4 Years of being stagnant

[MysticX2X]

Alright, so I'm going to give my own point of view. I hope some people will actually read this.

While Storm is Manager, terribly being one as well, he can't do much to save it now. There is also not much changes you can without straying from the Classic perspective. I have told Master Storm he should probably quit if this many people are actually having serious problems with his management. He still believes he has a responsibility towards that server although nobody is asking him to have one. I will agree with him on that he can't pleasure everybody, but then again, who is he pleasuring? EDIT: I will vouch for Storm when i say he is one of the more willing managers to talk to players on Classic. Unlike any UN Manager, even the current one, who has just made me loathe UN more and more.

I also asked him about the server going UC idea, but he said that wouldn't be a good idea as well, which i can sort of agree with because of the fact nothing is happening on Classic now, and going UC would only reduce the will power of the current staff. Era's going UC and coming back was successful though so who knows, but that was back then when there were more developers. People making the argument that players shouldn't have to have the thought of trying to contribute? This game was created based around the fact that it is all player created. Everyone in this thread could contribute something to the server, if you have this much time to complain.

Yeah some things would happen with a new manager, but not much to preserve Classic. How many of you people would complain if some dramatic change happened to Classic that resulted in an old level being removed? You'd be furious even though it could be for the greater good. A **** load of people complained when Burger refuge was removed for an ice ring though that level was weird anyways. I tried suggesting a remake over of Supernicks to suit a centralized spar in Graal city since the more vital locations should be in the hot spot city, while quests and player created levels should be on the outskirts. Storm shot the idea down saying only Supernick can touch that place, which Supernick doesn't care for. I do agree for more quests, and thought about creating levels for that too,

People talk about how Graal the Adventure was so great and better and they would want that back. Yeah it was great back then, but ALL of graal was. I mentioned that in another thread.There is no surefire guarantee that Classic would even get more dedicated players if they commit to a project like GTA now. I used to love UN back then. It has a bulk of the same content it had for years, but the community fell to shreds. (Edit: Lol the whole UN line was cut out somehow) In reality, there would be thousands of levels you'd have to convert. There are a lot of people with scripting capabilities in this thread and past who are complaining about having the old content back. Why not just take a try at it yourself? I have actually talked to Storm about anybody converting the entire old content, and he said he would consider it if someone would actually present that to him. In reality, no one would want to commit their time to that and it's not virtually possible without losing interest. It's not even an idea the dev team should try focusing on since those things are in the past, and future actions should be thought about. Ziplock had some really cool ideas for Classic, with which he shared some with me,, but I don't know if he has enough will power to go on with it.

As for the other admin issue, some measures should be taken as to that. Stryker was on the verge of being removed, he comes back, hires a few GP's, then disappears again making faint appearances. Half his team isn't active, nor has logged on Classic in the past month. HELL, one of his GP's manages Era logging on Classic once every month. Staff dedication mirite?

Night, on the other hand of being a respectable and one of the only liked Admins, rarely logs on Classic. Hell, he doesn't even know who his active GC's are anymore. There are about 10 GC's including Night, and half of them haven't even logged on tag in the past month. I understand this whole people having a life thing, but usually that indicates some have to go.

I find it funny how Oni is complaining so much about Classic when he is a GC who is capable of helping the effort. He doesn't like to acknowledge himself as a GC, but he certainly hasn't came to Night that he wants to quit so Night finally figures out the GC team is suffering. Yes, events are a very important thing to Classic considering that's Classic's backbone right now for anyone's enjoyment. Classic actually averaged 20 ( Even hit a high of 33 people) people today just because the few active GC's were giving some enjoyment to people. Right now, the HD is killing that enjoyment, but serverside HD was more of an inconvenience for us American players. I actually would prefer this over the serverside HD so long as I don't get hit from 20 tiles away by european players. No HD will satisfy anybody tbh. As for people complaining about the HD, default would be even harder for you guys in events such as CTF since you all are accustomed to the s-bash tecnique, and then you would ***** again.

