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They're too boring. Like a real newspaper. It needs more pizazzz. Knawwww Meeeeen?!
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Spikekid's would be prefect if the newspaper item was the same color as the pages.
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haha that's a very very easy fix. I could do that myself.
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We would also need a new icon as well. Tanish-orange newspapers as stacked, suare papers don't look good.
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That doesn't necessarily look "modern."
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Jac's is awesome because it's something new, but it doesn't really look newspaperish. I think it'd be a cool GUI for something else, like for the normal news GUI era has for when you press n.
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I finally got it together and realized how stupid I was of not knowing how to log on to these forums....

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It might not look like your daily newspapers, but it's a 2D game with people eating Cheese and Donuts to be healthy, so a good newspaper image won't change a thing.

Here is the image once again:
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i think it looks friggin badass, but i couldn't ever see newspaper text being put on it. Era needs to use it for something though :/
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Loving the idea's guys, Chris showed me something very special for Era News which i can't mention anything about but you're going to love it.
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Lets just say the new system idea is freaking awesome!
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It might not look like your daily newspapers, but it's a 2D game with people eating Cheese and Donuts to be healthy, so a good newspaper image won't change a thing.

Here is the image once again:
Interesting.

I feel like too many (well, pretty much all) of the entries have been predictable.

This isn't exactly a conventional design, which makes me like it. That being said, there's definitely some problems. First of all, it's a newspaper and not a canvas. While creative freedom can be found within a design such as a newspaper, you also need to think about utility and target audience. It's that same kind of vibe from the Era Hotel logo, where you've got some interesting things going on with the piece itself, but it doesn't fit the actual role it is being designed for.

The textures in the background of the paper certainly add visual interest and personality to the paper, but I don't think they're being very effective right now. I think there are many elements in this paper that are overdone; but! could be turned into very effective elements in the design.

There's a little too much going on with the textures themselves. There's stains, damage, and abstract square patterns in the right corner. The abstract squares are the first to jump out at me. I don't get their purpose, they feel tacked on just to add another layer of texture, and they're really not needed at all. The same can be said for the damage. A little wear and tear or perhaps hints that this is indeed a newspaper (emphasis on paper) and not a word document slapped on our screen is good. That being said, it looks too chaotic and damaged to be any sort of real newspaper. Just because Era is based on gangs and gunplay doesn't mean the newspapers wouldn't at least start out being printed in good condition. If you found this newspaper crumpled up in the corner of the sewers, it'd look about right. And if you're not thinking of this as real "damage" to the paper and just a visual way of communicating the gritty feel of Era, I can't help but feel it's a bit cliche and cheesy.

Seeing as how I'm writing a mini-novel, let's talk about the text for a minute.

First of all, I like that you're actually playing around with creating some interest in the text itself. Most of the other entries are so entirely dull that I don't think even people in the 1940s (which is what time period most of the design schemes remind me of) would want to pick up and read them. However, once again...it feels overdone. I don't like the 3D aspect of the text. It doesn't really have a place in a newspaper. Outlines are also something you want to use sparingly when playing around with type. They can work, but they also don't work. It doesn't look terrible with the outline, but it doesn't look great either. Combine that with the flourishes and damaged parts of the text itself and it just feels like stacks of random effects that lack the necessary cohesion in a design like a newspaper.

As for the layout, that's something I like. It's not the usual PERFECT RECTANGLE, LINE DIVIDING, NEXT PERFECT RECTANGLE, blah blah boring, uninspired designs that seem so prevalent. The negative space created by those shapes is excellent. Keep that.

This goes for a lot of the designs I've seen, but I really can't stand little pictures of Era on the title "ERA NEWS" section. I can understand screenshots for the stories and such...but it just looks terrible when you're trying to set up a cohesive design, and then you've got this out of place screenshot of a game bleeding into it.

Don't take this post the wrong way, I'm not trying to single out your design and shred it to pieces. I'm giving it the most attention because I see the most potential in it right now. With a little work and a realization that often times in a design less is more, I think you could have something good there.
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Daz removed the safe because he says that Era News writers should write for fun, (not writing to be paid)
Yeah, I'm going to double post. Whatever.

I read this and I had to reply.

That's absolutely absurd logic. Does Daz think journalists and all the jobs that fall under that career field don't get paid, and that it's some sort of elaborate volunteer scheme?

People are paid money for tapping A 600 times a week, yet writing a mock newspaper should just be a hobby?

If journalism is a hobby job on Era, god help the rest of the current/future businesses.
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Monty, first off, this is a newspaper. While creativity should be embraced, newspapers don't exactly need to be unpredictable. What's the last newspaper you ordered in which the style wasn't "predictable?" The squares and "damage" to the newspaper are just visual decorations, so that it's not just a solid silver square with a picture on it. That's what makes the whole GUI look cool to begin with. And your argument about tapping a trillions of times, which takes longer and require more labor? Mining minerals, stocking weapons, and attempting to be more competitive than 1-4 other businesses or writing a short, 100- word entry to a newspaper where everyone has to buy it for 50 dollars from that store or else they're SOL?

and I think it's a little extreme to say "God help the rest of the future businesses" just because a monopolized, simple job isn't being paid.

