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Old 03-26-2009, 11:54 AM
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This is backup, rather than screwing someone over completely or throwing the "We're not going to do anything at all" ball at you. Storm is not incapable of fulfilling his duties, though he may need support where possible. Thor is a seriously large, important part of that support.
If support were the case you would've made him Asst. Manager instead of giving him equal say to Storm. Thor has final say, but so does Storm. That shouldn't be the way it is.

Don't downplay what this really is. It's insulting.
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Old 03-26-2009, 01:00 PM
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If support were the case you would've made him Asst. Manager instead of giving him equal say to Storm. Thor has final say, but so does Storm. That shouldn't be the way it is.

Don't downplay what this really is. It's insulting.
I'm not downplaying anything. I agree that one should be able to override the other, but that doesn't mean the view is shared by everyone. I am not ashamed to even share my final post on the topic in the Global Forum:

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Any decision that involves his movement or removal from the Managers position is going to attract fits, but I do see where ______ [omitted to avoid targeted finger pointing] is coming from. He stays there = fit's, too. I, too, am not entirely thrilled about demoting Storm, but he'd have to understand that it's not a removal from the overall ManageMENT. They have their differences, but I don't see it getting TOO out of hand if Thor were to join Storm in this form, and I doubt Thor would be heartless enough to exercise his immediate right to remove Storm and appoint another Co-Manager.

I think what we have to keep in mind is that there is going to be fits no matter what we decide, but the level of fit differs from choice to choice. Storm fits, or another 4 years of fits because we did nothing? At least he's not losing total control, and if he can handle that, great.

I'm okay with the suggestion, not thrilled, but I can see it's benefits.
It doesn't bother me that the posts following mine lead to the others discussing a direct "joint manager" position rather than a Manager/Co-Manager duo leading to that becoming the official announcement, though.


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To be perfectly clear; I don't really understand how 3 admins who haven't played the server in the last 5 years (or more) can just come along and conclude such a vital decision that could've removed it from stagnation;
We were called in by you, yourselves. Not all of you, I'm not even pointing you out, either, Kill. But the PWA didn't just walk in unannounced or uninvited.
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Old 03-26-2009, 01:07 PM
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I'm not downplaying anything. I agree that one should be able to override the other, but that doesn't mean the view is shared by everyone. I am not ashamed to even share my final post on the topic in the Global Forum:



It doesn't bother me that the posts following mine lead to the others discussing a direct "joint manager" position rather than a Manager/Co-Manager duo leading to that becoming the official announcement, though.




We were called in by you, yourselves. Not all of you, I'm not even pointing you out, either, Kill. But the PWA didn't just walk in unannounced or uninvited.

Kill is saying that you should stick to your gas producing bullet flying noob era server and leave us the heck alone
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Old 03-26-2009, 01:21 PM
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Kill is saying that you should stick to your gas producing bullet flying noob era server and leave us the heck alone
Do you honestly think saying this is productive? ...
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Do you honestly think saying this is productive? ...
I'm sure he's just expressing and focusing his frustration on my past. Sure, I may not get on Classic, specifically, and spend 18 hours of my day getting to know the people there, but null that detail, it does not mean I am directly positioning myself solely on Era. I get around, I can assure him that, and I'm sure the people on Zodaic, Val, UN, etc can vouch for my random, off-duty, friendly "Hello"s.
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