Most of the people here complaining gave up on Classic, and play servers like Era now instead of giving their hand to the relief effort of any sort. Xaphan, you are a GP. You have an RC on Classic. You are capable of handing suggestive ideas via RC to the active dev team as well as give critiques as well since you possess oh so much envy towards the players concerns. Hell you can even start doing your job on Classic.

I also love it how particularly you guys have to single out Thor here. While i usually don't agree with him on some stuff, he is actually doing something for Classic whether it be good or bad, rather than complaining. Rufus, maybe you of all people should be a little more considerate for his work? You don't have to like it, but you should at least acknowledge it's different from the initiative any other Dev on Classic is trying to do. People were complaining about serverside HD. He took his time to make a new one, although perfect yet people still are complaining, even giving up his advantage over the more populated American players. I thought the map idea was actually a good one, though not a dramatic change.

I'm just very tired of seeing player such as Kill and Laura complain about every thing, yet do nothing to help the effort, and instead go and play Era or try to sabotage a GC's events creating a burden on the GC team. They have done it to me several times now.

Wow, that was long.

[StrykerTFFD]

Originally Posted by MysticX2X

As for the other admin issue, some measures should be taken as to that. Stryker was on the verge of being removed, he comes back, hires a few GP's, then disappears again making faint appearances. Half his team isn't active, nor has logged on Classic in the past month. HELL, one of his GP's manages Era logging on Classic once every month. Staff dedication mirite?

This is the usual post to show you I am paying attention and I already know. Hiring new GPs is a second thought to fixing the player count since I can't really hire without players. I even read somewhere about not banning hackers right away since they boost our player count...that's just silly to me but true.

I did enjoy seeing our player count at 30+ today though. If that was the norm then I could probably hire some GPs out of that player pool.

As for everything else said in the thread I won't openly express my views. Feel free to ask me in private.

[Crimson2005]

Originally Posted by MysticX2X

Xaphan, you are a GP. You have an RC on Classic. You are capable of handing suggestive ideas via RC to the active dev team as well as give critiques as well since you possess oh so much envy towards the players concerns. Hell you can even start doing your job on Classic.

Hmm, maybe if there was a playercount to actually police I'd do something. However, seeing as it has an average playercount of 10, with those 5 of those being staff and the other 5 is their RCs, I really think it's not worth quite worth it.

I may be a GP but at the same time I want to play the game and have fun. I can't do this right now, infact, a lot of people can't as they feel that they have to develop to have fun. What kind of state is that? Paying to develop someone elses game so yourself can have something to do. No thanks.

Originally Posted by StrykerTFFD

I did enjoy seeing our player count at 30+ today though. If that was the norm then I could probably hire some GPs out of that player pool.

Doubt you'd need to as myself and Shimmy would probably come back from playing UN.

[Rufus]

holy nerd rufus.

Originally Posted by MysticX2X

There is also not much changes you can without straying from the Classic perspective.

I don't get what you mean here, care to elaborate?

Originally Posted by MysticX2X

I also asked him about the server going UC idea, but he said that wouldn't be a good idea as well, which i can sort of agree with because of the fact nothing is happening on Classic now, and going UC would only reduce the will power of the current staff.

How would going under construction "reduce the will power" of the staff if it isn't there currently? Players attitudes are a large part of what kills the motivation of staff, and it has been like this for years. A lack of playercount creates a sense of wasted time in producing content. Going hidden would remove distractions, you don't have to entertain players, and you don't have to constantly develop short term where the focus should be long term content. You're not battling against two forms of development, therefore the direction should be clear and quality work should surface as you have more time to consider how it would be received, rather than just releasing it straight away as the players are bored and complaining again.

I don't really see how it is fair to the server itself in keeping it up if you don't believe that if you took it down, it would come back with no problems through the quality of your own content. If that was the case and the content is not suitable for a revival, the content should never be released to the public.

Originally Posted by MysticX2X

People making the argument that players shouldn't have to have the thought of trying to contribute? This game was created based around the fact that it is all player created. Everyone in this thread could contribute something to the server, if you have this much time to complain.

