Future ETs?

[Elizabeth]

Originally Posted by doyouskate

that's because you play on un mostly.

mostly, but i do play other servers, including era and zone, and once in a blue moon i'll log on graal kingdoms.

[Donark]

I think a couple of Zone's ets are under 16. Not sure though, I am and I think pimp and shadow are but I might be wrong.

[seanthien]

Originally Posted by Elizabeth

really? because the majority of 12-13 year olds i've met on graal are immature. those over the age of 16 usually are old enough to know better, and have a bit of maturity. sure; people are mature at different rates, but by the time they're 16, their maturity rate is usually greater than the younger ages. i'd rather have an ET hosting an event that was 16 than 13. and yes, there is 12 and 13 year olds that are more mature than 16 year olds, that's why i said,

You can't expel that age group from havng a chance because others that are his age aren't mature. Besides, people can lie about their age, it isn't that hard.

[jkool666]

Originally Posted by Shadow5596321

I still dunno why Jesse would fire all the ETs because they didn't host for what? A week or two?

If Jesse keeps thinking that events will keep Zone alive, it won't.

1. No, you don't know why I fired a few ETs. Lol.
2. LOL @ "A week or two". I'm glad you've checked the logs .
3. Where did you draw this conclusion from? That I think events will keep Zone alive?
Zone is pretty dead at the moment, clearly they don't keep it alive. Events only give the server a temporary playercount boost. SOLID updates are needed for a lengthy playercount boost ;P.

Originally Posted by Elizabeth

really? because the majority of 12-13 year olds i've met on graal are immature.

I second this, and no one can really argue against it. The majority of people worldwide ages 12-13 are immature.

I definetly factor age into becoming an ET. I probably wouldn't hire someone 12, Zone Staff positions require you to deal with PG+13 Language xD.

[Elizabeth]

Originally Posted by seanthien

You can't expel that age group from havng a chance because others that are his age aren't mature. Besides, people can lie about their age, it isn't that hard.

however, the job comes with rights, rights come with responsibility, and responsibility comes with maturity.

i have a feeling this quote is going to be used some more in this thread,

Originally Posted by Elizabeth

unless proven otherwise.

[seanthien]

Originally Posted by jkool666

I second this, and no one can really argue against it. The majority of people worldwide ages 12-13 are immature.

Majority, look at it. It doesn't mean everyone in that age group.

I definetly factor age into becoming an ET. I probably wouldn't hire someone 12,

They lie about it, not a big deal. If they don't act like total *****s you'll never know the difference.

Zone Staff positions require you to deal with PG+13 Language xD

Ya, because by 12 they don't know what the curse words are. I believe I learned how to say the f word at age 3-4. I had to face the corner and a belt twice. I learned it was a bad word to say.

[MiniOne]

Everyone has their own moments in which they may seem immature, look at Jesse's post if I was to read that post only and had never talked to him before, I could have classified him as immature for the use of abbreviations.

As for events boosting the playercount, that's not true, since only players who currently play, will know about the events, therefore maintaining playercount. Updates won't bring in players since future player's wouldn't have any idea about the game, updates will just maintain the playercount. Advertisement as I've said many times will bring up playercount.

Nataxo wasn't the best ET, though she was good. Wasn't she 13?

I knew about PG13+ language when I was nine or younger can't remember and could deal with it perfectly.

[Donark]

SHOLO FOR ET
I think he's 8

[pico57]

Xdddd

[RevolutionJS]

Sas<3

[Ravenblade1979]

I don't think it matters who is ET honestly. Either they are going to be hated or liked.

[noublipasa]

I won the barrel wars event. Then joker took a barrel (while on stafftag) and killed me.
I hate when he does that... he always takes my bounty

[Donark]

Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

I don't think it matters who is ET honestly. Either they are going to be hated or liked.

And everyone wuvs donark<3 >.>

[Nataxo]

Originally Posted by noublipasa

I won the barrel wars event. Then joker took a barrel (while on stafftag) and killed me.
I hate when he does that... he always takes my bounty

thats mean >:[

tell him to stop, that you're a sensible person.

