying to get across, but being nice and mean has little to do with how you help the server. I am not denying that it has any influence on the manager, but it's based solely in my opinion if the manager is doing his job as well as keeping staff in line.

I know, I just wanted to explain to Exhausted about my point.