No, the game was created in a way that you could contribute if you wanted to. In Graal The Adventure you did not have to contribute to development in order to enjoy the game that you paid for. The Classic tab servers are not advertised as a development platform, they're advertised as game servers and like Dusty and myself have already said, should be treated as such. Not everyone in this thread has the ability nor willingness to contribute under current circumstances, and they shouldn't have to either, but that doesn't mean that they can't voice their opinions on the bad direction that the current circumstances are under.

Originally Posted by MysticX2X

Yeah some things would happen with a new manager, but not much to preserve Classic. How many of you people would complain if some dramatic change happened to Classic that resulted in an old level being removed? You'd be furious even though it could be for the greater good. A **** load of people complained when Burger refuge was removed for an ice ring though that level was weird anyways. I tried suggesting a remake over of Supernicks to suit a centralized spar in Graal city since the more vital locations should be in the hot spot city, while quests and player created levels should be on the outskirts. Storm shot the idea down saying only Supernick can touch that place, which Supernick doesn't care for. I do agree for more quests, and thought about creating levels for that too.

That's what happens when you listen to the older players too much and develop your content based upon their opinions. While these players only turn up once every few months, the actual players of the server get ignored. There needs to be a happy medium, but in order to do that you need developers that understand what that happy medium is. Releasing a "Love" NPC for Valentines day, because it was old content, is not a happy medium. Releasing Bowling without any changes, because it was old content, is not a happy medium. The reactions show, the content is wasted.

Originally Posted by MysticX2X

I find it funny how Oni is complaining so much about Classic when he is a GC who is capable of helping the effort. He doesn't like to acknowledge himself as a GC, but he certainly hasn't came to Night that he wants to quit so Night finally figures out the GC team is suffering. Yes, events are a very important thing to Classic considering that's Classic's backbone right now for anyone's enjoyment. Classic actually averaged 20 ( Even hit a high of 33 people) people today just because the few active GC's were giving some enjoyment to people.

There's only so much that the Game Coordinator team can do. When you're battling against bad development decisions, how do you expect to retain players through your events? As players as well as volunteering staff, how do you expect people to even log on?

Originally Posted by MysticX2X

Right now, the HD is killing that enjoyment, but serverside HD was more of an inconvenience for us American players. I actually would prefer this over the serverside HD so long as I don't get hit from 20 tiles away by european players. No HD will satisfy anybody tbh. As for people complaining about the HD, default would be even harder for you guys in events such as CTF since you all are accustomed to the s-bash tecnique, and then you would ***** again.

Oh right so when the server was based in the US it wasn't an inconvenience for European players? Well actually, it wasn't because we still sparred, PK'd and played events no problem. I was able to hold my own quite easily when the server was in the US, so why can't Americans now? If the server was in the US (which no one actually attempted to directly get back other than myself) then nobody would be complaining. Instead we were lumbered with a horrible hit detection, great attempt.

Originally Posted by MysticX2X

You have an RC on Classic. You are capable of handing suggestive ideas via RC to the active dev team as well as give critiques as well since you possess oh so much envy towards the players concerns. Hell you can even start doing your job on Classic.

That is not true at all. As players it is impossible to get ideas thrown in, people have tried. As staff it is the same way, and I know of a couple of developers who have had and some who still have this issue. It's not as simple as "you've got RC so go influence some things" because you don't need RC to voice your opinion, and you certainly shouldn't need to be staff. Aside from that though, what the hell is "envy towards the players concerns" about?

Originally Posted by MysticX2X

I also love it how particularly you guys have to single out Thor here. While i usually don't agree with him on some stuff, he is actually doing something for Classic whether it be good or bad, rather than complaining. Rufus, maybe you of all people should be a little more considerate for his work? You don't have to like it, but you should at least acknowledge it's different from the initiative any other Dev on Classic is trying to do. People were complaining about serverside HD. He took his time to make a new one, although perfect yet people still are complaining, even giving up his advantage over the more populated American players. I thought the map idea was actually a good one, though not a dramatic change.