[jkool666]

Originally Posted by jkool666

Zone Staff positions require you to deal with PG+13 Language xD.

I should clarify. I meant by this that Ets receive harassment. And the harassment sometimes gets really out of hand. I think your ability to judge when and when not to use commands also increases with age.

Originally Posted by MiniOne

Everyone has their own moments in which they may seem immature, look at Jesse's post if I was to read that post only and had never talked to him before, I could have classified him as immature for the use of abbreviations.

True, but I think if you ignore the abbreviations in my post and read the majority of it you'd think otherwise.

Originally Posted by MiniOne

As for events boosting the playercount, that's not true,

I'm not sure who said they boost the playercount. I said…

Originally Posted by jkool666

Events only give the server a temporary playercount boost.

Which they've done countless times in the past.

Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

I don't think it matters who is ET honestly. Either they are going to be hated or liked.

It matters to me :P. Depends what their hated for I think.

Originally Posted by seanthien

Majority, look at it. It doesn't mean everyone in that age group.

Who said it did mean everyone in that age group?

Originally Posted by Elizabeth

i have a feeling this quote is going to be used some more in this thread,

I know exactly what you’re saying xD.

Originally Posted by noublipasa

I won the barrel wars event. Then joker took a barrel (while on stafftag) and killed me.
I hate when he does that... he always takes my bounty

These are things you should tell me. I won't get mad at you, I will at him.

[Elizabeth]

Originally Posted by seanthien

Majority, look at it. It doesn't mean everyone in that age group.

majority, which means it's going to be really hard to find someone who's not immature.

Originally Posted by seanthien

They lie about it, not a big deal. If they don't act like total *****s you'll never know the difference.

it's not that often that you find out that your co-worker who had a high level of maturity is actually 12-13.

Originally Posted by seanthien

Ya, because by 12 they don't know what the curse words are.

this game is aimed at 13 year olds & up. it's supposed to be a safe, clean environment. knowing the words or not, let's not encourage their use.

[seanthien]

Originally Posted by Elizabeth

majority, which means it's going to be really hard to find someone who's not immature.

Not realy. Seeing as it's a online game and the playercount is low, it shouldn't be all that hard.

it's not that often that you find out that your co-worker who had a high level of maturity is actually 12-13.

Perhaps people don't tell you? I see it happen to me alot, maybe I just rock.

this game is aimed at 13 year olds & up. it's supposed to be a safe, clean environment. knowing the words or not, let's not encourage their use.

Ya, because that's gonna stop people from using them. Besides, last I checked PG 13 does allow some bad language and such.

[Shadow5596321]

Originally Posted by Elizabeth

this game is aimed at 13 year olds & up. it's supposed to be a safe, clean environment. knowing the words or not, let's not encourage their use.

Lemme introduce you to Xbox Live...

[MiniOne]

Jkool

Originally Posted by jkool666
Events only give the server a temporary playercount boost.

Playercount boost, which they don't do, they just merely give enjoyment to the current players of zone. Future players wouldn't have heard about the 2d game engine known as graal. I'm pretty sure that people under the age of 13 are influenced by tv shows whom use PG 13+ language, so I'm quite sure everyone has had experiences with swear words and etc.

I'd just like to state that a boost in playercount means players whom aren't currently involved in the game, whilst you've said its done it many times before, I don't believe I see new players joining events, rather the current players who play.

What do you declare as being mature Jesse?

[Elizabeth]

Originally Posted by seanthien

Not realy. Seeing as it's a online game and the playercount is low, it shouldn't be all that hard.

with a low playercount, it means that the chances are smaller.

Originally Posted by seanthien

Ya, because that's gonna stop people from using them. Besides, last I checked PG 13 does allow some bad language and such.

once again, stopping them or not, let's not encourage their use.

[Donark]

Originally Posted by MiniOne

What do you declare as being mature Jesse?

Probably someone who won't abuse, knows how to host, and just ignores when a player is harassing them.

[Ravenblade1979]

@Jesse: We all know that a ET could be liked at the start then do something wrong once then are hated for the rest of the time they host.

