Bring back Classic levels and hit detection?

[dmhabe]

Originally Posted by xnervNATx

look , npulse has default hd and i dont see any dam players log to pk !

Your bringing up another server that changed for the worse, NP used to be the hub for pking back in the day. Taking a different step in development ruined the server. Graal is Graal not a different fantasy game no matter what tile set, event, role playing events you incorporate.

[unknown]

wow, just because I play UN apparently now, and left classic behind years ago, ADMINS ON CLASSIC HAVE THE RIGHT TO KICK ME OFF WITH A MESSAGE: walk back to towncenter, its calling you, im sure youre more welcome there.

its obviously the staff who are the downfall and these nazi minded players they have created.

[Remonq]

i didn't disconnect you wtf

[unknown]

Originally Posted by Remonq

i didn't disconnect you wtf

not saying you did, but someone sure did. probably DC because he doesnt like my opinions on his developing. but that doesnt give him the right to do what he did and that def wont get people playing classic again.

wait Dark Cloud just confirmed he did. communist nazi, no wonder classic is dead.

[unknown]

Dark Cloud: UN is a piece of trash.
Me: you should take notes since they are functioning in every department and have an active player count.
Dark Cloud: classic has a community which UN lacks. I only play graal to talk to my friends, it doesnt matter if UN has all of that.
Me: well then go download a chat client.

obviously someone who only cares to use graal as a chat client has no idea what it takes to get players PLAYING there. god...

[Remonq]

well yeah we don't agree. you're going about it all wrong. you can't FORCE your opinions/beliefs onto somebody and get it to work. what you're doing is a waste of time and if you enjoy wasting your time then please, continue

[unknown]

Originally Posted by Remonq

well yeah we don't agree. you're going about it all wrong. you can't FORCE your opinions/beliefs onto somebody and get it to work. what you're doing is a waste of time and if you enjoy wasting your time then please, continue

how am I forcing my beliefs? look at the poll already, NO ONE LIKES THE CURRENT HIT DETECTION.

[unknown]

Dark Clouds reasoning behind not making changes:

"You will all just come here for 10 days and then quit again"

his real reasoning is he keeps stating he doesnt like us because we are from a different server.

Sorry, I would be playing it loyally so shut it.

[DarkCloud_PK]

Thanks for speaking for me, but the main point I've been saying is that a mere HD switch to default is not going to magically save classic. It won't bring any players here, I could turn off the HD we have now for a week and it would be just as dead as it is now.

Don't believe me? I could have it done, but I know the result already, so what's the point.

A default HD wont mask all the other, larger problems that classic faces.
Not to mention you keep forgetting the aspect of community and what a vital role that plays in a successful server.

Let me remind you again, let's go back 5 years, a couple months before the npc server switch, the HD was DEFAULT, the levels were the GTA levels.

What was the player count?
30.
UN was at 200+.

Clearly it's the HD that is the problem, even though it didn't solve anything 5 years ago.

and as for contego blaming storm for starting the whole mess with custom systems and HD. it isn't his fault, it was forced on him to make everything serverside in the sake of security, so Graal Classic wouldn't be the trainer infested zone it was before. If you want to direct your blame on the custom systems of classic being created, divert your blame to stefan, he was the one that made that call.

Edit: Let me dumb down my point in one simple sentence.
Classic was dying long before default HD was removed.

[contego]

Originally Posted by DarkCloud_PK

Thanks for speaking for me, but the main point I've been saying is that a mere HD switch to default is not going to magically save classic. It won't bring any players here, I could turn off the HD we have now for a week and it would be just as dead as it is now.

Don't believe me? I could have it done, but I know the result already, so what's the point.

A default HD wont mask all the other, larger problems that classic faces.
Not to mention you keep forgetting the aspect of community and what a vital role that plays in a successful server.

Let me remind you again, let's go back 5 years, a couple months before the npc server switch, the HD was DEFAULT, the levels were the GTA levels.

What was the player count?
30.
UN was at 200+.

Clearly it's the HD that is the problem, even though it didn't solve anything 5 years ago.

and as for contego blaming storm for starting the whole mess with custom systems and HD. it isn't his fault, it was forced on him to make everything serverside in the sake of security, so Graal Classic wouldn't be the trainer infested zone it was before. If you want to direct your blame on the custom systems of classic being created, divert your blame to stefan, he was the one that made that call.

Edit: Let me dumb down my point in one simple sentence.
Classic was dying long before default HD was removed.

You're right it was dying.
But rather than improve what players wanted such as events and more things to attract the kinds of players you had there; You develop a new HD and a Trading Card Game????? WTF?

[DarkCloud_PK]

Originally Posted by DarkCloud_PK

Classic was dying long before default HD was removed.

Originally Posted by DarkCloud_PK

Classic was dying long before default HD was removed.

Originally Posted by DarkCloud_PK

Classic was dying long before default HD was removed.

Originally Posted by DarkCloud_PK

Classic was dying long before default HD was removed.

Originally Posted by DarkCloud_PK

Classic was dying long before default HD was removed.

Do you get it yet? At all?

[unknown]

Originally Posted by DarkCloud_PK

Do you get it yet? At all?

Dying? No. Lower Playercount. Yes!
It was the hit detection that killed it even more than p2p.

Do you get it?

And if it was dying? why do you still develop there? you obviously dont care if it comes back seeing as you only want to chat and you wont take ideas from players who actually want to come back. stupid nazi dictator

[DarkCloud_PK]

Originally Posted by unknown

Dying? No. Lower Playercount. Yes!
It was the hit detection that killed it even more than p2p.

Do you get it?

And if it was dying? why do you still develop there? you obviously dont care if it comes back seeing as you only want to chat and you wont take ideas from players who actually want to come back. stupid nazi dictator

during the age of P2P to the point where an NPC server was forced on us, changing the HD.
The playercount dropped from 150 to 30, I don't know about you, but thats dying to me.

As for the AIDS patient comment, sure you can give him other diseases, but its still the AIDS thats killing him.

[dmhabe]

Originally Posted by DarkCloud_PK

Do you get it yet? At all?

So if a AIDS patient is dieing you give him another disease....

[unknown]

Originally Posted by dmhabe

So if a AIDS patient is dieing you give him another disease....

LOL very good point/analogy.

even if it was dying DC, why was it dying? not because of p2p, because a whole bunch of classic players still play other servers. They wont play classic why? the same reason they left, crappy hit detection. My mom is a debate teacher, I can call her if you'd like and she can read this whole forum, bet you have no valid points really.