Good content? Bad content? Who cares at least it's content right? What a stupid thing to say. Players on Classic have such low expectations of what the server could be and what potential it has. I honestly don't understand how people can say "he's trying his best" and similar comments and play for that reason. I don't play on games because the developer was trying his best when he made it, to then have a terrible game with terrible features that don't appeal to me at all. I play games because the developer tried his best and released a great end product that was fun and focused on what I wanted. That's generally the logic as to why anyone plays a game, so I don't see why the players of Classic have this watered down view of what the server can be like, but it is completely useless and gets the server nowhere.

[MysticX2X]

Originally Posted by Rufus

holy nerd rufus.
I don't get what you mean here, care to elaborate?

Such as my supernicks changing idea. Supernick told me once that he created that place in 2000, and redid it in 2004 where tons of people complained about it. Supernicks being redone as a functioning spar place could be vital towards a close compact city, but would it fly with people? Particularly the oldbies who staff cater the most for. That's why they don't touch that useless place, which many things can be done for.

post about going UC

Classic does have a dev server, you know. It's where Master Storm usually creates his "systems" but if there was a need to do UC work, that's the place without any player distraction. And that server is Classic enabled. Player distraction isn't even the problem. The problem is if things can be done. Classic's current team is weak, and will power is being lost. There is no surefire Classic would even return if undergone UC. You might say that would be okay as long as Classic doesn't have to be in misery, but there are still some people who enjoy Classic and would miss it. It's also sad to see a server whom people worked so hard making content for just go like that. At the very least, if PWA cared, they would monitor what Storm is doing. Era had a very successful UC state and coming back to Classic Tab with a large amount of players. I do recall however, Graal2001 being off the list when i first came to Graal, seeing it come back and instantly dying again. As for losing will power, it's a general theory of mine. I just think most of the staff like to work on a somewhat frequented server and not UC servers, unless they're severely loyal staff. That's why you see Classic barely getting staff, and UN getting staff, and it would only hurt Classic more if they go UC.

post about content creation

Rofl, then tell me, who should be developing the content? Graal management? They haven't helped for as long as i can remember. You guys are singling out people who are just like you, but making a developmental effort. The real people you should be furious at in regards to this point is the Graal management. Not Classic Staff

That's what happens when you listen to the older players too much and develop your content based upon their opinions. While these players only turn up once every few months, the actual players of the server get ignored. There needs to be a happy medium, but in order to do that you need developers that understand what that happy medium is. Releasing a "Love" NPC for Valentines day, because it was old content, is not a happy medium. Releasing Bowling without any changes, because it was old content, is not a happy medium. The reactions show, the content is wasted.

Agreed pretty much. Love NPC would be okay if it would have any more affect than putting hearts around somebody. It isn't too much of a liability to the server anyways, but not a very useful addition.

post about GC

Right now, the only thing affecting events is the HD. Many players were dissatisfied with the previous serverside HD, and other players wouldn't dare to come on this server just because they did not like that HD at all. Even the current one was being constantly complained about. Events create player enjoyment, and events don't always have to rely on slashing your sword. But with our GC Admin being inactive, there's not much to do for the events future. I have spoken to Night and he has actually told me he is going to try and get more active so that's a positive hope towards the GC future.

post about serverside HD

Well that problem has been disestablished now, hasn't it? We have a clientside HD, which only receives damage based on if the player is hit on his/her own screen. People complained about both HD's and apparently adding the default HD in isn't as easy as it sounds.

Moving Classic to Europe was the worst move you could make in regards to player enjoyment since a bulk of the players come from the US.

I do recall their being a poll for clientside HD and everyone wanted it. It was even tested in several events and locations where people were still okay with it. Blame the players a little? It's what they wanted.

post about xaphans RC

So you are saying having RC doesn't have it's own benefits? RC is where most developers actually discuss plans/projects. Anyone with RC could throw in their fair share of criticism. And what i mean by "envy towards the players concerns" is exactly what that sentence means. Xaphan seems to agree with most of the players, and is a Staff member with RC. I know this thread was created on the reaction of players from the Monthly Spar.

Yeah players can voice their opinion. PM Master Storm, and tell him. You probably won't see action but that's the best way to voice your opinion for right now. I guess if you can emphasize your idea very brilliantly might he consider it.

