a new start

[-Ramirez-]

Originally Posted by Oni

[rather selfish view]

If you had experienced what Classic had in the past, you wouldn't be saying all of what you just did, and would understand why people want it back. Despite being generally limited due to all being designed for use without the benefits that an NPC Server provides, it was a lot of great content. It doesn't need to have completely updated functionality and appearance to be comparable to other servers.

[salesman]

If you're developing to make people "in the past" happy, at most you will regain a few lost players...if you start looking for what new players might like, you could attract fresh ones.

I know that's not what you guys want though, and it would really defeat the purpose of it being "Classic"

[-Ramirez-]

Originally Posted by salesman

If you're developing to make people "in the past" happy, at most you will regain a few lost players...if you start looking for what new players might like, you could attract fresh ones.

You're assuming that the old stuff won't be the slightest bit appealing to people who didn't get to experience it in its pristine state, which just isn't true. The only problem is that the vast majority of it has yet to be rebuilt so that the newcomers CAN see what it was like. There's absolutely nothing wrong with wanting what was on the server back, and nothing wrong with striving to restore it, it's just that it's not happening.

I honestly don't have a clue what the current developers' goals are, what they're working on, or all of what's currently done. From what I do know, however, what's been getting released lately is not what focus should be on if the intent is to get back the old content.

[Evil_Trunks]

Who killed Classic? In short, Master Storm did. By deciding on a full redo instead of adapting the current content, the server was lost forever and is now dead. The long explanation is that Stefan killed it by appointing Master Storm as manager instead of the next-in-line, Ramirez.

[MysticX2X]

Originally Posted by -Ramirez-

If you had experienced what Classic had in the past, you wouldn't be saying all of what you just did, and would understand why people want it back. Despite being generally limited due to all being designed for use without the benefits that an NPC Server provides, it was a lot of great content. It doesn't need to have completely updated functionality and appearance to be comparable to other servers.

Graal in general was back then and everyone would love to see Graal to back to the way it was years ago and beyond. Every server has lost a tremendous amount of activity in the recent years, and there's only the management of graal to blame. But that isn't necessarily the debate here.

With that aside, I actually think It's better to make changes to attract new players tbh instead of the old players who won't accept the server anymore and will only live in their nostalgia. The content won't bring back the server to it's famous glory it had before (mind you i never payed attention to Classic in the past years but going off the opinions) ago since the community is really what makes any server very enjoyable. The recent updates Classic made was to attract old players and it failed, terribly.

[-Ramirez-]

Originally Posted by MysticX2X

I actually think It's better to make changes to attract new players

Nobody is suggesting that changes shouldn't be made, but you have to realize that restoring old content, at the moment, is just as much of a change as adding anything new. Perhaps you should be more clear on what you're trying to communicate.

old players who won't accept the server anymore

It's not about acceptance, it's about what's appealing, and the old data was certainly that. The current isn't, to the majority of people who comment on it.

and will only live in their nostalgia

It's not as if people are "stuck" in the past, it's that the past was better than anything implemented since then, so why not use it?

The content won't bring back the server to it's famous glory it had before since the community is really what makes any server very enjoyable.

Among other things that've been permanently changed, this is absolutely true. However, since people are still playing and still developing, decisions still need to be made.

The recent updates Classic made was to attract old players and it failed, terribly.

I find it interesting that you realize this, yet you suggest that wanting the old content is somehow a negative thing.