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It doesnt matter to me if we get paid or not,I mean getting paid would help me,so I can get ammo and such,but I like Era News either way.
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Monty, first off, this is a newspaper. While creativity should be embraced, newspapers don't exactly need to be unpredictable. What's the last newspaper you ordered in which the style wasn't "predictable?" The squares and "damage" to the newspaper are just visual decorations, so that it's not just a solid silver square with a picture on it. That's what makes the whole GUI look cool to begin with. And your argument about tapping a trillions of times, which takes longer and require more labor? Mining minerals, stocking weapons, and attempting to be more competitive than 1-4 other businesses or writing a short, 100- word entry to a newspaper where everyone has to buy it for 50 dollars from that store or else they're SOL?

and I think it's a little extreme to say "God help the rest of the future businesses" just because a monopolized, simple job isn't being paid.

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It's a design contest not a "let's all submit the same thing and hope we get lucky" contest. As far as not getting paid, I think that's kind of silly...they should atleast get something.
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It's a design contest not a "let's all submit the same thing and hope we get lucky" contest. As far as not getting paid, I think that's kind of silly...they should atleast get something.
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Monty, first off, this is a newspaper. While creativity should be embraced, newspapers don't exactly need to be unpredictable. What's the last newspaper you ordered in which the style wasn't "predictable?" The squares and "damage" to the newspaper are just visual decorations, so that it's not just a solid silver square with a picture on it. That's what makes the whole GUI look cool to begin with. And your argument about tapping a trillions of times, which takes longer and require more labor? Mining minerals, stocking weapons, and attempting to be more competitive than 1-4 other businesses or writing a short, 100- word entry to a newspaper where everyone has to buy it for 50 dollars from that store or else they're SOL?

and I think it's a little extreme to say "God help the rest of the future businesses" just because a monopolized, simple job isn't being paid.

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I entirely agree with you, and I did say that he needs to think of utility in conjunction with creativity. I wouldn't have told him I liked the unpredictable nature of his set up if it didn't work. But from what I'm seeing of it right now, it does. Yes, most newspapers employ a rather generic, boring design set up. That doesn't mean you can't employ a new design that's still got utility but has a unique solution. God forbid we think outside of the box.

I don't really understand what you're saying about the squares/damage. I know they're visual decoration, and I said that. I didn't say they were bad, I said there's just too much going on. I also told him they don't all fit together well. Abstract squares + stains feels more like grabbing at random effects rather than a cohesive design decision. Sure, you can pat him on the back and tell him "That'd make a great GUI." Or you could try to help him find a way to incorporate his design to what his original intentions were: a newspaper.

Your choice, I guess.

For the writing:

Of course, it'd depend on how serious the person was writing it. Sure you could crank out 100 words of **** in a matter of minutes, but if you're taking it seriously you should get paid to do it.

And I hate to tell you, but coming up with ideas for an article, getting screenshots, doing interviews, etc. blah blah blah would take much more work than tapping A.

Mining can be macro'd.
Stocking can be macro'd.
So essentially, that hard work can be perfectly emulated by someone not even at their computer. Try macro'ing an article. Or an interview. See how far it gets you.
Tapping A while you watch television isn't hard work.
As for trying to compete with other business...The only difference in any of them is prices. AM, GP, or the unstuck me weapon store? Lowest price is all I'd care about. Speedy Pizza, Dippin' Donuts, Dairy Hut...who the **** cares? They all sell the same product, just a different graphic. CTRL+N.
So, in reality, the only thing the owner has to think about is "Should I have a sale, or not?"
That's not much work.
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Price changed to $25,000 since I failed at creating any graphic worth driving in. If I can find someone to make a better one before Friday, I'll change it back.

Also, on the topic of creativity ... yes, it's a newspaper. You're welcome to submit more than one image if you want, but really, we're going to pick the one that fits the newspaper theme the best, not the one that is the "best" graphic-wise (saying "design-wise" would not work, since "design" would take into account the purpose of the layout).
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Only reason why i made Era News a non payable job because they didn't have a pernament system and what we had to do to get things uploaded didn't seem payable at all, this new system Chris is doing maybe's people who submit articles and such will get payed.
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Agh, the colors aren't looking right on some computers. I'm on my mac now and it looks terrible. Well, if there's no winner by tomorrow I think I'll make a new one.
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It's not the computer, it's the color profile you're using. You can change it in System Preferences to one more Windows-like.

Screenshots of Mac look horrible on Windows for the same reason (too blue)
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I actually like that one, but there's a little too much empty space at the top imo
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I actually like that one, but there's a little too much empty space at the top imo
You could do like a small Letters to the Editor thing up there. Want me to try to put something up there?

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@Amsel:
This is a pretty good inital design.

I'm not a huge fan of the SUPER SUPER symmetrical design, but I always tend to gravitate towards balance through asymmetry anyways. Just a personal bias, I suppose.

That being said, there's a few things I'd consider revising/looking at:

Era News logo itself isn't bad, but it'd be cool if the "swoosh" (whatever you want to call it) didn't look like it was hastily drawn in paint. I understand these are just concepts, so yeah, you'd likely fix this if it was chosen before making the final. Just something that throws me off, and it wouldn't take long at all to make some semi-decent looking ones.

Something that's throwing me off is you've got this basically perfect symmetry among the three columns, yet up at the top there's a square and a small rectangle. It feels unbalanced, in a bad way.

I don't get why the picture for column one is spaced so far down, when there's not nearly as much room given for the headline in Article 2. I guess if that's going to be reserved for the main story/biggest headline on each issue, it makes some sense. But there's not much space horizontally, so I'd guess you'd have to keep the font pretty small as it is.

I'd like to see where you'd put other pictures in the article threads, because just one slot in column 1. I think it's with the picture boxes' placement that you might be able to spice up the very predictable design of the column boxes.
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I see a lack of detail in that last one, Amsel.

Your graphics will always be admired, though.
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