Post about Thor

Well I don't recall him releasing terrible content. The HD issue is being looked at and being dealt with though. That is the only addition which might of created a negative effect on the server, but I've explained the HD issue in several other points so yeah. Bowling wasn't great, but it's always something to do on the side. The Map addition was good, and clearly has no downside rather than not being a priority right now. Right now, the Staff team is trying their best to suit the player needs. Most of the decisions made were off what the player thought on polls.

@Stryker: Maybe you should see who are some of your active GP's first. Eillen, Deo, and E26 haven't tagged up in a good month plus. GP's and FAQ's should be the two non development positions to have their staff actively tag up regardless of playercount. I was talking to Ranger about ensuring his team's activity and he told me he checks to see if his FAQ's do tag up on a consistent basis. The reason the GP and GC team falls is because of the lack of ensuring activity.

GP's dont have to do anything more than tag up, wait for player complaints, help clean up any harassment/inappropriateness on the overworld, and clean up masses. As ranger said, a low playercount doesn't justify low GP Count. GP's are always needed and I can't believe the amount of harassment/hacking that actually goes on at some points. Mind you I'm not telling you how to do your job, but showing you that GP's are not dependent off playercount.

@Xaphan: Some of the stuff if just said up above counts here too. As for your players have to develop to create content idea, that's always how Graal has been. Classic has a development team releasing things from time to time, whether it be slow or not. They are not a big team right now, but still work towards getting things done.

I think the suggestion to help Classic if you want to see more content out there was aimed at if you're impatient and want something now, or otherwise wait. Or if you want to take a shot at doing some of the things you would like to do.

[Rufus]

Originally Posted by MysticX2X

Such as my supernicks changing idea. Supernick told me once that he created that place in 2000, and redid it in 2004 where tons of people complained about it. Supernicks being redone as a functioning spar place could be vital towards a close compact city, but would it fly with people? Particularly the oldbies who staff cater the most for. That's why they don't touch that useless place, which many things can be done for.

That's the staff attitude, not a "Classic" perspective.

Originally Posted by MysticX2X

Classic does have a dev server, you know. It's where Master Storm usually creates his "systems" but if there was a need to do UC work, that's the place without any player distraction. And that server is Classic enabled. Player distraction isn't even the problem. The problem is if things can be done. Classic's current team is weak, and will power is being lost. There is no surefire Classic would even return if undergone UC. You might say that would be okay as long as Classic doesn't have to be in misery, but there are still some people who enjoy Classic and would miss it. It's also sad to see a server whom people worked so hard making content for just go like that. At the very least, if PWA cared, they would monitor what Storm is doing. Era had a very successful UC state and coming back to Classic Tab with a large amount of players. I do recall however, Graal2001 being off the list when i first came to Graal, seeing it come back and instantly dying again. As for losing will power, it's a general theory of mine. I just think most of the staff like to work on a somewhat frequented server and not UC servers, unless they're severely loyal staff. That's why you see Classic barely getting staff, and UN getting staff, and it would only hurt Classic more if they go UC.

The systems Master Storm are developing are pretty much offering what is already on the server in terms of game mechanics. Master Storm's systems are arguably better in structure, but essentially it offers nothing new. I disagree with the notion that if the server is removed it couldn't promote interest, because when Konidias took over Graal2001 after it flopped again he hyped the server as much as he could, and he built up an interest for it through the content that he showed. The few developers we have left in the community like feeling as though they are working on a promising project and at current Classic isn't very promising. If the content is hyped and the hype matches the quality of the server overall, a revival is very possible and the server could be better than ever. If the server continues as it is, don't you think that it is less likely for a good revival in the future?

Originally Posted by MysticX2X

Well that problem has been disestablished now, hasn't it? We have a clientside HD, which only receives damage based on if the player is hit on his/her own screen. People complained about both HD's and apparently adding the default HD in isn't as easy as it sounds.

No, it has caused even more problems.

Originally Posted by MysticX2X

I do recall their being a poll for clientside HD and everyone wanted it. It was even tested in several events and locations where people were still okay with it. Blame the players a little? It's what they wanted.