[seanthien]

Originally Posted by Elizabeth

with a low playercount, it means that the chances are smaller.

Erm..Are you slow, or did you just not learn math? The majority of players aren't mature, so that means with a smaller playercount it should be easier to find that minority of people that are mature. Let me explain it to you this way. Finding a blind man in a group of 10 is easier then finding him in a group of a million.

Originally Posted by Donark

Probably someone who won't abuse, knows how to host, and just ignores when a player is harassing them.

That's such a answer I'd expect from you. That's not something you can figure out so easily. I'm not sure how, but I grade maturity differently, because imo there is no way you can judge them by that.

Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

@Jesse: We all know that a ET could be liked at the start then do something wrong once then are hated for the rest of the time they host.

I'm guessing this is about you. Well, you did a BIG wrong. No offense, but you tried too hard and over reacted alot. You never realy knew how zone was like, so you did unnecessary actions that screwed us all over. Atleast in my opinion.

[Elizabeth]

Originally Posted by seanthien

Erm..Are you slow, or did you just not learn math? The majority of players aren't mature, so that means with a smaller playercount it should be easier to find that minority of people that are mature. Let me explain it to you this way. Finding a blind man in a group of 10 is easier then finding him in a group of a million.

let's say that there are 8 people in the room, and scientists have proven that 'one in every two people like cake', so at the moment, four people like cake.
four people leave, and of course, 'one in every two people like cake', two out of the four people like cake.


the same thing works for mature kids, you cut the playercount in half, the percentages cut in half. i don't know what the percentages are, but with the immature children population reigning over the mature population, the chances are going to be very slim with a small amount of people.

[Donark]

Originally Posted by seanthien

That's such a answer I'd expect from you. That's not something you can figure out so easily. I'm not sure how, but I grade maturity differently, because imo there is no way you can judge them by that.

Well how would YOU judge maturity?

[RealDDc]

Originally Posted by seanthien

Erm..Are you slow, or did you just not learn math? The majority of players aren't mature, so that means with a smaller playercount it should be easier...)

Originally Posted by Elizabeth

let's say that there are 8 people in the room, and scientists have proven that 'one in every two people like cake'...)

Mathematically the proportional chances are equal, if the denominator and numerator diminish identically. But what the heck?

[Elizabeth]

Originally Posted by dennis1410

But what the heck?

it's just an example

[RealDDc]

Originally Posted by Elizabeth

it's just an example

Well the chances stay the same either way, mathematically. But mathematics won't help on the threads topic, neither to mature the playerbase nor to increase the playercount.

[jkool666]

MiniOne

Originally Posted by MiniOne

I'd just like to state that a boost in playercount means players whom aren't currently involved in the game, whilst you've said its done it many times before, I don't believe I see new players joining events, rather the current players who play.

1. "Temporary Playercount Boost"
2. In my opinion "Temporary Playercount Boost" means players that log on for a period of time, perhaps the length of an event or series of events perhaps? Then log off immediately after that.

Originally Posted by MiniOne

What do you declare as being mature Jesse?

Someone who doesn't act like an idiot all the time.

[Shadow5596321]

Originally Posted by jkool666

Someone who doesn't act like an idiot all the time.

What makes you so different from the rest of these newbs? I'm pretty sure I can go back into your past and find some stupid stuff that happened over a few days.

Don't even try saying "Your retarded" because we smell our own.

[MiniOne]

Originally Posted by jkool666

MiniOne

1. "Temporary Playercount Boost"
2. In my opinion "Temporary Playercount Boost" means players that log on for a period of time, perhaps the length of an event or series of events perhaps? Then log off immediately after that.


Someone who doesn't act like an idiot all the time.

I doubt that truly happens much, we don't get a playercount boost, we just have some players log on to lame, we both know this is true, though I will say that some events do bring in older players which is nice but only events such as your 2 v 2 spar, deathmatch events and older events (not like snowrace)

Someone who doesn't act like an idiot all the time? That could mean a six year old could be mature, since they may be shy and not talk and muck around much.
When someone matures they develop a more fully developed personality and emotional behavior, also maturity is also a way of describing the development of the body, therefore both of those show that maturity isn't shown at a certain age, it varies from person to person, some mature young, some mature old and some don't mature for a long time. Remember that girl who started to mature at the age of eight? That just shows that you can mature at any age.