Polling is rarely helpful in the development of a server which has little development to begin with. When I'm on my Wii and glance over at the "Everyone Votes Channel" I can go on it, vote for my opinion and predict what others are going to say. I don't feel as though I am obligated to vote for something in order to get new content, and that is how most people do feel on Classic. The polls that we get on Classic are extremely manipulative, because they play on what the players feel like they need, but don't actually produce what they do need. MoD fort for was ruined because of the opinion polls and no one has used it since. This new poll is asking players to choose which one they want -- why can't they subsequently release all of them over time? It's because if the content turns out awful, the player voted for it and the players are used as scapegoats when essentially all they ever want is something new.

Originally Posted by MysticX2X

RC is where most developers actually discuss plans/projects. Anyone with RC could throw in their fair share of criticism. And what i mean by "envy towards the players concerns" is exactly what that sentence means. Xaphan seems to agree with most of the players, and is a Staff member with RC. I know this thread was created on the reaction of players from the Monthly Spar. Yeah players can voice their opinion. PM Master Storm, and tell him. You probably won't see action but that's the best way to voice your opinion for right now. I guess if you can emphasize your idea very brilliantly might he consider it.

Haha how condescending, you're acting as though I'm unaware of what goes on and I'm unaware of how Master Storm acts. What you said is really not true. I guess for the developers you'll have to ask them personally as I'm not going to go naming names, but you're talking in an ideal sense instead of the actual reality. I don't see how posting on a forum is not better than speaking to Master Storm directly to receive nothing from speaking to him. In fact, posting on this forum has made him get off his ass quite a lot of times, where simple discussions with him have not, well, unless you're threatening him.

Originally Posted by MysticX2X

Well I don't recall him releasing terrible content. The HD issue is being looked at and being dealt with though. That is the only addition which might of created a negative effect on the server, but I've explained the HD issue in several other points so yeah. Bowling wasn't great, but it's always something to do on the side. The Map addition was good, and clearly has no downside rather than not being a priority right now. Right now, the Staff team is trying their best to suit the player needs. Most of the decisions made were off what the player thought on polls.

Originally Posted by Rufus

In a server revival quality is paramount, especially if the content is not particularly unique.

Originally Posted by Rufus

First impressions are everything, and as this current playerbase isn't all too familiar with the old content, most of the re-releases are new releases. Players are not going to feel the same sense of joy, hype, gratitude, fondness (and all those other positive feelings you get when you play on a decent game you've been waiting for) to a "better" re-release of a re-release further down the line, so these initial releases need to be of quality. More importantly we need longevity in content, so a delay in a release is totally worth it as long as the product has a more professional finish to it when it finally does release.

[MysticX2X]

Originally Posted by Rufus

That's the staff attitude, not a "Classic" perspective.

I'm not sure. I just think people think of Supernicks as a Classic place.

The systems Master Storm are developing are pretty much offering what is already on the server in terms of game mechanics. Master Storm's systems are arguably better in structure, but essentially it offers nothing new. I disagree with the notion that if the server is removed it couldn't promote interest, because when Konidias took over Graal2001 after it flopped again he hyped the server as much as he could, and he built up an interest for it through the content that he showed. The few developers we have left in the community like feeling as though they are working on a promising project and at current Classic isn't very promising. If the content is hyped and the hype matches the quality of the server overall, a revival is very possible and the server could be better than ever. If the server continues as it is, don't you think that it is less likely for a good revival in the future?

I'm not even sure if Master Storm's systems on there are meant for Classic. He was making a new HD in regards to Classic, but then Clientside was released so i don't know what he's doing with it now. Konidias hyped up Graal2001 in 2006, where there were more developers. Since more people wanted to see Graal2001 come back, they helped him. But now it's 2009 and you guys can get a very few limited developers, as well as any server. Even comes to the point where many are multistaffing because they have to. Classic is in the same boat, especially when they rarely hire people with no scripting or graphic ability. You're right if they could hype it up, it could come back as something good, but I don't think they'll be able to even do it.

No, it has caused even more problems.

It just came out, nobody will get instantly good at it. It's kind of a bad HD, I'll agree with that though. But not so much on having serverside back.

Polling is rarely helpful in the development of a server which has little development to begin with. When I'm on my Wii and glance over at the "Everyone Votes Channel" I can go on it, vote for my opinion and predict what others are going to say. I don't feel as though I am obligated to vote for something in order to get new content, and that is how most people do feel on Classic. The polls that we get on Classic are extremely manipulative, because they play on what the players feel like they need, but don't actually produce what they do need. MoD fort for was ruined because of the opinion polls and no one has used it since. This new poll is asking players to choose which one they want -- why can't they subsequently release all of them over time? It's because if the content turns out awful, the player voted for it and the players are used as scapegoats when essentially all they ever want is something new.

I know a lot of people were complaining for a new HD right around the time the server went to Europe. Even I was. It was a suggestion from many players to change the HD to clientside because of getting hit from such a far range. It was tested in several spots as far as I know. But i guess you're right on that somewhat that the players would just agree for anything. But from the several CTF's i hosted on Clientside HD (when it was a droppable, and the server was serverside hd), nobody complained o.O. MoD change was terrible, true, but only because of the short time limit. UN relies on polls and look how terrible that server came out to be. You can't sit peacefully in towncenter without getting blown up by 1000 NPCW's

Haha how condescending, you're acting as though I'm unaware of what goes on and I'm unaware of how Master Storm acts. What you said is really not true. I guess for the developers you'll have to ask them personally as I'm not going to go naming names, but you're talking in an ideal sense instead of the actual reality. I don't see how posting on a forum is not better than speaking to Master Storm directly to receive nothing from speaking to him. In fact, posting on this forum has made him get off his ass quite a lot of times, where simple discussions with him have not, well, unless you're threatening him.

Well he's been supposedly reading this thread and gathering down the ideas. Will he act? I don't know I gave him a few ideas which we discussed but in the end wasn't right.


@GTA Idea: If anyone wanted to covert thousands of levels in all this time lol. Seems like a pain.

@Kill: Blobz wins most of the spar tourneys/monthly spar tourneys on Unholy Nation. It's ridiculous and many people complain because he lags 10 times worse than any Classic person you've seen. It's just reality that the lagger will dominate Graal sparring.

[xnervNATx]

Originally Posted by MysticX2X

@Kill: Blobz wins most of the spar tourneys/monthly spar tourneys on Unholy Nation. It's ridiculous and many people complain because he lags 10 times worse than any Classic person you've seen. It's just reality that the lagger will dominate Graal sparring.

i kinda agree on that , even tought i lagged once as bad as blobz i got kicked , but i was vs meryl(if you know her you know what i meant) but both didnt get kick.

[Ares]

Originally Posted by MysticX2X

@Kill: Blobz wins most of the spar tourneys/monthly spar tourneys on Unholy Nation. It's ridiculous and many people complain because he lags 10 times worse than any Classic person you've seen. It's just reality that the lagger will dominate Graal sparring.

uhhhhh he's won what, 2 utc's in the past 2 years? his lag doesn't dominate graal sparring at all, just lil scrubs who have no idea what they're doing

[xnervNATx]

Originally Posted by Ares

uhhhhh he's won what, 2 utc's in the past 2 years? his lag doesn't dominate graal sparring at all, just lil scrubs who have no idea what they're doing

lol@ lil scrubs.
anyway , ares your online like.....some hours a day or not even one hour , why would you talk statistics when you dont know ****. blobz has been tagteam champ for over some weeks now.

[MysticX2X]

Originally Posted by Ares

uhhhhh he's won what, 2 utc's in the past 2 years? his lag doesn't dominate graal sparring at all, just lil scrubs who have no idea what they're doing

I've seen him win the past 2 ttutcs. I've seen him win 3 utc's in the past few months. I've seen him win many freeze tag doubles. I've seen him win many MST's/TTMST's. Fact is, he wins a majority of his spars with no skill at all. Yeah, he's beatable. I beat him a couple times in the past before....

Anyway, we're straying from Classic.