[jkool666]

Originally Posted by Shadow5596321

What makes you so different from the rest of these newbs? I'm pretty sure I can go back into your past and find some stupid stuff that happened over a few days.

Whats your point? I was less mature when I was younger? Lol. I thought thats what I was saying?
And I was mature in certain ways. I was always very mature with my rights, especially /giveitem.

Originally Posted by MiniOne

I doubt that truly happens much, we don't get a playercount boost,

You can doubt it all you want, regardless it still happened many times in the past. I think I've been online for a few more events then you have ;P.
I'm talking like, quite a while ago, longer then 4 months ;P.

Originally Posted by MiniOne

That just shows that you can mature at any age.

Who said that people couldn't?

[Shadow5596321]

Originally Posted by jkool666

Whats your point? I was less mature when I was younger? Lol. I thought thats what I was saying?
And I was mature in certain ways. I was always very mature with my rights, especially /giveitem.

My point is maybe they just need a chance. And no one is talking about your rights so you can shut up about that.

[seanthien]

Originally Posted by jkool666

Who said that people couldn't?

I second this, and no one can really argue against it. The majority of people worldwide ages 12-13 are immature.

That kind of implied that people mature at the same rate. Then again, since it's not directly stated it doesn't mean anything.

Originally Posted by Shadow5596321

My point is maybe they just need a chance

Honestly, I never though SN would do a great job like he's doing now. I'm pretty sure I've said it before too.

[MiniOne]

Originally Posted by jkool666

You can doubt it all you want, regardless it still happened many times in the past. I think I've been online for a few more events then you have ;P.
I'm talking like, quite a while ago, longer then 4 months ;P.


Who said that people couldn't?

You generalized an age group saying that 12 - 13 year old young adults are immature, though I understand that you said majority, that doesn't mean you shouldn't hire them for ET.

That was 4 months ago, lets say three years ago, remember the temporarily playercount boost then? Much greater then now but as you can see now playercount seems to be dropping, I just saw that GK had more players then Zone, that's like WOW! It rarely happens.

[seanthien]

Originally Posted by MiniOne

You generalized an age group saying that 12 - 13 year old young adults are immature, though I understand that you said majority, that doesn't mean you shouldn't hire them for ET.

That was 4 months ago, lets say three years ago, remember the temporarily playercount boost then? Much greater then now but as you can see now playercount seems to be dropping, I just saw that GK had more players then Zone, that's like WOW! It rarely happens.

GK>Zone, i'm glad it happened.

[MiniOne]

Originally Posted by seanthien

GK>Zone, i'm glad it happened.

I'm not I've always liked Zone more, but this shows that we're doing something wrong, since GK has always been chasing after Zone's playercount.

[jkool666]

Originally Posted by Shadow5596321

My point is maybe they

Who is "they". Please give a specific answer.

Originally Posted by seanthien

That kind of implied that people mature at the same rate.

The majority of people do mature at very similar rates.

Originally Posted by MiniOne

You generalized an age group saying that 12 - 13 year old young adults are immature

Okay so…

Originally Posted by MiniOne

though I understand that you said majority

I’m really confused. Are you sure that you understand I said majority?

Originally Posted by MiniOne

remember the temporarily playercount boost then?

What the hell? Weren’t you just trying to tell me that events DIDN’T give a temporary playercount boost?

[MiniOne]

Originally Posted by jkool666

Who is "they". Please give a specific answer.


The majority of people do mature at very similar rates.


Okay so…

I’m really confused. Are you sure that you understand I said majority?


What the hell? Weren’t you just trying to tell me that events DIDN’T give a temporary playercount boost?

Ya I sorta lost my point, I was saying that I understood what you meant, though the playercount boost isn't great now, compared to before.

Sorry forgot what I was going on about.

[Shadow5596321]

Originally Posted by jkool666

Who is "they". Please give a specific answer.

Don't ask questions you know the answer to.